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If yes can you tell me where in the bible says that is uncahnged state. And if he is how come he can be sorry or feel sorrow , or any other feelings he expresses?

If he is not can you tell me how did you figure that part or where in hte bible it says No?

2006-07-24 09:11:52 · 12 answers · asked by PicassoInActions 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

this is to clearify the Question

If God is the immutable God, as interpreted from Classical Christian Tradition, a God who remains unalterable, what is the point of prayer? Does prayer, or any of our actions in the world for that matter, have any effect on God? Can we move God? Is God simply a static Being? Is prayer of use if God is absolutely immutable? Does God respond to prayer or to our actions in the world?

2006-07-24 09:14:51 · update #1

Some ppl telling me that GOD has personality... Well having personality contradicts immutable state. So if god decide to change heaven in hell one day using his personality that what will be place for Christians? For Christians to justify to go to heaven they have to be 100% sure that GOD will never change his mind but since god has personality how's that possible?

2006-07-24 09:27:29 · update #2

And if he is immutable than his law's are immutable aslo so where the fullfilment of perofcies are comming from?
He gave the law once it stay immutable.
Isn't convinient for Christain to concider thier GOD immutable but his law's are not?

2006-07-24 09:34:54 · update #3

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The bible beaters will likely give you a specific answer to your question, but you have to remember that their text is just vague enough to allow then to "guess" with references.

To be unchangeable would infer that one is finite. But since God is not a finite being (in space or time), he could not be immutable ... despite what the bible says. A contradiction in the Bible? "Lions, Tigers and Bears. Oh My!" No shocker there.

When it comes time to award the points, give it to the bible beater that admits that some questions simply can't be answered.

2006-07-24 09:29:30 · answer #1 · answered by linkus86 7 · 0 0

Malachi 3:6 Tells us that Jehovah God (the God of the bible, psalms 83:18) has not changed, but he has a personality that is predominantly love. It tells us that in 1jonh 4:8. the rest of his qualities are seen through creation ie his sense of humour etc (romans 1:20). We are made in Gods image (genesis 1:26), so hasn't changed but can feel sorrow etc much the same as a kind, loving person that you could say that about i.e.(he has't changed a bit).
I hope that this helps.

It is impossible for God to lie(hebrews 6:18).
Dueteronomy 32:4 tells us that he is faithful, perfect, just, rightous and upright. A personaility with those attributes would not mislead you, they would honour their promises.
Gods original purpose was for man to live forever on earth, Adam threw that away and gave us sin so that we now die(romans 5:12).Jesus bought that life back for us as a corresponding ransom (1 timothy 2:6).
As we know that God doesn't change his purposes etc, would it be fair to say that his purpose would still be for man to live on the Earth forever?
God doesn't break promises, man is the one that does that.

God is a person thats personality and purposes don't change.
That doesn't mean that he can't adapt to situations. He is a highly intelligent and powerful being.

2006-07-24 09:24:14 · answer #2 · answered by kaz1 3 · 1 0

If God is immutable then God is a finite being. Unless of course you're saying God only makes the decision to be immutable because God has the infinite ability to change itself infinitely.

Who is this God person, anyway?

2006-07-24 09:20:04 · answer #3 · answered by kuhlka 2 · 0 0

You are confusing your terms.
Yes, the Bible does say God is immutable--the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. Which does not mean He does not think and feel--though not the same way people do. It means that He is Who He is, always. WHO He is does not change.
So you never have to worry that He's going to think or feel differently than he has, or does, or will in the future.
Where in the Bible does it say that? In His name--The Great I Am.

2006-07-24 09:22:00 · answer #4 · answered by kaththea s 6 · 0 0

God is unchanging in that His character does not change and His desires for us do not change.

The God of Creation is very much a feeling, loving, emotional God; examples are found in every story in the Bible. That IS His nature.

Read the book if you want the answers.

2006-07-24 09:28:02 · answer #5 · answered by steve 4 · 1 0

I have aways found the idea of an immutable deity unappealing. This concept of deity results in a static, distance and unmovable entity.

I much prefer to view Deity as dynamic, changing, and growing. In this way I can participate in the ongoing creation of the universe (all be it in a very small way). This concept allows deity to genuinely participate in the universe and to be concerned with all aspects of the universe, including me.

2006-07-24 09:24:56 · answer #6 · answered by Pablito 5 · 0 0

Hebrews 6:17 refers to the unchanging state of God's will for mankind.

In response to how God can be sorrowful at one moment, and have other emotions at other times,...

God's existance is not bound to time. In Revalations 1, 21, and 22, God repeatedly says "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end." At no point did he say "I was the beginning and I will be the end."

I believe that God exists outside the passage of time. The spiritual "dimension" of existence occupies what we know as "eternity." Eternity is not a never-ending period of time, but rather the total absence of time. There is no temporal separation between events.

Therefore, in spiritual terms, God is simultaneously angry at sin, in love with his children, and in mourning for those that are lost. This is not a change from one emotional state to another, but a complete and perfectly rounded emotional response to all that is happening.

This theory explains many long-standing questions, such as 1) "If God created everything, who created God?", and 2) "If Jesus is God, why was he born so late in history?"

1) If God created everything, then he created time, too. There simply was no "before" in relation to God.

2) Jesus exists in the spiritual dimension, and is likewise, not bound to time. He has existed from "before" the beginning. That's why in Genesis, God frequently referred to himself as "we." He was only "born" as a method of entrance into they physical dimension, but that wasn't the beginning of his existence. And the timing of that event was perfectly according to God's will.

2006-07-24 09:38:36 · answer #7 · answered by Privratnik 5 · 0 0

The point of prayer is to communicate with the Lord. It is how you build a relationship with Him. The closer you become to Him, the greater the gifts you recieve through your obedience to Him and repentance of your sins when you fall short of His glory.
We are to repent of our sins every day. We are also NOT to Question God as to His ways for He is greater than we are.

2006-07-24 09:18:09 · answer #8 · answered by Carol M 5 · 0 0

God evolves

2006-07-24 09:30:43 · answer #9 · answered by slippped 7 · 0 0

God has feelings, you don't know how much people hurt His feelings when they sin, but God rebukes them just as a parent would rebuke a child.

2006-07-24 09:16:05 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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