Can people lose their salvation? If so, give me scripture that proves it> :)?

Answer 1

Yes, there is only one thing that people can loose salvation over and that is proven in the Bible. It's called the un-forgiveable sin and its blasphemy against the Holy Ghost There are many scriptures in the bible Matthew 12:31-32
,Mark 3:29,Luke 12:10 . See if those work for you they should. Let me know something whenever e-mail and messenger kicks back in.

Answer 2

YES people can lose their salvation.

"Not one of you is worthy. Not one."

"Salvation" usually means you have been necking with inhuman alien spirits that you are convinced are the Father and the Holy Spirit -- you love them and are sure they will protect you forever.

How do you know these extra-terrestrial aliens love YOU? You don't. "The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom."

You sound like you are in the zombie trance of the freshly converted, convinced Jesus loves you. Jesus died an excruciating death, moaning that he'd been betrayed. What does he owe YOU? Be careful, you are on thin ice.

We know of only ONE soul that has gone to heaven with Jesus, the thief on the other cross who defended Jesus while he was mocked by another theif also being crucified. The "good" theif didn't ask for forgiveness, wasn't baptized, and knew that Jesus had absolutely no power at all as he was dying.

That's the one who made it to heaven, another one being crucified and who knew Jesus's torment was unjustified.

I rather doubt your cocksure certainty that you'll be in the skybox with your Savior "4ever" rises to this level. Better go back to the drawing board for a few years.

Answer 3

Yup,
Jude 5. I desire to remind you, though you were once for all fully informed, that He who saved a people out of Egypt, destroyed those who did not believe.

Matt. 24:13 He who endures to the end will be saved. (So, a persons final salvation is NOT determined at the moment he begins to put faith in Jesus.)

Phil. 2:12 As you have always obeyed, so now, not only in my presence but more so in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

Heb. 10:26,27 If we sin deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer rem,ains a sacrifice for sins, but a fearful prospect of judgment, and a fury of fire that will consume the adversaries.

So obedience, good works and of course faith are all needed to be saved.

Answer 4

YOU GIVE ME SCRIPTURE THAT PROVES YOU CAN'T.

Then, we can compare notes.

The most you have is Heb 10:38. and That is not saved always saved, that is a opinion, not a fact.

The fact is this. If you couldn't, the New testament would not mention 137 times, "warnings" of being plucked, being pruned, being trimmed, being set aside.

Bottom line is this. Read the last page of the Bible.

ANYONE, adding too or taking away.......

They're name shall be taken OUT of the Book of Life.


NOW..YOUR NAME HAD TO BE IN THERE....FOR IT TOO BE TAKEN OUT. RIGHT?

Now, from a Southern Baptist view, a person was never really saved. hahhahahahahaha. woooo hooooooo

Hey. God Himself, says, you really were.

A false always saved doctrine may get a person in trouble. It's a great comforting thought, but the fact is, YOU can NOT prove it. To say, a person was never saved to begin with, is the all time height of ignorance.
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Answer 5

The debate about OSAS seems to always come to the point of whether or not a person has been truly born again and received the Holy Spirit. We know that a person cannot commit a sin that the blood of Jesus is insufficient to pay for, but can a person willfully turn away from God? Can a person choose to give up their relationship with God through Christ. For instance I'll show you some passages and if you believe in the OSAS doctrine then your response will probably be something like "Well, a person who has been born again and has the power of God working in their life wouldn't do that" or something similar.

Revelation 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Hebrews 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. 28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: 29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. 31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

Hebrews 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, 6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

Personally, I don't take a stand one way or another on this teaching. I tell people that I believe the greater weight of the Scriptures seems to say that OSAS is a valid teaching but that it's better to take heed to your ways according to the following passage. As my Pastor says about this subject when people ask him about it "I'm not planning on losing my salvation are you?"

2 Peter 1:5 And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge; 6 And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness; 7 And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity. 8 For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins. 10 Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:

Answer 6

Nope. And the demonstration is surprisingly easy.

"He who hears My word and believes the One who sent Me has everlasting life, and will not be condemned, but has passed from death to life." (John 5:24).

Notice that the one who believes *has* (present tense, meaning right *now*) everlasting life.

