Atheists/Evolutionists.... Can you answer?...?

Question

Please respond....Where did the original matter (the building blocks of life) come from? To say "it was always there" is not a satisfactory answer.That your theory cannot answer that, in my mind, kills it right there. But wait, there's more!When you look at the way our bodies work, that we are just the right distance from the sun not to freeze or burn up, that we have food provided all around us, that water nourishes life, that we have a thin protective layer around the earth that sustains our life, that we have a heart and spirit, and can reason, speak and have profound relationships - doesn't that speak to a wonderful, loving, creative designer? Scientists have calculated that the chance of all the things we know happening on their own is over 1,000,000,000 to one You wouldn't dream of taking a bet like that.The evolution/creation argument is a spiritual battle - because if you believe in Creation, you have to have believe in a creator, and many cannot break down thier pride to do so

Answer 1

You forget - science is the new religion! This is simply a competition of idealogies, it has nothing to do with reason.

It is a matter of human pride - that we can discover the answers to every question.

Answer 2

1. Regarding the origins of "the original matter," we simply do not know. However, just because something is unkown does not mean that it is unkowable. Two hundred years ago people, including young mothers, died mysteriously all the time. It wasn't until the invention of the microscope and the discovery of infection that this daily tragedy was understood.

Currently we do not have the knowledge base or technology to answer this question. But, I stress, this doesn't mean that we will never have the answer to this question. It is a common misconception on the part of the faithful to believe that science has claimed to have "all the answers." That's simply not true. Science is a journey, fraught with dead-ends and cul-de-sacs that hopes to arrive at the truth *someday*. Having all the answers has always been the realm of the faithful. Except when they were wrong about the heliocentric nature of our solar-system. And when Pope John Paul II accepted evolution. And whatever the next big concession will be.

What science claims, that faith finds so difficult to admit is that there is no shame in admitting "I don't know."

2. Doesn't the Earth seem like it must have been made for us? Absolutely not. We evolved to adapt to the Earth, not the other way around.

There are rats in the Waldorf Astoria. This is because the hotel is warm in the winter, cool in the summer, has ample sources of water, and a tremendous amount of food just laying around waiting to be eaten. But you wouldn't assume that the Waldorf was built for the rats. It's the same thing.

Is it a 1:1,000,000,000 chance that there would be a planet capable of supporting life? Absolutely. But when you think about the vastness of the universe 1:1,000,000,000 becomes a certainty. Given enough trials you will eventually flip ten heads in a row. This is the same thing.

I'm sorry that you need "reason" behind everything. I feel that this is because of fear. To realize the random chance which allowed life to thrive on this rock makes life even more wondrous. I wish you could see it the way that we do.

Answer 3

Well, the idea of evolution - started by Darwin in Origin of Species and expanded on by Steven J. Gould, doesn't cover the whole "where the original building blocks" came from. But astrophysicists have come up with an answer for that, and that answer's in the form of a theory, which is the closest thing science ever gets to calling something a fact (even gravity's a theory):
The universe came about during a big bang - when the universe "evolved from a tremendously dense, hot space" and started expanding. Basically, it got so hot and dense that it exploded, and all the matter slammed outwards. From that matter came the material that made earth and the sun.
In that matter were amino acids, or the building blocks of life. With water and heat, eventually they began to combine with each other in ways that came together to form what we call life.
If we weren't the correct distance from the sun, and we didn't have food, etc, we wouldn't be here and able to ask and answer these questions. Believe me, I'm just as grateful for it as you are :) - but that doesn't necessarily tell us, to scientists, that God put us here.
I'd like to share what my mother used to tell me about evolution. We're very Christian, and when I asked her about how we came to evolve, she said that "One day, or in a gradual process, God reached down and touched us, giving us souls and the power to know right from wrong." You can believe in both evolution and a Creator. The first is a matter of science (human) and the second is a matter of faith (spiritual). Atheisism isn't a necessary condition for evolution.
I hope this helps you understand where the science comes from. If not, I hope it sheds some light on how people think about these things in a respectful, kind way, since I don't mean to offend or demean - these debates get so heated some times that I feel it's important to say that. God bless.

Answer 4

What 'scientists' calculated the odds? The thing about probability is that the dice have to land somewhere. If you take a nice six sided dice and roll it once if it lands on a number you've beaten the five to one odds against that number coming up. Keep rolling over and over the chain of numbers or corners and verteces you get keeps getting more and more improbable, that doesn't mean you've dreamed up the numbers you've rolled.

