Do millitary women have to go through the same training as men? if so why exclude them from front line combat?

Question

For all of you who who talk about men being phsically strong try childbirth. oh wait you can't therefore you have no clue about wemen and stength. matter of fact just watch childbitrh and you will get a good notion of pain and strength matter of fact ask your mammas how it felt and how long she suffered to make shure you popped out that pussy of hers. then come back and tell me women aren't strong. And as far the comment of wemen risking their lives for others your mothers would have risked here lives for you if need and many still would be(well depending on your moms character).

Answer 1

i thought they aren't excluded from combat?

Answer 2

All the other answer here are good and pretty accurate. But the real reason women are not allowed in combat comed down to PR reasons. The wars we fight now are more public relation and political wars. Yes, people can argue than men are by birth natural more physical than women but I have seen many women who can hack it as well as other men. Yes, they do the same training as the men but the military standards are a little lower for the women as far as the physical side. All these are small factors to why women are not allowed in combat. The main reason is for the public relations side of it. The military is so worried about what it looks like. Wants to look like it is doing the right thing. They even say what you can say to the press and what you cant say to the press. The general rule I have heard is you can talk about anything positive but anything negative keep to yourself. The are trying to put a more human face to the war since so many people are against the war. They are trying to talk more about familes and missing home and what we are accomplishing in the war and not the negative side of how much it is costing, how many people have died or been severly injured. It just sounds bad when on TV they said 4 women were killed in a gun fight today. From birth men are considered the hunter gatherers and women more for raising children. So it sounds really bad when a young mother of two chlidren was gunned down in Iraq today. Subconsciously it sounds far worse than a man killed. Also say the unit was a mixed unit in combat and a woman and a man were both injured men feel more protective over the women. Many studies been done on this and the majority of the time the medic or whoever is there to tend medical aide will rush to the injured womans side and not the injured mans side first. There supposed to be no prejudice on medical aide or who to help or assist in the military or combat but subconsciously in a mans mind he has to protect the females and can lead to poor subconscious decisions. The man reason is still the PR. Trying to make the war seem like less a war doesnt work when mothers of children are being gunned down daily and puts a harsher sound to war itself.

Answer 3

It is called a double standard, and it permeates much of our society when we institute so called gender equality in the workplace or military. It you go to Military.com and do a search on the basic physical fitness tests that both men and women have to go through, you will see that the standards, and in some cases the exercises, are different, where a man must achieve a higher number of pushups, situps and quicker times in endurance events. Certain branches of the military, that require the use of pull-ups (chin-ups), to test upper body strength require women only have to perform the much easier flexed arm hang.

I grant that the inherit physiological difference between men and women preclude most women, with the exception of the genetically gifted, from matching the numbers that men produce on these tests. However, these standards are formulated for a reason! It has been devised, by those who know a thing or two about combat, that if a person can meet such and such standards, then he or she will perform optimally during a combat situation. To lower the bar just to accommodate the inherit shortcomings of a gender is not only another form of inequality, it also a waste of time, money and can endanger people’s lives.

Think about if these sort of concessions were made in other career paths where inherit traits can make the difference between someone getting a job or not. A truck driver requires good vision to drive. Suppose I was born blind. Would it be fair for me to demand that I get a trucker’s license under the banner of equality? Would you like to drive beside a visually impaired man who is driving an eighteen-wheeler? I am only 5 feet 6 inches tall. I like to play basketball. I can do nothing about my height because it is an inherited feature. Suppose I sued the NBA because they did not lower the performance standards so that I can be on par with other NBA players who are 6’5” and above.

The ultimate litmus test of whether a person should be hired for a job or not is their performance, not whether the test discriminates against those with inherited differences. Keep in mind there are inherited characteristics that women have both emotionally and physically that bar men from competing against them in other career paths. Do you see men whining about that? Society needs to get a grip and realize that people are different and certain people are not meant for certain things. Lets learn to use those differences to get the most out of people instead of manipulating our standards to try and make people appear the same.

Answer 4

There are different standards for their training. They have to do less push ups, pull ups, etc. to pass a fitness test than a man has to do. In the Marines women are trained completely separately from men and their practices have been praised throughout the military community for the ability to create some semblance of parity. The main reason for not allowing women to serve in combat units is because of the effect it would have on the men that serve with them. The fear is that they would be distracted.

Another reason is that women invariably get pregnant. Women becoming pregnant is a large problem in the navy. This is a fact not speculation on my part. They have to be taken off of a ship while it is underway. This is a huge distraction to accomplishing the mission. Women are currently not allowed submarines but if they someday are allowed can you imagine if the sub has to surface to off load the pregnant woman while it is supposed to be in the middle of a six month deployment where they are not supposed to be seen.

The only way to accomplish it would be to create a completely female unit, but I doubt the military brass would ever go for it.

Answer 5

Women, like it or not, aren't as physically strong, fit or enduring as men, to put them on the front line would be to weaken it.

Not being sexist, but that's the way the sexes are designed, we are different, get over it. That's why they aren't allowed to join the SAS. Evolution dictated that men were the warriors and designed them thus; women weren't designed in the same way.

Also there's the issue that the men, being chivalrous and all that, would risk their lives and the lives of their friends to save the women soldiers, even if it meant disobeying orders, which would make them a hinderance on the front line.

Answer 6

Heres the aspect, i will get thumbed down for this yet unwell tell the certainty. women and men differe physiologically because our primitive aspects are made for one certainty: guy = Hunt, provide, safeguard, female = Nurture, Care, Breed. Now if a woman can carry the eighty+ pound rucksack and march round for DAYS, then Im excited by it. Now as for women on subs, they're going to under no circumstances recieve a command of their own sub because tests have shown that men make more effective recommended judgements depending off adventure, training and skill even as maximum (no longer all) women base their determination off thoughts, which in a demanding state of affairs, like a nuclear launch, isnt very sturdy.

Answer 7

Women have the same training as the men.. Basic training and AIT have both genders in the same classrooms or trainings. Women go to war and do their job. Check the names of those who have died. There are males and females no exception. I was a female in the military and had the same opportunities as the guys... Except female get 40 days of free, payed leave and guys don't...

Answer 8

The training is the same. The reason women can't fight is because of the emotional issue. If I'm in a foxhole blowing camel jocks to hell, and I have a woman next to me and she gets shot in the head, I'm screwed. I couldn't deal with that. I'd assume blame, I'd feel I would have to contact her parents and explain. It would just be all bad. If it's a guy who got shot and he's a friend, it's going to piss me off and now the ragheads better watch out cuz I'm gonna rambo them bstards.

Answer 9

They go through essentially the same training, most of it right along side their male peers. Women are barred from combat units by law, though many women do serve in harms way -- and do so as well as their male peers.

Answer 10

Childbirth does not equate to combat. It does not equate to carrying 80 pounds of gear for days and weeks. It does not equate to killing. It does not equate to dying if necessary. It does not equate to being able to engage in hand-to-hand combat with a male.

Answer 11

No. The training for military women is somewhat easier-going than for men. However, they should receive equal training and equal treatment.