Why some don't understand "God"..my thoughts do you agree?

Question

I think some try to approach God on an intellectual level with a human reason as if we are investigating the Lockness Monster or UFO's. God is spirit, we cannot reach him on this type of intellectual persuit..it takes something deeper than that. Man was trying to cure disease by training the blood out of people just 200 years ago and spinning people on wheels trying cure emotional problems..the foolishness of man has a long and ridiculous history of failure..but some believe that we now have "arrived" in our great wisdom..and yet God remains and his people grow according to the cenus. It's not that some are bad they just approach God in humanist way that's doomed to fail. I read a question earlier and the person demanded evidence of God within 48 hours, he doesn't get it. We all have a measure of faith but it's up to us how we use it. I believe some work so hard to prove there is no God because they believe they won't be held accountable..an agnostic denial won't work
Do you agree?

Answer 1

Yes I agree that god is on a deeper level . You can not go and investigate a site where it s said he has been. The belief in God comes from within from the heart and soul.Anyone that believes knows that you cannot demand of God. And there are times that we might pray and the answer is no. So we keep going and do not loose our faith. We all face trials here on earth and depending on how we deal with them will show God how strong our faith is.
AS far as some people trying to prove that God is not real so they are not held accountable , Yes I agree. Whether that is because they have a glimmer of belief and do not want to accept or they just do not know any better . I believe that it goes both ways. And sometimes they may want to drag others down with them so they are not alone. It is sad but true.

Answer 2

No, I do not agree. I think that your head has been so thoroughly boogered up with dogmatic religious logical fallacies that you are incapable of rational thought.

You asked: "I believe some work so hard to prove there is no God because they believe they won't be held accountable..an agnostic denial won't work

First of all, I am not aware of anybody working (hard or otherwise) to "... prove there is no God...", for the simple reason that there is no reason to disprove something (the existence of god) which has never been proven in the first.

Second... accountability has nothing to do with unbelief in god. Altruistic and cooperative, moral behavior are evolved survival mechanisms, entirely within the scope of natural, normal, human behavior. The fact that 'believers' are incapable of recognizing this, and perceive that if they did not have some 'imaginary friend' who bears the responsibility for telling them how to conduct their lives in an ethical manner, implies that if they are just one thought away from running around, raping, murdering, eating meat on Friday, or any number of utterly depraved acts. One of the things that is so scary about Christians is that there is so little holding them back. This Christian trait makes atrocities such as the Crusades, the Inquisition, the Salem Witch Trials... and dozens or others... understandable.

Finally... you said "agnostic denial won't work." That is a logical fallacy... Straw Man Argument... Red Herring. There is no such thing as 'Agnostic denial'. Denial of WHAT? Agnosticism denies nothing... it just finds that there are no compelling reasons (since there is absolutely NO EVIDENCE) to believe that the myths, superstitions, fairy tales and fantastical delusions of an ignorant bunch of Bronze Age fishermen and wandering goat herders has anything to do with any sort of cosmic 'truth' pertaining to existence and reality. In order to delude one's self in such a manner, it is necessary to accept, as the unerring word of god, such nonsense as a terrarium earth, talking snakes and donkeys, demons, friendly spirits, evil spirits, walking on water, multiplying loaves and fishes, people raising from the dead, stopping the sun in its tracks, parting seas, people being bodily sucked up into heaven (which, by the way, lies on the other side of the sky), world-wide floods, creating people from dust bunnies and ribs, magical trees of knowledge, gods speaking from burning bushes... and ritual cannibalism by eating god in the form of a cracker.

Atheists and agnostics, as rational people, are disinclined to believe such drivel... for many of the same reasons that they are disinclined to believe in the Tooth Fairy, Thor and the Easter Bunny.

"I contend that we are both atheists.  I just believe in one fewer god than you do.  When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."  ~ Stephen Roberts

Answer 3

I see the concept of god much like you described mans early attempts at medicine. Early men witnesses events of nature and without any scientific means at their disposal the only means they have to explain them is that there must be god or gods. God(s) is a creation of man in an attempt to explain the natural world. Your contention that god is beyong intellectual understand is a theological denial. You feel god must be kept complicated in order to sustain the concept when in actuality the concept of god is quite simple.....he, she, it doesn't exist, never has existed. Man created god in his image, NOT the other way around.

Answer 4

of course, god is a personal choice. many who ask for god to be "proven" to them forget that. its a spiritual connection that some need, and others don't.
many atheists don't need to disprove or prove god. we're comfortable in our beliefs. i'm afraid those who make the "prove it to me" claims are just scared in case there is a god. they don't know where to turn since they don't want to believe in god but seem to have some lingering feelings about the topic. they want to be sure that the path they've chosen is correct, and unfortunately, no one can be sure, at least in terms of universal truth.

Answer 5

It is true that one cannot understand the Almighty by reason. To know him and feel his presence on needs to unconditionally love him and be able to relate to all human beings as the outwardly manifestation of the almighty. The almighty by himself is detached and does expect to be as perfect as he is.

If one has to look at evidence of God then a simple way to prove that is when one goes to sleep at night, he wakes up as though he just existed in the same form at the time he went to sleep. The event of 'coming to consciousness' itself is proof of God's existence.

Sri Sri Paramahansa Yogananda, a saint once said of his experience of the presence of God by a voice that said as follows " Thou dost say I am away, but thou didst not come in. That is why thou does say that I am away. I am always in come in and you will see meI am always there ready to greet thee". So it is only that our effort is less hence we cannot feel the presence of the Almighty

Answer 6

yeah i agree....i think that people wanna know where that "power" of healing comes from..a lot of them use that term "seeing is believing" and i agree the most where we have a certain amout of faith and its our job on how to use it, but i think that we can extend our faith, but you have to have faith to extned it more..(hope that makes sense) i think that if people would just try and seek God for healings.....then it would make life alot easier and humanity would't look so foolish

Answer 7

Your statement is true and backs up my contention that the Bible is easy to understand when approached in the correct manner.

Answer 8

actually i loved this right up till the last sentence lol
i don't believe its denial .. for some people they need something more factual and that's OK
you're philosophy there though was quite inspiring up till that point so thank you for sharing that

Answer 9

Yup

Answer 10

You have to be free to understand God