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Murder is wrong... is abortion murder? I'm christian. Give me a "for instance"...

2006-07-23 09:03:03 · 44 answers · asked by Samantha S 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Why or why not is it wrong.

2006-07-23 09:07:50 · update #1

44 answers

How would you respond in these situations?

1. A preacher and his wife are very, very poor. They already have 14 kids. Now she finds out she’s pregnant with the 15th. They’re living in tremendous poverty. Considering their poverty and the excessive world population, would you consider recommending she get an abortion?

2. The father is sick with sniffles, the mother has TB. Of their four children, the first is blind, the second has died, the third is deaf, the fourth has TB. She finds she’s pregnant again. Given this extreme situation, would you consider recommending abortion?

3. A white man raped a 13-year-old black girl and she’s now pregnant. If you were her parents, would you consider recommending abortion?

4. A teenage girl is pregnant. She’s not married. Her fiancé is not the father of the baby, and he’s upset. Would you recommend abortion?

In the first case, you would have killed John Wesley, one of the great evangelists in the 19th century. In the second case, you would have killed Beethoven. In the third case, you would have killed Ethel Waters, the great black gospel singer. If you said yes to the fourth case, you would have declared the murder of Jesus Christ!

God is the author of life, and He has givenevery single individual supreme value. Each life—whether inside or outside the womb—should therefore be valued by us. God knows the plans He has for each individual and has written in His book all the days ordained for us before one of them came to be. When we presume to know better than God who should be given life, we are putting ourselves in the place of God and are guilty of idolatry.

2006-07-23 09:11:40 · answer #1 · answered by Tom C 3 · 4 1

Abortion is wrong. Perhaps you could consider some of them murder.

One question is when does it become murder? Should we have a murder investigation every time an embryo doesn't hold in the womb? Or it is only when the mother does something to try to remove the child?

Many pro-life ask the question "when does life begin". The answer is that it doesn't. Life doesn't begin. In order for life to begin, it has to be dead first. Sperm isn't dead. Neither is the egg. Life continues. The majority of life dies naturally.

However that isn't the issue surrounding abortion. The problem is how do you stop it?
Will simply making it illegal stop it? No. More likely it will cause suicide after suicide of the adult. In the process you will decrease the number of people that want to get rid of a child, because they will die or become infertile frequently.

If you make abortion illegal, what is stopping the mother from crushing up and injecting the fetus with simple drugs like aspirin. That could cause miscarriage easily.

You can't stop abortion my laws. You have to create a social situation where a mother can guarantee that a child will be taken care of. Conservatives aren't specifically against this, they are just against any care that could lead to this situation as their belief that anyone who gets something for nothing is worthless.

We are socially in a situation that legal or illegal abortion will never be stopped.

2006-07-26 11:15:40 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

It's not really a question of murder, but of God's will. Is it God's will that a child be extinguished before it is born? The fact that the answer has to be yes or no proves that laws against murder do not apply. Here is what I know and what I think:

I know that God can awesome things through children who were through things like a rape or an abusive relationship. I have a friend whose wife was raped and they are raising that child as if it were fathered by him. They have no less love, because they understand that his or not, being given the opportunity to a raise a child is a gift from God any way you slice it. It's not about what I think is right or wrong, it is only about God's will, desires, and his power to effect the human condition. God didn't desire she be raped, but he did desire them to raise that child to be a powerful voice for the work of the Lord, and their daughter already is.

I think that yes, it is a sin. I stop short of calling it murder, but what it is is a person exacting their decision on another person for selfish reasons, and that is never right. There are so many options these days that allows that child to grow in a happy home and live a fulfilling life, and not mom or dad has a true right to determine that child's life's outcome. The only reason mom has a right to decide abortion or no is that it is her body, but making that decision to cancel out the life of her unborn is a purely selfish act in almost every situation. The one exception is this: the birth will chance or absolutely cause the death of a wife/mother. In this instance, the husband is now the one who is supposed to decide, and he should choose the wife because that is his first charge as the husband. Just as the captain of a ship chooses the ship over the crew, a husband should choose his wife, and vice versa, over the child.