Pride? Atheists do not fancy themselves a courtiers to cosmic kings in the manner of the religious, we are here, infinitesimal specks in an essentially infinite universe, we live for a while then we die, outside of our own circle of aquaintances we are no more important than a stone or a leaf or an atom of hydrogen jittering in the void between the galaxies.

The original matter for 'life' can still be found in comets and carbonacious asteroids. Complex organic molecules that first agglomerated in the swirl of stardust that formed our star system.

I wonder how old you are if you think the human body is beautifuly designed? Our knees are a shoddy piece of work, the weight is on the outside of the joint, not the center where it should be. It's a compromise between our upright posture and the need to push a newborns head through the opening in a womans pelvis. It is ultimately ruinous to our ability to walk comfortably.

The design of our eyes isn't just bad it's comicaly bad. If you were designing a biological camera would you put the nerves and blood supply for the light sensing cells between the photoreceptors and the lens where they block light? No, but that's how all vertibrate eyes are arrainged, it's a holdover from a primitive ancestor with barely functioning light sensing appendages on the sides of it's head. The snails in your garden have more sensibly designed eyes than we do.

You live a sheltered lif if you really think the world is a kind place for humans. There is enough food grown to feed all the people in the world, and yet people starve. People living in developing countries are cruelly used by NATURAL parasites that cause agonizing pain, debilitating disieses and death for untold millions.

FYI evolution only concerns organisms with hereditary mechanisms, if you want to talk about the origins of early life you need to learn about organic chemistry.

People aren't the only creatures who can reason, and some of us apparantly can't lay aside self interested conceits long enough to do that well.

Biological evolution does NOT rule out religious faith. It destroys the childish creation myth of the Isrealites. It debunks the idea of [a] god/s that has/have to keep sticking it's/their fingers into the universe to keep things moving in the right direction. None of which is central to the true tenants of faith, only the conceits reguarding how important humans are in the grand scheme. You're supposed to be humble anyway, so why does having proof of your insubstantiality bother you?

Answer 5

well the original "building blocks" of life, along with most other matter came from exploding stars. As for the earth being just the right distance from the sun etc, remember 1) the earth was not always inhabitable, 2) when the sun becomes a red giant, there will be no more earth.

Just because we don't have the answers to all of the questions around us does not give them a spiritual significance. We learn as a species, as we go along. When did we learn that the universe did not revolve around the earth? When did we stop worshiping the sun god, or god of water, or human sacrifice?

Our knowledge expands all the time. We don't even know if this is the only universe or if there are billions of them. I think that there are, billions on billions of universes, like galaxies, like stars in those galaxies.

Humans are so full of ourselves that the entire universe is nothing without humans.

Answer 6

Bless your little ignorant cotton socks...

Scientists have calculated that it is an absolutely far higher number than that for the very first electrical discharge to have split base elements to form basic ameno acids...factored into this there was the probability that all the right chemicals and elements were there in the right proportion at the right time the improbability was so massive they are satisfied that there is virtually no chance that life can exist on any other planet...

However, they also state, that once that improbable thing happened (which they have created in experients so they know that it was the very first building block of life), then given the 3 BILLION years life has provenly been evolving from since this first accident in chemistry, the probability of life being created is 1..ie. guarenteed.

Ironically, questions like this that actually lend weight to the idea that evolution (at least the case of the asker) didn't happen...

Answer 7

What? Fossils are data for evolution, evolution does no longer clarify fossils. hardship-free concepts of degradation and geology do. we've reason to trust fossils are a organic incidence, in that all of us understand the way it may take position obviously, we haven't any reason to imagine god purely placed them there. So no longer purely does this haven't to any extent further something to do with evolution besides the undeniable fact that the answer is not any anyhow.

Answer 8

You say the chances are a billion to one. Very true. Do you know how many stars are just in the Milky Way galaxy?

100 billion. That means, even with your odds, there may be 100 planets with intelligent life in our galaxy. (Oops)

And there are 100 billion galaxies(Double oops)

(By the way, where did God come from? Was he/she/it always here? I thought that didn't make sense.)

Answer 9

You can't answer who made 'God' other than saying "God always was."

That same answer can apply to the building blocks of life: "The cosmos always was."

The Drake equation shows that life in the universe is not as rare as many people think.

http://www.pbs.org/lifebeyondearth/listening/drake.html

Answer 10

Yep, you got us. The universe was in fact created.

The only thing is, Satan is the real creator of the universe, who has given YHWH free will to try to trick humans into following him, and everything in the Bible is part of an elaborate deception to fool you.

Prove me wrong.