In the dualistic scenario of an afterlife, those on the right hand get to go to heaven, while those on the left will be cast into the furnace. No doubt every believer knows someone, perhaps even loves someone, whom they assume will not make it past the pearly gate. Would this diminish your enjoyment of heaven?
2006-07-21 15:18:33 · 29 answers · asked by NHBaritone 7 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
BEEKAY: How is that an answer to this question?
2006-07-21 15:23:39 · update #1
ILJ: So you contend that God will stop you from caring about the other people?
2006-07-21 15:24:28 · update #2
So if God wipes your memories away (as some said), how do you even know you're yourself? How do you know you're with your dead grandmother? How can you have a relationship with God if all he does is zap your memory like Smith & Jones in "Men in Black"?
2006-07-21 15:28:22 · update #3
These answers are very different from the messages I've heard at funerals. Do you think you're ability to have a relationship with anyone other than God disappears once you get to heaven? Is there no one else there you even recognize?
2006-07-21 15:32:59 · update #4
ANYONE WHO CAN TELL ME WHERE THE IDEA OF ERASED MEMORY CAME FROM, I'M CURIOUS TO FIND OUT.
2006-07-21 15:34:50 · update #5
HERE I AM: Did you edit your Ecclesiastes quote ? Here it is in context: "Everything before them is vanity, since one fate comes to all, to the righteous and the wicked, to the good and the evil, to the clean and the unclean, to him who sacrifices and him who does not sacrifice. As is the good man, so is the sinner; and he who swears is as he who shuns an oath. This is an evil in all that is done under the sun, that one fate comes to all; also the hearts of men are full of evil, and madness is in their hearts while they live, but after that they go to the dead. But he who is joined with all the living has hope, for a living dog is better than a dead lion. For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing, and THEY HAVE NO MORE REWARD [emphasis added]; but the memory of them is lost. Their love and their hate and their envy have already perished, and they have no more for ever any share in all that is done under the sun."
This simply sounds like death, not heaven.
2006-07-21 16:42:52 · update #6
why do you think I am trying to make it into heaven...I don't want to be around some of them here on earth....Just to think I would have to spend an eternity with them....lol
2006-07-21 15:21:36 · answer #1 · answered by say it ain't so 3 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Ecclesiastes 9:5, 6
For the living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all, neither do they anymore have wages, because the remembrance of them has been forgotten.
So who said we are going to heaven or to hell? Rev. 7:4 says there will be only 144,000 that are sealed and going to heaven.
There is also mention in revelation, a great crowd Rev. 7:9, 10.
As far has hell is concerned, are you familiar with the scriptures in Proverbs 30:15, 16?
How about a hope of living forever on a paradise earth that was promised to Adam and Eve for themselves and their offspring?
As promised in the book of Genesis chapters 2 and 3?
Doesn't this hope of not dieing in order to gain the ultimate reward appeal to you?
2006-07-21 15:41:45 · answer #2 · answered by Here I Am 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
When we go to heaven, we will not remember anything that happened down on earth. There would be no point in going to heaven if we were to feel pain or cry for something. We might as well stay on earth. It would peace and love for eternity. That's the prize. Therefore that's why we have to keep on presenting the whole world with Jesus Christ. The ones who would suffer for ever are the ones who don't accept him. We suffer for our loved ones now that we are in earth. Because we still have the same mind in earth. When we go to heaven we will have a gloryfied body. We will be completely different, and won't remember a thing. god bless.
2006-07-21 15:29:15 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Isaiah 65:17 "For behold, I create new heavens and a new earth, and the former things shall not be remembered or come into mind.
Psalms 16:11 You make known to me the path of life; in your presence there is fullness of joy; at your right hand are pleasures forevermore.
2006-07-21 16:29:51 · answer #4 · answered by Martin S 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
You're assuming there will be a remembrance of them.
I'm not so sure.
Revelation 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
No sorrow nor crying or pain. Former things passed.
I can't imagine He would have us fretting about those who didn't make it. Might ruin the party.
Perhaps?
2006-07-21 15:27:33 · answer #5 · answered by NickofTyme 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
My guess would be that they probably got what they 'deserved'. Of course, on the other hand---we all really deserve hell and are only saved by the grace of God.....
I think that I might be sad that they had not made better choices....but I certainly wouldnt be sad about the choices I made. I think that the Beatific Vision will be such that joy is so complete, and our understanding will become full.
It makes me think of a wedding someone chooses not to attend. The wedding isn't diminished because someone chooses not to attend----the reality is that---it is only THEIR loss....
2006-07-21 15:25:16 · answer #6 · answered by Michelle A 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The immense pleasure Heaven has to offer cannot even be comprehended by man's mind. The presence (or lack thereof) of loved ones in this life will be inconsequential in the presence of the Lord.
2006-07-21 15:22:57 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
You will not have those same feelings in Heaven if you get there.You will be one with the mind of God and all things will make sense.Enjoyment is not the proper word,that word would be perfection and you can not diminish perfection.
2006-07-21 15:30:20 · answer #8 · answered by ? 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Of course, there is no hell. Hell, guilt, sin -- all concepts of our ego thought system that we project onto god. When jesus came and taught unconditional love, people didn't like it -- just like they don't like this post of mine. And so they attacked him and changed his message. If there were really a god that sent people to hell, then I wouldn't want ANYTHING to do with him - I'd rather suffer in hell for eternity than worship a judgemental sadist that puts people there. Better to be in hell than with that horrible atrocity that some call god.
2006-07-21 15:25:45 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
I always preferred to believe that all relationship in life are non-existent in heaven. You know the "death do us part" thing. Well, we died....
I bet alot of people are really embarrassed to find out that they have 12 wives from previous lives.
2006-07-21 15:28:24 · answer #10 · answered by broxolm 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I would try to write them everyday or at least call them once a week
to let them know what they were missing. I would definitely not be snide about my position but would probably remind them of the sacrifices I made to get here.
2006-07-21 15:27:33 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