2006-07-23 09:29:36 · answer #3 · answered by Choose Life 3 · 0 0

Proverbs 6:16-17 "God hates... hands that shed innocent blood." How can any be more innocent than the unborn?

Exodus 21:22-24 If men fight and strike a pregnant woman and hurts or kills the unborn, the penalty (under the Law of Moses) was to be "an eye for an eye". Here is a penalty for killing the unborn.

At what point does the unborn become a person with a soul? James 2:26 says, "...the body without the spirit is dead..." As long as the body, no matter how small, is alive (growing, moving, etc.) it has a spirit (soul).

According to Jeremiah 1:5, a person can be known (by God) even before they are born.

A person is a person, no matter how small. Killing a person is murder.

2006-07-23 10:07:04 · answer #4 · answered by JoeBama 7 · 0 0

It's an embryo and not a person. There is no murder as the embryo couldn't survive on its own until at least 24 weeks.
When you kill a pregnant woman you're NOT charged with double homicide.

I personally (but I would never force my views on others, I'm pro-choice all the way) would only abort under these circumstances:
a) rape
b) known illness of embryo which would lead to a life of pain and sorrow, both for the child and its family.
c) danger to the life of mother because of pregnancy

If my daughter/son's partner were pregnant I would support her NO MATTER WHAT the decision !

To the person right above my comment: you're a self-righteous idiot. In two of the cases the world perhaps would have been a better place without the child (I blame religion for many of society's faults) and I'm certain that one could find many examples where abortion would have been a better choice. CHOICE !!!!

2006-07-23 09:11:51 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I"m Christian too. For instance you were raped... would you want to keep a strangers baby? But what if it's an accident from a lover even if you're younger? Older? If i was raped I'd get rid of it... it'd be a constant reminder or that tramatizing event. But if you love someone, no matter what age you are I believe you should keep it. However, it's all personal choice. But I suppose abortion isn't technically murder b/c the baby isn't completely formed in the trimester that abortion is legal. But it's still a human w/ a soul.

2006-07-23 09:07:21 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Another word for conception is procreation. Pregnancy is the natural result of sex between a man and woman. In this way, we are working with God to create another human; this is one of the ways in which we share his divine nature. You, and your opposite gendered partner and God have created another human.

At 8 weeks old, all of the normal characteristics can be seen in the baby, and it has a hear beat shortly after that. Since it has it's own heart beat, is it just another piece of usless tissue? It is a baby, and it is wrong to kill it.

Women want choices, but they are too stupid to recognize all of the choices that were made before the conception of the child.

you choose who to have sex with.
you choose to marry the father or not.
you choose to use contraception or not.
you choose where and when to have sex.
you choose which position you want.
and there are many other choices that are made before conception; murder of a premature child should not be an option.

Other things that are not often mentioned is the psychological trauma that women suffer after the abortion. Not to mention the hormonal and emotional swings. You don't often hear about the physical harm that it does to the woman either.

My sister had a couple of abortions that she will never forget. Her reproductive organs were so damaged that when she got married and wanted children, it was impossible. In fact, she had to have a hysterectomy at an early age. The damage could not be reversed, and it caused her to have cancer. The health risk of having an abortion is greater than the problems of giving birth to a child who is thr product of rape.

The laws on this are backward. Abortion in a clinic is legal, but if a person causes an accident that kills a woman and her unborn child, he will face two charges of murder. What makes the difference? In this case, the government wants it both ways. They recognize that the unborn child is a living being and was capable of being murdered; but not so in a doctor's office.

2006-07-23 09:28:21 · answer #7 · answered by Marty 4 · 0 0

Thou shalt not kill. kids are the most amazing gift from god we could ever be blessed with. It all depends on what you believe in.For instance if a woman or young girl is raped and becomes pregnant then they have to consider if they can love that child without it being a constant reminder of what happened to them. Alot of woman would abort that child. who is to say if it is right or wrong. Only god can truly judge you. Iam one of the few Christan's on the fence about this. I do not have an opinion on weather it is right or wrong.
If you follow the bible then yes it is according to the ten commandments, however god will forgive you is you ask. Now those that cast judgment on anyone who does that will have a harsher judgment by god. Every woman has the right to decide what she does. Then they have the moral issue that will become a bigger battle for them. Then as they grow older the guilt will sent in and if they are not careful it will eat them alive. So i hope that helped a little with your question. It all boils down to what is in a woman's soul and if they can live with their self once the child is gone. What values were instilled in them when they were growing up and the reason behind the abortion. If it is from a rape or if they just were not careful during sex.

