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Is it really true that scientologists believe this, or is it just a rumor?

2006-07-21 17:09:16 · 6 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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That rumor is not true, but the real one is just as absurd.

They don't believe we are descended from aliens. They do believe we are descended from clams which is why people get jaw ache! (according to hubbard anyway)

They believe little alien souls inhabit our bodies that we have to get rid of.

Here is the evidence, as agreed upon by Scientology lawyers in a court of law, during the Fishman trials.

So Yes South Park it is accurate... And I can actually prove it.

See the show here if you missed it:
http://www.xenutv.com/cruise/sp-closet.htm
(and remember spoofs & satires are still based on reality)

Here is an extract in Hubbard's own handwriting confirmed by the Church's lawyers in court.
http://www.xenu.net/archive/OTIII-scholar/

Here is another court freed document which concerns the whole of OTIII which came up in court during the Fishman Affidavit, you can check out other OT levels here too; see OTVIII for an interesting comment about Jesus.
http://www.xs4all.nl/~kspaink/fishman/index2.html

Here is a summary from an ex-member:
http://www.xenu.net/archive/OTIII-scholar/atack-ot3-summary.txt

And they are more upset than they will let on here.

I'm not accusing theta of anything, but these quotes might help understand why scientology won't tell you the truth:

"THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN CONTROL PEOPLE IS TO LIE TO THEM. You can write that down in your book in great big letters. The only way you can control anybody is to lie to them."
L. RON HUBBARD "Technique 88"

" I also trained other Scientology PRs on how to handle the media, using material from Hubbard. This included how to respond to a question without answering, how to divert the issue, how to tell "an acceptable truth," how to stall for time, how to assume various emotional states to control another, how to "attack the attacker," how to take control of a conversation, how to introvert a person and how to "get the message across" (especially in an age of sound bites), how to help Scientology attorneys write inflammatory legal papers so the PR could then safely use the abusive phrases, and how to appear to be a religion."
Robert Vaughn Young PR Relations Officer for the Church of Scientology for 20 years.
http://www.clambake.org/archive/media/young-quill.html

Theta has been away for a while, and seems to have started answering again 1 day before south park aired again... hmmmm.

Here is a book concerning scientology from an ex-member:
http://www.clambake.org/archive/books/apobs/

The Church of Scientology is a destructive cult as defined by numerous cult experts world wide.

http://www.clambake.org

I consider Wikipedia a neutral site, that has no vested interest to be critical or positive of scientology. They cannot get away from the mountains of evidence.
http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/xenu
http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/scientology

2006-07-22 21:54:49 · answer #1 · answered by Xenu.net 5 · 1 0

As a Scientologist for over 35 years now I feel I probably know something about this.
Rumours are in fact just rumours, and are usually intended to degrade or invalidate someone or something.
( Especially when they are promoted by the media, TV and various bogus websites)

Here are some facts about what Scientology actually is:

Scientology is an applied religious philosophy. When I say "applied" I mean you actually use it in your life to change or improve existing conditions. This is different from a religious practice. All religions if you learn about them have a basic philosphy, but they also have certain dogma, rituals and observances, and a certain faith or belief is required. There is nothing wrong with this, but Scientology is not that kind of religion. It does not intrude on anyones faiths of beliefs particularly in the area of God , the Supreme Being, or the Infinite. This area is left totally up to the indivdual, which is why you can be a practicing Jew,for example and still use and apply the priniciples of Scientology in your life. It does not conflict. If anything it will enhance your understanding of your chosen religious practice.
You can have no specific religious beliefs and still benefit from using it.
And it is only true for you according to your own observation and experience with it.
It is a non denominational religion . The dictionary definition that applies:
Religion: The spiritual or emotional attitude of one who recognises the existence of superhuman power or powers.

The most basic principle of Scientology is that YOU are your own immortal soul, that this is not a "thing" you HAVE but what YOU actually are.
The whole purpose of Scientology is to increase an individual's understanding and awareness of himself. And thereby his native abilities .
When you do this the sphere and zone of his positive influence increases and moves outward into his life, his family ,his friends, his groups and mankind which he is part of.

How this result is achieved is the "technology" of Scientology, which was developed by L.Ron Hubbard after his extensive research and the discoveries he made, about the human spirit. The basic religious philosophy and knowledge of Scientology is very old, going back 10,000 years at least to the Veda or Vedic Hymns from the East. The developement of the technology is new.
He completed his research before his death in 1986 and left all of his results and copyrights
to the Church of Scientology along with most of his considerable estate., when he died.

He published a book in 1951 to communicate the basic principles he discovered called: " Scientology The Fundementals of Thought"
There are currently over 8 million Scientologists in more that 150 countries world wide. However we are a new religion, only 55 years old.
The true story of Scientology as a religion goes like this:
1. A philosopher developes a philosophy about life and death.
2. People find it interesting.
3. People find it works.
4. People pass it along to others.
5. It grows.

Note the absence of any belief in "aliens" etc.
Human beings are human beings.
Me included !

2006-07-22 15:56:46 · answer #2 · answered by thetaalways 6 · 0 0

I'm sure its true, but it's not totally correct, but they are barking up the right tree, I will give you a videos to view and you can judge for yourself and see how close or how far they are from what may be truth. What would you do if you realized that some of what they believe is actually truth? This info may be disturbing so beware. Know this no matter what you believe or think life is, it is only a game, enjoy it.

2006-07-21 18:25:12 · answer #3 · answered by commonxsense2005 3 · 0 0

In Scientology doctrine, Xenu (also Xemu) is an alien ruler of the "Galactic Confederacy" who, 75 million years ago, brought billions of people to Earth in DC-8-like spacecraft, stacked them around volcanoes and blew them up with hydrogen bombs. Their souls then clustered together and stuck to the bodies of the living, and continue to wreak chaos and havoc today.

These events are known to Scientologists as "Incident II", and the traumatic memories associated with them as The Wall of Fire or the R6 implant. The story of Xenu is part of a much wider range of Scientology beliefs in extraterrestrial civilizations and alien interventions in Earthly events, collectively described as space opera by L. Ron Hubbard, science fiction writer and founder of Scientology.

Hubbard detailed the story in Operating Thetan level III (OT III) in 1967, famously warning that R6 was "calculated to kill (by pneumonia etc) anyone who attempts to solve it." The Xenu story was the start of the use of the volcano as a common symbol of Scientology and Dianetics from 1968 to the present day.

Much of the criticism of the Church of Scientology focuses on the story of Xenu. The Church has tried to keep Xenu confidential; critics claim revealing the story is in the public interest, given the high prices charged for OT III, part of Scientology's secret "Advanced Technology" doctrines taught only to members that have already contributed large amounts of money to the organization.

The Church avoids making mention of Xenu in public statements and has gone to considerable effort to maintain the story's confidentiality, including legal action on the grounds of both copyright and trade secrecy. Despite this, much material on Xenu has leaked to the public.

2006-07-21 17:16:57 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Yes, it's true, but you won't get an actual Scientologist to admit to it. Of course, not all of them officially know this yet. They have to pay thousands of dollars to get to that level of knowledge. Sad, isn't it?

2006-07-22 16:01:10 · answer #5 · answered by Terisu 7 · 0 0

You need to see the South Park episode featuring Tom Cruise.

2006-07-21 17:24:33 · answer #6 · answered by Arkangyle 4 · 0 0

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