If we need more soldiers, what about drafting illegals--couldn't they earn citizenship that way?

Answer 1

Lets see, for an institution that has a foundation in integrity, excellence, and service before self, how do you expect someone who cant follow simple immigration rules, traffic rules, and some barely speak English to help the military recover from the downward spiral its already in. I just find all this illegal immigration stuff to be ridiculous. I'm spending $5000 to get my Russian Fiancée here the honest way. As far as I’m concerned we should deport them, and get the National Guard to shoot any "terrorist" who illegally cross our borders. Why not have them fill out the paperwork, become a citizen then enlist to give back to a country they seek refuge in.

Answer 2

I've lived in the US for 2 years . I am not an American but I dont like the whole entire illegal immigrant issue in America . I got harrassed by illegal immigrants so many times and I was really feared for my life since these people are not even registered . I think hard immigration laws are good for the US safety eventhough it lowers my chances to get a work visa in the US again but it makes America a better place for Americans .

Answer 3

Even The Little Ol Lady ILLEGAL Aliens??
The 5-6 Year Old Illegal Aliens In The First Grade??

I Am Not Sure
This Is Even A Partial Solution
Or Even An Approach
To The Problem
In Fact, It Could Be A Mistake

A Fighting Force Must Be LOYAL
To The Nation, And The Flag

You Can't Force People To Fight FOR or WITH You
When Their Political Loyalties And Ideals
Are Similar To The Enemy's

After You Train And Arm Them
They Might Turn On You


From The Chicago Sun-Times May 1, 2006
http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-gangs01.html

The Gangster Disciples, Latin Kings and Vice Lords
were born decades ago
in Chicago's most violent neighborhoods.
Now, their gang graffiti is showing up 6,400 miles away
in one of the world's most dangerous neighborhoods -- Iraq.

Armored vehicles,
concrete barricades
and bathroom walls
all have served as canvasses
for their spray-painted gang art.
At Camp Cedar II, about 185 miles southeast of Baghdad,
a guard shack was recently defaced
with "GDN" for Gangster Disciple Nation,
along with the gang's six-pointed star
and the word "Chitown," a soldier who photographed it said.

The graffiti, captured on film by an Army Reservist
and provided to the Chicago Sun-Times,
highlights increasing gang activity
in the Army
in the United States
and overseas, some experts say.

Military and civilian police investigators
familiar with three major Army bases in the United States --
Fort Lewis,
Fort Hood
and Fort Bragg --
said they have been focusing recently
on soldiers with gang affiliations.
These bases ship out many of the soldiers fighting in Iraq.

'They don't try to hide it'

Jeffrey Stoleson,
an Army Reserve sergeant in Iraq for almost a year,
said he has taken hundreds of photos of gang graffiti there.

In interviews with the almost 320 soldiers
who admitted they were gang members,
only two said they wanted out of gangs, Barfield said.

"They're not here for the red, white and blue.
They're here for the black and gold,"
he said, referring to the gang colors of the Latin Kings.

They Are Learning urban warfare
"I know there is a lot more going on here,
he said.
"I don't inspect off-base housing or married soldiers' housing."

The Gangster Disciples
are the most worrisome street gang at Fort Lewis
because they are the most organized, Barfield said.

Barfield said gangs are encouraging their members
to join the military to learn urban warfare techniques
they can teach when they go back to their neighborhoods.

"Gang members are telling us in the interviews
that their gang is putting them in," he said.

Barfield said a big concern
is what such gang members trained in urban warfare
will do when they return home.

Of paramount concern
is whether gang-affiliated soldiers' training
will make them deadly urban warriors
when they return to civilian life
and if some are using their access to military equipment
to supply gangs at home, said Barfield and other experts.

Barfield said he knows of civilian gang members
in the Seattle area who also have been caught
with flak jackets that he suspects were stolen from Fort Lewis.

Barfield said he has documented
gang-affiliated soldiers' involvement in
drug dealing,
gunrunning
and other criminal activity off base.

More than a year ago, a soldier tied to a white supremacy group
was caught trying to ship an assault rifle
from Iraq to the United States in pieces, he said.

Answer 4

How about we only allow Americans that have served to have the freedoms that Soldiers fought to bring to Americans since 1775. No voting, no freedom of the Press, Free Speech, etc, unless you have served.

That is the same thing you are bringing up. What have you done to earn your rights?

Answer 5

did you hear about when american military recruiters went to recruit in the high schools in tijuana? that was until the school president threw them off campus!

or the mecxican guy who died in iraq and they were going to reward him with a posthumous citizenship....thanks alot!

the war is not their problem. NONE of them voted for this president so why should they pay for our mistakes?

Answer 6

I think that would be a good idea. If you really want to be here, then earn your keep.....My dad was a resident here from Mexico and he joined the army and became a citizen. I would say that is fair deal...He told me it helped mature him real fast!

Answer 7

Actually, a few mexican citizens traveled over to Iraq with the U.S. troops and they did earn US citizenship, it was on CNN i think.

Answer 8

Illegals can and do join the Armed Forces.

Answer 9

To join the US armed forces one must already be either a US citizen or a legal permanent resident.

Answer 10

So what's up with the citizenship mate i don't think it is a real issue eh !