Note that the life the believer has is "everlasting." If you have everlasting life, but you lose it next Tuesday, then it wasn't "everlasting," was it? In order to be truly everlasting, it has to be guaranteed, no matter what. So if God calls it "everlasting life," then it really does last forever, and can't be lost.

The rest of the verse reaffirms the promise: the one who believes *now* will not (future tense) be condemned. Meaning that even if you stop believing later, you still have everlasting life (because it lasts forever) and you still will not be condemned (because God just made that promise).

The last part of the verse tells you what happens when someone believes: he has passed from death, to life. It's done.

I should add that this doesn't mean you can't lose your reward in the Kingdom -- if you mess up your life here on earth, you will lose your heavenly rewards -- see 1 Corinthians 3:11-15. Note that the person who builds unwisely with his life will lose all his work, "...but he himself will be saved, yet as through fire." He enters the Kingdom smelling of woodsmoke, but he's there. Hebrews also goes to considerable lengths to discuss the severity of eternally secure believers losing their kingdom rewards. (Martin S, above, is wrong: a goodly chunk of OSAS folks will correctly say the verses he cites are addressing real threats to believers, but they're about temporal life and eternal reward, NOT heaven/hell.)

Answer 7

There are not a salvation for the person our the ego. Salvation is for the soul. But the sou is immortal, it is lost but all opportunities are offered to get the salvation. If it do not occur now, then there will be other opportunity. But not for the person... we, as person, live only one time.

Answer 8

forgiven_4evr,

You have asked a very good question - I don't have the scripture before be - so lets rephrase your question

If you are saved through God's plan of salvation - and turn to Satin and follow him - are you saved.

Part of God's salvation is that you are to repent of your old ways - repent basically means you make a U turn in your life - if you do not make this U turn and continue to follow in your old ways - are you saved?

You cannot follow one and expect the other to save you.

Please check out my web site - the Bible is explained in detail there:

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Answer 9

NO... my absolute proof is in The Truth of my Salvation, The promise of God to me. It is a promise that is to every one who comes to God in The Way he prosribes.

You may read my testimony of my first day of the Christian Faith at:

http://pages.zdnet.com/mikevanauken/mikesinternetoutreach/id109.html

from there you can go to the index and find the link to my pov on

Once Saved ALWAYS Saved

All honest seekers welcome

If you can deny the promise of John 3:16-17... then no other quote will prove it to you...

"For God so loved the world that he gave his only begoten son, that whosoever belirveth in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life
For God sent not His Son into the world to condem the world, but that the world, through Him, might be saved."

When God makes a promis He do'nt break it...

Answer 10

The short answer is YES. This is because salvation, as a "fait accompli" does not actually occur until after the Last Judgement. until that time what we think of as "salvation" is the POTENTIAL of being saved, at the Last Judgement. As long as we can sin, and as long as we can exercise our free will to choose to obey or disobey God, to believe or not believe in Jesus, we can risk our ultimate destiny ( eternal life with God). This can be demonstrated from several places in Scripture:
There is no salvation unless your name is written in the "Book of
Life" and it's not automatic: "And if anyone's name was not found written in [Rev 3:5; 20:12] the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire." (Rev 20:15)
And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged from the things which were written in the books, according to their deeds. (Rev 20:12)
And even if your name IS written in the Book of Life, it can be erased or blotted out. Thus you can LOSE what you had, namely Salvation: Psalm 69:28 May they be blotted out of the book of life. And may they not be recorded with the righteous.
Only if you ENDURE (overcome, persevere) can you be sure your name CONTINUES to be in the book of Life: He who overcomes will thus be clothed in white garments; and I will not erase his name from the book of life, and I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels. (Rev 3:5)
St. Paul was not so arrogant as to believe that he was "already saved and couldn't lose it": 1 Corinthians 9:25-27 Every athlete exercises discipline in every way. I drive my body and train it, for fear that, after having preached to others, I myself should be disqualified. - (no guarantee of salvation; it can be lost).
Rom 11:22 - See then, the kindness and severity of God; severity toward those who fell, but God's kindness to you, provided you remain in his kindness; otherwise you too will be cut off. (salvation is awarded only to those who remain faithful to the end).