Atheists....come ON!!!!?

Question

Do u know What is the mobile phone made up of? Essentially 2 things: Oil and sand and a bit of (plastic:casing n silica:silicon chip)
Do you know a place where where we find lots of sand and oil??
Ok..let's say Arabia

Now what IF i say that one day I was walking in the desert of Arabia n i found this mobile phone in the desert..made through chance......"the sun was shining ...oil spewing from the ground and after millions n millions of years ...circuits formed one by one, the sand changed to silica......silica to the silicon chip and oil changed to the plastic casing through evolution".!!...

Can something be more stupid then this? Is this even a fairy tale?It's so darn stupid..cuz if u allow me to call human being a machine..its the most complex..the brain has more connections then atoms in this Universe.In a million years a mobile phone canot evolve from it's raw products:oil n sand.... what makes u think humans can????

leave aside the """Theory""" of evolution

Assalamalaikum
may peace, mercy and blessings of Allah (unique Arabic name for God) be on the viewers
thnx for reading

Answer 1

Read Darwin, then read your Bible, then read Darwin again. He was a Christian himself, you are fighting a paper tiger man.

Let it go... why do you even care?

Answer 2

Listen - you are embarrassing the rest of us. It is absolutely self-evident that atoms do have a tendency to form various organic molecules, some of which form in self-replicating patterns. ANY self replicating pattern will evolve into increasingly complex patterns that 'appear' to have an interest in preservation of that pattern.

The real question you are driving at (but will not realize for many, many years, if ever) is 'why does anything exist at all?'. Since something can never come from nothing, something has always existed. Next time, try some of these questions:

*Where did the laws that govern the universe come from?
*What is the universe expanding into?
*Where did the super dense matter that exploded to become the universe (big bang) come from?
*In an infinitude of possibilities, why do these particular laws of physics and set of atoms exist?
*Atoms assemble into meaningful composites, much like a jigsaw puzzle...but would you ever consider that the jigsaw puzzle pieces were not created for that purpose?

Please, before you decide to flaunt your appalling ignorance in front of non-believers, stop, and think: am I really smart enough to champion this cause? Am I well informed of both sides of the argument? As is, you are simple diluting the intelligence pool and making us all look like fools.

In the meantime, think of evolution as the study of HOW god made the world. For example, the bible says Allah created Adam and Eve from dirt. Could that not be a metaphor for evolution? Life arising from inorganic matter over billions of years?

Answer 3

By the way Darwin went to a religious school and was going to become a priest.

It works like this:
In the wee hours of earth (after about 1 bil years) the atmosphere was unstable and much different than earths is now. Lightning was flashing everywhere and quite a few strikes produced the simplest forms of organic substances. They are known as atcg's (adenine (A), thymine (T), cytosine (C), and guanine (G). ) these where easily mixable with earth’s original atmosphere and this has been tested true.

Eventually after pools of this stuff were made, lightning struck random pools until it struck one that made a self-replicating protein (not yet able to be called life for it does not adapt to its environment)

This self replicating protein was crude and did not replicate itself very well and made mistakes sometimes (when it copied itself through a random chemical reaction it did not always have all of the pieces to work and some proteins would work better and some wouldn’t work at all.)

Eventually the protein became complex enough to act a certain way when sunlight hit it. This still was not a living being because it did not need fuel to survive.

Eventually the original protein was so much slower at replicating itself than the randomly better protein that it couldn’t get a hold of the actg's and dissipated.

One of these random miscopies would build up a weird slime around itself by "accidentally" catching sticky particles and this slime would catch actg's allowing for this protein to catch enough actg's to replicate itself twice over.

Eventually one of these proteins becomes so complex that it can capture the actg's from another protein by breaking it in its slime layer and stealing the actg's. Thus the first life is formed. It needs other proteins as food, and is very much like simple DNA (deoxyribonucleic acid)

To do this type of thing is impossible with a cell phone.
Why I believe this even though the odds of it happening are slim, because if it didn’t happen we wouldn’t exist. Now this is not defying god. They can both co-exist. This could just be explaining how god worked his magic. Don’t stop believing what you do, I believe in random probability and you believe in a theistic stance, we are both in different thought but we don’t need to fight about it.

Good day and god bless.

Answer 4

Evolution is real, creationism is the fairytale. According to your Adam& Eve myth, they were formed from hand full of sand. How ludicris is that. And yes, Man is essentially an organic machine, just like man is an animal. I suppose you also believe that the Earth is flat, and the Moon is made of green cheese. Man, throw that book of fairytales(the Bible) away and learn to think. My religion of Asatru has a creation story, but that doesn't mean that evolotion is wrong. When it comes to science and my faith I side with science, because it has the evidence to back it up.

Answer 5

I agree with you. I do not believe in evolution. Only God can make a tree, flower, ocean, mountain, a human being with a complex brain. He created the heavens and the earth. Why some people can live and not believe there is a God is beyond me. Thank you and God bless.

Answer 6

that is the saddest excuse for an argument i have EVER heard in my life!!!!! cell phones are man made. people aren't. evolution can occur at the same time as god you know. doesn't have to be one or the other. people adapt to their surroundings. have you not realized that in the hottest places on earth is where black people live and are born? such as africa?! and you know why? because their dark skin helps them cope with the dark sun. thats called adaptation. kind of like evolution, only evolution occurs over expanse amounts of time. there is proof that things evolve. im not saying neccesarly that we evolved from monkeys, but that we probably have evloved somewhere down the line no matter how miniscule the change.

you can believe in god and evolution. its not against the rules of religion you know.

Answer 7

Unless someone out there has a cell phone that is capable of reproducing, this analogy is complete rubbish.

The only thing it demonstrates is that the asker forms his opinions on topics before he knows anything whatsoever about them. He should go back to grade school and actually read what evolution is before trying to proselytize to the masses about it.

Answer 8

Your logic is flawed. An item will not just randomly evolve. Reproduction is key in this, because evolution happens generation to generation as weaker traits are bred out of a population and strong traits are left in. A cell phone can not reproduce, therefore it is not subject to evolution.

Answer 9

You assume it's all random, it's not. You forgot the natural selection part. Even if you included that, evolution don't apply to non-living objects. Are cell phones alive? Can they reproduce? No.

You also assume that all atheists believe in evolution, that's not true. Many theists believe in evolution also.

You have no argument at all and this should be in the biology section.

Answer 10

"the brain has more connections then atoms in this Universe"

Being a neurologist, this made me giggle.

Think about that for a moment. perhaps you were on something when you wrote it... think of the sheer impossibility of that statement. Since each "connection" is made up of hundreds of thousands of atoms, how exactly can there be more connections in the brain than atoms anywhere?

Thats like saying theres more steel rivets in the brooklyn bridge than there are on the entire planet.

Answer 11

Excuse me... just thought you'd like to know... a mobile phone is not a living organism. Your absurd argument is a logical fallacy (flaw in thinking) known as the 'Straw Man Argument', a sub-category of the 'Red Herring'. You might want to look that up.