Is the hate that you have for "lawbreakers" the only driving factor >?

Question

that you have for wanting all illegals deported?IF SO ,does your allegiance with the laws change as the laws change?Do you let the laws of this nation tell you what is wrong and right?Can't you come up with your own opinion?Or do you have to have someone to tell you what the difference between right and wrong is?

Answer 1

Good Question Pancha, I wish we can all be as wise as you some day.

They View whats important by what ever they see in the Evening News. They've Been Brain washed by Fox News. It's not there fault when I was in the Military over seas that's I they use to have on, then I came home and that's all I watched. Then I started watching CNN and it made a lot more sense without them trying to tell me what my opinion was.

Answer 2

I think unwise immigration of poor people to the point where services like education and health care, predominantly funded by others, are failing, is a bad idea whether it is through illegal immigration or a guest worker program (legal).

The difference is that the guest workers, once legally here, would have defined rights to be in this country and get its services. Illegals do not.

However, I am not in favor of deportation except of the nasties. I am adamant that we fix the problem before loosening immigration through a guest worker program OR amnesty, however.
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To the post below, running a red light is an infraction, not a crime, and its punishment is not deportation. Different offenses have different consequences. However, no one should commit the offense then expect to get out of a consequence.
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yars, I think BOTH the Senate Bill AND the House Bill are dead, in that both bodies will need to introduce a new bill next year. I don't see the House budging, thank heaven (since the Senate Bill is born of demonspawn), but as Specter dryly noted, the House can't pass a bill without the Senate.

Answer 3

PANCHA...

To answer your first question: I do not hate lawbreakers.
But a society without laws is doomed to collapse under the weight of anarchic chaos. If you ask me, deportation versus prison sounds like a 'no-brainer' choice for an illegal immigrant, but it must be one or the other if the Rule-of-Law is going to be maintained.

Does my allegiance change as the laws change? Allegiance to what: My country? - Absolutely not.
Any change of allegiance I would undertake would be directed at my support of certain members of the legislative and/or executive branches of our government; a politician who drafts and endorses a law that I disagree with will not get my vote.

Do I let this nation tell me what's wrong or right? No, I do not. But that does not give me the right to break the laws I don't agree with. For example, in my opinion I do not think mandatory seat-belt laws are 'right', but what I think about it doesn't matter. In a democratically-run society, the majority makes the rules; you either follow them, or your punished:...

...It's as simple as that.

Answer 4

Pancho Do you let the laws of this nation tell you what is wrong and right?Can't you come up with your own opinion?Or do you have to have someone to tell you what the difference between right and wrong is? That's the same as saying ("This is so trivial it's not worth talking about. Imagine if this line of defence were available to all criminals ("Look I know I've just murdered 12 people but that's all in the past, we can't change the past, let's put it behind us, concentrate on the future so we can all get on with our lives" - this would do wonders for prison overcrowding).
As I've said before pancha, Have you ever thought that you might POSSIBLY be wrong about something?

Answer 5

"Does your allegiance with the laws change as the laws change?"

LOL! That's good. Geez, should red light runners be deported, too? I wonder how many people who espouse "lawbreaker" tirade would go that far as well

The true criminals in the immigration issues are those American's who have given the illegal's jobs and commited fruad so they could buy houses and land.

Personally, I feel that what we should do is round up those citizens who have _knowingly_ assisted illegals by giving them cash only jobs, or commited fraud or forgery to help the illegals thrive here in the first place, and strip them of their citizenship and deport THEM!

Many of the illegals I've met have higher morals than the American's who supposedly "help" them.

Answer 6

No, the American Spirit cannot be extinguished. You know from my many postings your not even close. The more you ask about our character and resolve, the more you expose how much you do not know us.

Understand this. What the House has done knows what the Senate refuses to belive. I see it time and again, only the House bill is on the table, the Senate bill is dead.

We have had our share of unjust laws, and we have the experience dealing with them that you know nothing about.

The American people will never be subjugated by law.

Answer 7

i don't hate them i hate the situation i hate the fact that mexico is not being called out on this, that their own people hold no ill will towards their government and make no demands of them . now would be a good time. and that this is all on us ! that is crazy ,mexico is not a poor country why should we let this go on any longer we gave amnesty after amnesty plus you can come legal . wont mexico's corruption keep growing ? it must stop wont they cry for the next batch that might make it in . this has nothing to do with the hate of the people but i don't see them crying help the poor people they have cheated for what they have done SS numbers stolen , people who have died , people who had to pay for medical cost because of a illegal smashing in to them my nephew for one , lost jobs for legals , the tax payers cost's , where is the payback for them or is your hate for these people your only driving factor so more of your family can cross illegal? and your love for the illegals your only driving factor that you may throw out any laws that does not suit you ?

Answer 8

mexican and legal for 30 yrS here. im a variable. im also gay. many people have used the immigration issue to further the race issue too. my last name is irish {adopted} and how many jobs do i get? i can get ONE-it's the hassle of interviewing i get" oh i thought you were white-- oh and what are you gonna do about daycare? "IM SPANISH OR AN IMMIGRANT SO THAT MAKES ME A SLUT AND IM UNEDUCATED? im am loyal to mexico. i am loyal to the usa. i get dual citizenship. the laws apply to everyone. can you blame someone for wanting a better life? someone's parents made it here, and someone's parents sighned the constitution. people seem to use the lawbreakers/immigration/race issue as one and don't think about the ugly truths about who built 100% of all the usa bridges here- IMMIGRANTS! BUT TO WANT A BETTER LIFE WE BREAK THE LAW? usa is up in the top 5 for human trafficking-people from the usa bring illegals here but their not breaking the laws by forcing sex trade? or american factories need cheap labor so they hire mexican women in us-mexican based factories and let women get raped and killed? where are the laws there? ILLEGALS DO THE **** JOBS AMERICANS WON'T DO OR THEY ARE TO PROUD TO DO IT! POINTS TO PONDER--FOLKS AND YES THINK THE LAWS AND CONSEQUENCES THROUGH- ABOUT WHO REALLY BREAKS LAWS-- OH AND NEXT TIME SEE THE SIGN THAT READS"YES IM LEGAL BITCHES--DON'T HATE BECAUSE MY LAUNDRY IS CLEANER THAN YOURS!!!" sorry for random pointmaking but i agree with you.

Answer 9

nope, I get facts and research the available information, then decide for myself what is "right and wrong".
It seems to me that the criminal trespassers in America need to go back to wherever they call home and agitate for change in their homelands, if things are so bad.
Approximately 90% of the worlds countries are governed by some form of democratic rule, there are choices for the people to create humanitarian change in their country of origin.
Dont enter MY country illegally and then attempt to create a revolution for change when you dont have ANY constitutional, or legal right to do so.
GO HOME & CHANGE YOUR COUNTRY! Dont expect Americans to cater to your dream of a mythical homeland simply because you have the ability to outbreed the legal population. You need to get a clue. Some condoms wouldnt hurt either.

Answer 10

No
No ( my actions do change though) I may not like some laws but I do follow them.
No
Yes
Sometimes