Yeah, or how they say an ex-christian just wasn't a real christian to begin with.
2006-07-22 12:21:24
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answer #1
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answered by i luv teh fishes 7
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True Christians say and do what Jesus would say and do.
Some people think that calling themselves a Christian means all that they say and do is OK, and that they will go to Heaven.
I do not know of any Christian who do not still say or do something (at least every couple of months) that Jesus would not say or do.
No Christian that I know of is perfect, many are trying (with God's help) and are doing a good job (keep up the good work).
The hard part, is, at what point between the two groups is someone not a Christian any more? This is were a person is supposed to be honest with themselves and God, and compare themselves with the Bible and Jesus!
Because a Christian person takes part in an inquisition, crusade, etc.. that does not mean that that person is doing the right thing (they may be just using Christianity as a cover to do what they want), but that person may be doing it thinking that they are truly doing good for God.
Either way, what they are doing is a sin.
Only God can correctly judge why that person did it and what their punishment will be.
2006-07-22 12:36:37
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answer #2
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answered by tim 6
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Not everyone who crys Lord Lord will be saved only those that do the will of the Father.. And what is God's will It's to believe on His who God as sent.. If a person doesn't have faith in Jesus to be who He says He is and Faith that He will do what He said He will do, then they are NOT a christian. People that say oh I believed but let that "faith" crumble at the first sign of trouble never had a true faith and never were christians. Being a christian isn't easy you don't just sit back and say "I'm saved, I can live life for the flesh and I'll still be saved". A true christian lives by faith everyday..
2006-07-22 12:29:33
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answered by Anonymous
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Has it ever occurred to you that it may be true?
Believing in Jesus and the Bible is only half of it. The other half is actually wanting to be like Christ, and actively trying to be.
This means loving others, being peaceful, respecting everyone, and following the eleven (Moses's Ten, and Jesus's One) commandment.
THAT is what it means to be a true Christian.
So. Those who were involved with the Inquisition, the Crusades, and the witch hunts, unless they repented, are suffering doubly for what they did, because they used God's name to do those awful things.
It doesn't really matter what I think though, or what any other "Christian" or Christian thinks. It only matters what God thinks. Does God think that those people were Christians? Somehow, unless they were forgiven, I doubt it.
2006-07-22 12:25:19
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answer #4
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answered by The_Cricket: Thinking Pink! 7
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The Bible speaks of "false prophets" and also
"false anointed ones"
The (spiritual) rain falls on the weed the same as on the wheat.
Anyone can say they believe the Bible. Even the devil believes It.
A "true" Christian is one that follows the Christian teachings not only with their mouth but a life to back up what they say.
To believe in the Bible and Jesus is the same as believing
in Santa Claus. It means nothing if the life displayed doesn't prove you believe it.
Everyone says they are a "Christian" but it's not enough to just say it. They have to OBEY what God's Word says
if they want to consider themselves a "true" Christian.
2006-07-22 12:25:33
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answered by Joja 2
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Real Christians
One of the most frustrating aspects of conversing with Christians has to do with the definition of the term Christian itself. It's easy for anyone to point the finger at the history of Christianity and show its atrocities…the Crusades, the Inquisition, the Nazis… But it is equally easy for someone else to say, "They weren't True Christiansâ¢."
Now just what do you say to that? (If you're smart, you say nothing and walk away. But I'm not always smart.)
It seems that every Christian has their own definition of what it means to be a Christian. Silly me, I always thought a Christian was one who worshipped Jesus Christ as his/her savior. But to listen to some people, there's far more to it than that. Now, they can't come to an agreement on what those things might be, but they all insist that anyone who doesn't fit their special little definition isn't a Christian. The bible itself isn't clear on the subject, either. But then, the bible is full of contradictory passages, so this should be no surprise.
Some examples of the modern Christian's perspectives... I know of no Christian who accepts that Hitler and the Nazis could possibly have been Christian, despite Hitler's many speeches and writings, despite his words to friends, and despite the vocal beliefs of many of his followers. Similarly, groups like the KKK "aren't Christian," either, even though they constantly refer to Jesus. Catholics? No, they're not True Christiansâ¢, according to many Protestants. And vice versa.
I've been told that the behaviors of some "supposed" Christians aren't in keeping with the Scriptures, which teach forgiveness, love, and kindness, blah blah blah…
Well, the thing is, some biblical writings do teach such behavior. However, the "good book" is also full of actual examples of the opposite, and from "godly" men, too. Overall, it's a situation of "do as I say, not as I do." And we all know how well that works.
If one were to approach someone described as not being a "real" Christianâ¢, they'd insist that they are as "real" as they come. And in their minds, they probably are. So what point is really made by saying they aren't? It's simply a way to dismiss them, to write them off as being pretenders. But that doesn't change the fact that they are, whether one likes it or not, a representative of their professed beliefs. They may not be representative of the best aspects of said belief, but few people are, no matter the beliefs.
To my way of thinking, if you call yourself a Christian, and believe yourself to be a Christian, then it doesn't matter a bit if others think you're Christian or not. It's just a situation of some Christians not wanting to accept that Christians can be scum, just like anyone else.
2006-07-22 12:24:07
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answer #6
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answered by Anonymous
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Christians are just egotists. They all want to think that god is their personal friend, that they are chosen. Since they are god's chosen, I guess they feel entitled to judge who is "not a true christian" -- which usually comes down to anyone who they disagree with.
The Apostle Paul was a murderer who persecuted christians before his "conversion." Murder has a proud tradition throughout the history of christianity -- from the old testament, through the Crusades and Inquisition, all the way to the present day with the evangelicals creating the biblical Armageddon through political manipulations of the Mideast. Christians are the single biggest threat to peaceful, rational civilization.
2006-07-22 12:31:05
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answer #7
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answered by Heather L 4
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Ya I agree that if your a christian then you are and if you aren't then you aren't...
but since I am a chirstian its different for me... The people who do all those horrible things your talking about are most of the time saying their christian because they feel they have to or they did accept Jesus but since then have turned their backs but think that once your a christian then your always a christian... which isn't true...
I hate it just a much as you do but I try to help the people who fell away from God
Or at least I ttry because christians are humans too and we have the tendency to do wrong just like everyone else...
But we shouldn't be judged because we believe in the one and true God
2006-07-22 12:24:14
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answered by Anonymous
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Every club has its minimum requirements for admittance. Why can't Christians? We can't tell the Boy Scouts or the Rotary Club or the Democratic Party who to let in, so why do we have different standards for religious groups? Some Christians believe that, unless you share certain foundational beliefs, you are not worthy of the name "Christian." There's nothing wrong with that.
2006-07-22 12:26:48
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answered by jimbob 6
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The problem is that many "Christians" don't believe in Jesus as their personal Saviour. Even intellectual agreement doesn't cut it. The Bible says that some "Christians" are not really Christians and that God will react the same way, saying "Get out, I don't know you."
2006-07-22 12:21:28
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answered by amberaewmu 4
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Yes I wholeheartedly agree.
Some one who is no longer part of my immediate family says she is a born again christan..
If Christian means being like her , mealy mouthed ,backstabbing and the most selfish person I ever had the misfortune to meetI am glad I am not one.
Most of my friends are Christians and are wonderful caring and charitable people.We,my friends and I do not discriminate on religion or race for that matter.
Live and let live.
2006-07-22 12:27:37
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answered by witchfromoz2003 6
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