2006-07-23 09:20:07 · answer #8 · answered by aenease5974 2 · 0 0

It is only a body, the body is just a vehicle for the human experience, it's the spirit that is real, and it will never die. The spirit does not enter the body until the body leaves the womb and takes it's first breath, the body survives off the system of the mother for the 9 months it's in the womb. So with that info I just shared with you and the info the world believes happens, you now have something to work from. I personally believe there is no such thing as right or wrong, because as spirits everything is just experience. This life is not the true reality it's only a game.

2006-07-23 09:16:38 · answer #9 · answered by commonxsense2005 3 · 0 0

Well, let's look at it like this.A girl is raped,or sexually abused by a relative and ends up pregnant.That's a pretty cruel thing to make a person go through even more trauma than she's all ready been through.We are talking years of therapy,here.Adoption is all fine and good, but she's never going to forget what happened to her.Pregnancy under the best circumstances is stressful enough!People literally have had full breakdown from this kind of trauma,and some NEVER recover from it.
Or here's another scenario: a woman finds out she's pregnant by accident and is completely unable to emotionally and financially handle raising a child, and she goes on to have that child, resents and blames that child for the poverty they live in and the responsibilities she's forced to cope with and takes out her anger on that child.You should check out the child abuse and neglect statistics.It's enough to make any ones blood turn cold.And just as a side note,over 90% of all mass murderers,serial killers and general sociopaths report being abused as children.Would you like to turn someone like that loose on society,knowing it could be prevented?
The adoption system is all fine and good.But the children who are in demand are INFANTS, not older children.Thousands of children linger in foster care with no hope of an adoptive family because all people want are perfect,healthy babies.So yeah, I personally am in favor of abortion.I believe my reasons for that opinion were just stated.Murder no.Call it the lesser of 2 evils.

2006-07-23 09:24:55 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Abortion is murder, you are killing a life (the fetus IS alive at the MOMENT of conception). Abortion is the must DISGUSTING thing ever.

1) why should we punish the child, it was NOT the child's fault it was born
2) With sex comes responsibilities, and if you're going to engage, you BETTER be willing to pay (whether it means adoption, giving up your life for theirs, what ever the consequence is- you better be ready.)
3) From the moment of conception it has its own DNA coding, therefore it's tech. not the "women's body", the only thing the women is doing is housing and feeding it.
4) The two participating had the choice whether or not they were ready to deal with the consequences so why give them more choices if they're already making bad ones?
5) rape, I sympathise greatly, but why punish the child? it's not the child's fault, yes it is a HUGE burden and COSNTANT reminder, but still- from a political perspective it's all or nothing, if it were up to me those who were raped (politically) would have the choice (religion in there there would be no rape or abortion- but that's not life). If I were raped though I would definately keep the child though. But in politics it's all or nothing.
6) There is ALWAYS adoption- if you're willing to kill a child, why are you worried about its life in an adoption agency???
7) We are not God, we do not have the right to say who lives and who dies.
8) From the moment of conception it IS alive.(to be alive it has to fill 4 criterias, (1) metabolism, (2) growth, (3) reaction to stimuli, and (4) reproduction)
9) It's either pro-life or pro-death, not pro-choice because where is that child's choice? and the oppisite of life is death and that's what they are saying is good- the right to put a child to death- YAY!!! hah not!

I see NO plausible defense for this abomination at all.


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tjreamer- Christianity does NOT believe in predestination, sorry but God doesn't plan out our lives, He gives us options- and we decide whether we're with Him or Against Him...

2006-07-23 09:13:25 · answer #11 · answered by Aubrey 4 · 0 0

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