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The vast majority of Illegals work in construction!

Is this work that is unwanted by Americans?

The second largest is in restaurants.

Is this unwanted work?

I know that restaurant is the usual job for high school and college age young adults!

Then we have Hotels.
Unwanted?

Daycare (IN HOME) and that usually is more costly than day care centers!
unwanted?

Migrant farm work (now the SMLLEST section of identifiable employment for illegals)
Unwanted? wel NO! Illegals make up less than 1/2 of those workers, so who makes up the other 50+%?

Must be legal people so I guess that job is wanted too!

Any other lies, Mr. and Mrs. pro-crime?

2006-07-21 13:51:31 · 23 answers · asked by athorgarak 4 in Politics & Government Immigration

23 answers

The truth is that illegals are taking good jobs, or what used to be good paying jobs, from Americans. Ask anyone who used to work in the construction, hotel or restaurant industries and they’ll tell you quite a different story than what is being portrayed. Are there some jobs that Americans in general are not as willing to do? Yes. Do these require twelve to eighteen million illegal immigrants, and millions of more legal immigrants, to fill? Of course not.

One could even make the argument that there is no such thing as low income jobs filled by illegal immigrants. They are really subsidized income jobs with the US taxpayer picking up the tab. The scope of the societal costs from such a poorly paid and sometimes exploited workforce is overwhelming. You, the taxpayer, pay tens of billions for entitlements to these tens of millions and their families. This includes food stamps, public housing, Medicaid, Social Security, Supplemental Security Income, Earned Income Tax Credit, public schooling, the WIC program, food stamps, and Temporary Assistance to Needy Families.

Removing illegal immigrants from the work force would only raise wages, relieve an overwhelming economic burden on the welfare, correctional, medical and educational systems, lower the unemployment rate, and force a few people to clean their own pools or mow their own grass until they could find an enterprising teenager to do it for them. To act as if our national economy could not survive without an additional three million ‘undocumented workers’ a year is simply ridiculous and a red herring argument at best. For those who make the arguments that open borders are ‘needed’ the question is really on their shoulders as to how many millions of illegal immigrants do they think we really need. I’ve yet to receive a straight answer to that question.
"Of 473 job categories studied by the Center for Immigration Studies for the year 2004, only four – plasters and stucco masons, dressmakers and sewers, agricultural graders and sorters, and miscellaneous personal appearance workers – had a majority of immigrant workers, and only 23 out of 473 job categories (less than 5 percent) had 33 percent or more. More to the point, every single kind of work done by illegal aliens in this country is also performed by Americans.

One of the reasons some jobs are increasingly being taken over by illegals is because they will accept jobs for lower pay. When a construction worker loses a $15 an hour job to an illegal worker who will do it for $8.50, that is not an example of a poor work ethic by Americans."

2006-07-21 13:57:36 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

I will ignore the name-calling and focus on the actual claim, that illegal workers are taking jobs that other Americans could be doing. First off, just because some of the workers in an industry are legal residents does not mean that we would be able to fill the positions with other legal residents. The fact that 1/2 of the farm workers are citizens or legal residents suggests that there are only enough citizens and legal residents to fill about half of the positions. The other citizens are working in other professions. Which means we must either (1) consume less produce, (2) fill the vacant positions with other (undocumented) workers.

The June 2006 unemployment rate was only 4.6%; the lowest it's been since 1970 is 3.9% for the last few months of 2000 [1]. There's always going to be some small level of frictional unemployment, as laid-off workers look for new jobs, or as workers "trade up" to better positions. So there really aren't that many people available to take those jobs.

Second, you're making huge generalizations. Again, just because some citizens are willing to do that work does not mean that we could find enough citizens to satisfy America's needs. Sure, there are good jobs in the restaurant industry, but many of the jobs occupied by illegal aliens are minimum-wage positions washing dishes or flipping burgers. And yes, those positions are often filled by teens and young adults, but the fact is that there simply aren't _enough_ teens and young adults to fill those positions. A fast food employee typically stays for three to four months at one job, then moves on [2]. More and more, young people are avoiding the food-service industry because of the low status and backbreaking labor; who then will fill those positions?

Replacing every job held by an illegal immigrant would require shifting millions of people, both geographically and in terms of skills and trades. Your suggestion that these are wanted and needed jobs overlooks the fact that there are not armies of unemployed citizens sitting at home, waiting for a position to come open and cursing the illegal immigrants who took the hotel maid jobs that they've wanted for so long.

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Aaron

2006-07-21 21:57:54 · answer #2 · answered by Rondo 3 · 0 0

No...the work is not unwanted. It wanted but at a wage higher then the Illegals are willing to do it for. John McCain asked if someone would pick lettuce in an Arizona field for 50 buck an hour.....I would do it in a heartbeat. So thats what its all about. Its a bunch of greedy profit minded people putting fellow americans out of work to hire Illegals. Lose your job to an Illegal and see if you still say the same thing.

2006-07-21 20:59:04 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

If the illegals left the country it would not come to halt it might be the best thing to have ever happen. All these companies would be forced to pay a decent living wage to the people already here. Illegals only do these jobs at a pay rate so low no American can support his or her own family on it. I see Americans doing the jobs illegals swear up and down no American will do every day. It's not a valid arguement it's only a myth !! Thats reality

2006-07-21 21:36:10 · answer #4 · answered by Zoe 4 · 0 0

All good points...I've worked many years in the construction trades in Calif. and have watched as most of America's highest paying blue collar jobs go to illegals...As for jobs Americans don't want & won't do? How about giving all those jobs to the mentally & physically disabled so they can earn a living on thier own, gain self-respect & get off social services paid for by taxpayers? And before anyone jumps on my back, keep in mind, I'm a 48 y/o, single, father of a 2 y/o son, born with "organic brain damage" due to his mother drinking during pregnancy and he's already on Social Security & Medi-Cal for the rest of his life...

2006-07-21 21:12:06 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

you are absolutely right....back in the 80's a good house could make 25$ per hour or more...because of the illegals willing to work for so cheap it has come down to 8$ per hour in some areas....now of course a person would never do this for that amount of money...therefore they say that most people dont want these jobs...duh...of coarse not...we would take the jobs if it paid a descent wage....so therefore they've ruined the entire construction trade unless you work for the government....Last year just the state of Oregon paid out 177$million in medical and school grants and other things for imigrants...and maybe even more...aaaahhhh...dont get me started...im so frustrated over this...

2006-07-21 21:06:17 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Wow you are so funny, you are fighting for jobs that always paid minimum wage, even before the waves of illegal migration. Dude if you think like that, apparently your goal in life is to become head of custodian. Honestly, I think they should get paid more than that, remember illegals were not the one that asked for the low wages, they were given to them. So if you are complaining about those unwanted jobs, be my guest they are always hiring to clean floors, cut yard, clean restrooms, etc...but you are just upset because the government crunked all the dumb a$$es to keep focus away from high fuel prices....

2006-07-22 05:11:46 · answer #7 · answered by sexxy cuban77 2 · 0 0

If the estimated illegals (10-12 million) left our country, it would be grinded to a halt. We need to find way to socialize and recognize these individuals. They have the responsibility to learn to speak English and adopt American customs.

2006-07-21 20:56:46 · answer #8 · answered by The Big Shot 6 · 0 0

The work is not unwanted: the slobs who are too lazy to learn English ARE, however. Go back to your craphole South of the border.

2006-07-21 21:23:55 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Why did the unemployment office exist before the Mexicans came if all the jobs were taken?

2006-07-22 04:48:52 · answer #10 · answered by Mariposa 7 · 0 0

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