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I posted a question about why people do not believe in women preachers and they all cited 1Timothy. How do you explain this or reconcile this with allowing or being a female preacher? I like very much having a female pastor and now I am confused about (A.) Whether it is actually right? (B.) If I want to be a part of something that puts women in such a submissive role?

2006-07-24 07:44:32 · 6 answers · asked by tryingtolearnsomething 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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I seriously doubt your God cares who's teaching you, as long as they're teaching what your religion is about. Remember, the bible was written by men, even if it had a god's hand in it, the authors were still free to write what they would. There are many chovanistic things in the bible. You just need the common sense to tell the difference between what a man wrote and the big picture that your god was trying to get across. At least that's what I think.

2006-07-24 07:51:07 · answer #1 · answered by kaiticometrue 3 · 1 0

This is a serious subject, and as a Christian woman, a leader, and a teacher, I'm not sure I have the answer for you. You can do a lot of research and read all sides of the argument (I doubt you will find much helpful information in this forum, though).

I grew up in a tradition that does not ordain women as "pastors," but has not always been consistent in how they deal with the passages they cite in Scripture. One passage that is often pointed to is I Corinthians 14:34 where it says that women are to "remain silent" and "in submission" within the church body. If that is as it has been used, why then are women allowed to teach in capacities other than preaching within the church? This seems inconsistent to me. Some say that in that passage the word "woman" should be translated "wife" (which it is in other places in Scripture), and refers to wives not usurping their husband's authority within the church body. That makes a little more sense to me.

I know throughout history God has greatly used women pastors, especially in planting churches and as missionary preachers. Some argue that God used them because they were all that was available and that he can use evil men too, which He can, so the fact that these women were used by God is not evidence that they were doing the right thing. You can keep going with the arguments for hours because there are many women who were used by God in Scripture and Jesus stepped outside the culture in how he viewed and interacted with women, yet all this can also be explained away.

So what to do? I want to be a woman of God and to please Him, whether or not that fits in well with my culture. Does that mean I should step down from teaching and leading within the church? Whom do I believe? What a relief to know that the Holy Spirit "will guide you in all truth" (John 16:13). Your relationship with Christ is very personal. Go to Him and ask Him to guide you and show you what you should do. Ask Him to reveal whether or not this woman is really a woman of God and if you should continue to follow her teaching. If you walk daily with the Lord, He will show you the right path. I ask God to guide me and to protect me and to show me if I am ever walking outside of His will. So far, He has given me great peace about teaching and leading within the church. And it is quite possible that He will confirm that you are in exactly the church body that He desires for you, but, if instead, you should find yourself disquieted and in turmoil after seeking God's wisdom, don't hesitate to respond to the prompting of the Holy Spirit.

2006-07-24 08:25:24 · answer #2 · answered by happygirl 6 · 0 0

I don't think it puts women in a submissive role to listen to the pastor. The women have their purpose for serving God just like the pastor, although in different areas.

2006-07-24 07:52:34 · answer #3 · answered by fudd_son 1 · 0 0

Most protestant xtian religions allow female pastors. I guess they felt that some of the bible is just plain dumb. IMO, if you want to believe in God, or even the bible, fine - thats you're call...but why do you need a Church to do so?

2006-07-24 07:56:19 · answer #4 · answered by Ann Tykreist 3 · 0 0

It just doesn't add up, does it?

2006-07-24 07:47:54 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

In a few places of the Bible, we find that the Apostle Paul said some things that were not inspired by God (see 1 Corinthians 11:3-10 and 1 Timothy 2:12-15). Although Paul was a Christian who was mightily used by God, we have to keep in mind that he was yet an imperfect human (as we all are) and we must be able to discern man’s flawed views from God’s word.

Adam was created before Eve but that doesn’t mean he was superior to Eve. Also, Adam was just as deceived as Eve and that’s why he sinned. Saying that Adam was not deceived, that Adam did not sin and that women would be saved by childbearing (see 1 Timothy 2:11-15) is telling obvious lies. Paul implied that because Adam was created first it meant he was superior to Eve and used this ridiculous theory to support his forbidding of women from teaching men. No one has any right to forbid an anointed woman of God from doing what she has been called by God to do.

In Christ, men and women are equal (Galatians 3:28). Both female and male believers in Christ are kings and priests unto God (Revelation 1:6) and God calls Christian women and men to ALL offices of ministry within the Church.

In 1 Timothy 2:12, Paul said that he (not God) forbade women to teach men. In the Bible we see that God called many women to be leaders and teachers of men, women and children: prophets (Miriam, Deborah, Huldah, Isaiah’s wife, Philipp’s four daughters), military leader and judge (Deborah), disciples (Mary, Martha, Joanna, Mary Magdalene, Susanna, and “many more”), deacon (Priscilla), and church leader (Lydia).

Furthermore, in Acts 2:17-18 it says:

And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:

In the Church, God calls many Christian women to be apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors (or “shepherds”) and teachers of men, women and children.

In Ephesians 5:22, Paul instructs wives to submit to their husbands, however in the verse before he said that ALL Christians (both male and female) should equally submit themselves to one another:

Ephesians 5:21
Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.

Both husband and wife must respectfully submit to each other. Neither is superior nor the head of the other.

In Ephesians 5:25, Paul instructs husbands to love their wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it.

It is common sense that if the husband isn’t loving and righteous, the wife should not submit to him because as Christians, we are to obey God and not men.

On 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, it is understood that men should also stay silent while the preacher whether female or male is preaching, and if they missed or didn’t understand something, they should wait until later to ask their wives or a fellow brother or sister in Christ or do their own study. The main lesson is to not interrupt the service.

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2016-01-31 10:52:51 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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