does the geneva convention even still exist?

Question

does it only apply to countries OTHER than the united states? How long will we, as a society, allow our leaders to commit war crimes in our names? for all of the good folk who will undoubtedly question whether the United States has, in fact, violated the Geneva Convention:
"The Convention requires that POW’s “must at all times be treated humanely,” and goes on to list a number of specific requirements: they must not be killed, seriously endangered, mutilated or subject to medical or scientific experiments. Furthermore, they must be protected against acts of violence or intimidation, and against “insults and public curiosity” (Article 13)."
-The Geneva Conventions and Prisoners of War
(this is just one example- there are plenty more...)

Answer 1

and do you think that all the proplems is the prisoners of war bad treating ? they will tell you they are not in uniform so they are not considered pow, but is that the only violation of geneva conventions by USA and israel ?.

sir , targeting civilians is against geneva conventions , destroying the infrastructure with no realy millitary nessecity is against geneva conventions , what israel is doing now in lebanon is against geneva conventions , taking civilains as prisoners with no evidence and pputing them in abo goraib prison and torturing them is against geneva conventions , taking others (civilians) from afghanestan to guantanamo for good , and putting them in cages for years is against geneva conventions .

invading and belligerantly colonizing afghanestan and iraq is against the UN charter itself , invading and belligerantly colonizing Iraq is against the UN charter , occuping the Golan Hights is against the UN charter itself , and against the the security council resolution 242 , invading lebanon by israel at 1982 and colonizing south lebanon for 22 years and not getting out except by the attackes of the resistance forces of Hizbullah (the call it terroriat) is against the UN charter itself , and against the the security council resolution 338 (considering how hard to get a security council resolution against israel where USA use veto everytime against the WHOLE WORLD )

SO FORGET THE INTERNATIONAL LAW , BECUASE ISRAEL AND USA INSIST TO SEDTROY IT, ONLY FOR THE SAKE OF USA GIRLFRIEND : ISRAEL

Answer 2

I agree with you entirely re the Geneva Convention. It's ridiculous to think civilians shouldn't be covered under the GC--they are a part of someones Govt. Why do you think the Cuban prison was secret? So the GOP could detain them indefinitely. The man from Afghanistan who was held at Gitmo, has filed papers to sue the US Govt. Scared the hell out of Bush--that's what brought about the Supreme Court's decision to rule in the favor of the Geneva Convention's rules. Congress is crazy if they rule in favor of Bush to change the law regarding this. Time to make Bush accountable for breaking the Geneva Convention AND the Constitution this country was founded on. How long will we allow Bush to keep breaking the law? Until he is impeached or out of office. That's when. And as far as our Republican controlled Congress-that (hopefully), will end in November 2006.

Answer 3

Hey jackass, since you know so much about the Geneva Convention and exactly what it says, what is considered to be a POW?
Is it an enemy soldier who is in the UNIFORM of a declared combatant?
Or does it protect, any joe schmoe wearing civilian clothes who decides to pick up a weapon and attack anyone they feel like killing?
If it protects terrorists and insurgents, why does it not apply to common thieves and murderers all over the world?
The answer is the Geneva Conventions DO NOT apply to anyone who is in civilian clothes...period...end of story.
If you want to quote stuff, quote the entire thing, not just the part that suits your pathetic agenda and point of view.

Answer 4

If you are refering to the detainees in Iraq you should know they don't qualify for POW status because they don't wear a uniform or operate under a government, or bear arms openly. Those are the three things that would make a normal detaineed a civilian.

And to make use of quotes read this:

Qualification as POW

In principle to be entitled to prisoner of war status the captured service member must have conducted operations according to the laws and customs of war, e.g. be part of a chain of command, wear a uniform and bear arms openly. Thus, franc-tireurs, terrorists and spies may be excluded. In practice these criteria are not always interpreted strictly. Guerrillas, for example, may not wear a uniform or carry arms openly, yet are typically granted POW status if captured. However, guerrillas or any other combatant may not be granted the status if they try to use both the civilian and the military status. Thus, the importance of uniforms — or as in the guerrilla case, a badge — to keep this important rule of warfare.

Answer 5

Yeah it does. Does it still apply yeah only to the western world.
If your a run of mill down town rag head who wants to cut prisoners heads of for propaganda stunts then no.
Every single member of any western army who gets caught violating the Geneva Conventions gets prosecuted and even some who don't. But your average boggy man in Iraq still uses women and children as shields. Attacks the injured, alters ammunition to cause more agonizing injury, parades prisoners and does nothing to protect the innocent. Yeah it exists but its just another tool nowadays for the bad guy to beat the good guy on the head with.

Answer 6

The Geneva convention specifically states that non-combatant civilians cannot be held prisoner, yet most of the prisoners in Guantanamo, Abu Ghraib, and other detention facilities were non-combatants, have not been charged with any crimes, nor have had any evidence put forth against them. just because they are not in uniform, does not mean we can torture them.

If it was legal, then some other countries army would be completely justified to come to your house, arrest you, take you to another country, and torture you to your death. Does this sound good to you? Can some other country do this to you?

Answer 7

It exists on paper. But nobody seems to feel that the US gets any of the protections. The sad thing is that the current criticism of the US are doing weakening the Laws and Customs of War by invalidating the rules that require an enemy to obey the GC in order to get its protections.

The last enemy we fought that obeyed the Laws and Customs of War were the Nazis.

Look at what is going on in Lebanon. By blaming Israel for the civilian deaths instead of applying the rules in the GC - the rule prohibiting using civilians as 'human shields' to protect ammunition dumps and military facilities has just been rendered invalid.

Answer 8

Absolute! It still is in existence. Our government is so much in their heads, that the only way to handle terrorism is through force. We went above everyone else, disregarding the Geneva Convention to things as we pleased. Quite a few countries are totally disappointed, knowing that no one around the world really respected Americans altogether. You are right it puts our image in jeopardy. But our military personel are thick headed people, they are well trained killing machine that morality seems not to make sense to them any way. It's all about power, and who's it is that must be tripped first.

Answer 9

The US military under the Bush administration makes it a habit of violating the Geneva conventions. Secret torture prisons in Europe, prosecution without due process in Guantanamo, soldiers raping and killing locals in Baghdad, for every story that leak, there are plenty more kept secret. It shames me as an American to know that these things are perpetrated in my country's name.

Answer 10

well, the supreme court ruled it did apply, even to the evil bush. the problem is the republican congress is a co-conspirator in the crimes of bush.

i truly think the american people will have to do something, like all skip work on the same day, to get the attention of our gangster leaders.