I agree. It is an insult to those who came to this country
legally.Hey, if the IRS can collect taxes from millions of Americans, there is a way we can deport the12 million illegals.
2006-07-21 13:24:13
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answered by rjm96 4
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The Third Provision Or HR4437 States
"Anyone or any organization
who “assists” an individual without documentation “
to reside in or remain” in the United States
knowingly or with “reckless disregard”
as to the individual’s legal status
would be liable for criminal penalties
and five years in prison.
This could include church personnel
who provide shelter or other basic needs assistance
to an undocumented individual.
Property used in this act
be subject to seizure and forfeiture."
http://www.justiceforimmigrants.org/HR4437.html
If Congress were to pass a law that said, quite simply,
that the CEO of any business
that was caught employing ILLEGAL ALIENS
went to jail for 5 Years
And FORFEIT All His Assets
NO EXCEPTIONS -
Or (Alternative) In Other Words
If Our ALREADY ENACTED LAWS Were Upheld
And Agressively ENFORCED
( SAVE The Reformation
The LAWS Are In Place
ENFORCE Them )
Then within a month there would be ten million
(more or less)
people lined up at the Mexican border
trying to get out of the United States
And Back To Whatever Country They Came From.
Sensenbrenner KNEW What He Was Doing
When He Wrote This Bill
Dont Forget About.....
Push HR4437
No Other Legislation Is Necessary
That BILL Is NOT Dead Yet
2006-07-22 01:42:59
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answered by Anonymous
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You mean 1 year....
And.. no, local police really don't have jurisdiction to do such a thing. That would also be covered by local city and state expenses.. which should be covered by the federal sector.
Yes, it would be hard.. But, it's not impossible.
For 1) Govt. downsizes statistics 26%.. given the situation. I know-- cus I worked with the govt. in foreign embassy's with ambassadors and consulates.
Which means the figure is closer to 70 million. So.. no, 1 year is out the window... Try 5 to 6 years.
Deporting illegals will not happen. It should happen-- but it won't. Doing so will cost.. hundreds of millions, if not billions to hundreds of billions to do so.
However, no matter what the cost, we should note, that it'll be greater in the long run.
2006-07-21 20:47:14
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answered by stealth_n700ms 4
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No one counted 12 million illegal immigrants. It is a statistical estimate. Maybe if they were counted then the counters could tell us where they live. That is not the case. Is it really worth the money to deport everyone anyway?
These people are keeping life good for you and everyone else whether you want to admit it or not. If you deport them all, others will fill the jobs they left. But not for the chump change they work for. The boss will have to pay them more, which he will then offset to you.
The extra money you will be paying in services and goods is far more than the extra money coming out of your taxes to support those illegals who take advantage of our social services without paying taxes.
We need to think of solutions other than deporting...
2006-07-21 20:30:30
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answered by Thunder Dan 2
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Yes it would be difficult. It's not just a matter of finding one illegal per month. First, we're talking about twelve million people, or 4% of the U.S. population. That's a massive number of people, and they provide a massive amount of labor to the U.S. economy. Although illegals cost America $10 billion per year, this is because most illegals work low-paying jobs without health benefits; in fact, if these people were all legalized, they would then cost about $29 billion per year, because they'd then qualify for federal programs.
From the findings of a 2004 study on illegal immigration:
"With nearly two-thirds of illegal aliens lacking a high school degree, the primary reason they create a fiscal deficit is their low education levels and resulting low incomes and tax payments, not their legal status or heavy use of most social services." [1]
To illustrate: picture if you will, Mike and Dan. Mike was born in Delaware, and has lived here his whole life. Dan moved here from the U.K. on a student visa three years ago, and illegally stayed after dropping out of school. They both work at Big*Mart as stockers, earning the same wage. Mike actually costs the government more because he qualifies for public assistance programs that Dan does not.
Second, the U.S. takes on about 700,000-850,000 illegal immigrants every year [2]. Without tightening border security and enforcing visa restrictions, we'd never be "relatively illegal free," as you suggest.
Also, there are political factors to consider. Some illegal immigrants stay and have families, and those children are American citizens because they were born on American soil. Do you recall the outcry surrounding the decision to send Elian Gonzales back to his father in Cuba? Imagine repeating that scene several million times. Also, not every illegal immigrant is Mexican. They do represent the largest group of immigrants, legal and otherwise, but Canadians take second place. If we deport millions of Latinos, but don't cast even a momentary glance at the illegal Canadians, how would that look in the eyes of the world media? Politicians are concerned about keeping their jobs, and deporting 5% of America would be disastrous, no matter how they tried to pull it off.
Finally, illegal immigrants are much harder to find than you propose. They're undocumented, meaning that most of them don't have credit cards, mortgages, and other records to help police trace them. They could reside anywhere from San Diego to Minneapolis, working in any industry and living in any neighborhood. Finding illegal aliens may be easy at first; visit a few farms and construction sites, check for visas, and ship a few people off. Have police departments contact the feds if they arrest an illegal immigrant for some other crime. That should net a few thousand people. But then there are the people who aren't working in "typical" immigrant vocations, living in "typical" immigrant neighborhoods. They're just living life peacefully like everybody else, having committed no crime other than entering this country. How should we find them? Door-to-door searches? Secret police? Surprise ID checks? I, for one, am not willing to give up my privacy and my freedom so that police can arrest and deport somebody who's not causing any harm.
2006-07-21 21:21:38
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answered by Rondo 3
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I'm in agreement with Lucky2balive. In fact, if we crack down on the employers everywhere in the USA, it is only a short matter of time before a lot of the illegals would self-deport, costing nothing in deportation costs. Also, cut illegals off of access to all social benefits, schools and medical at ERs. And get rid of the out-dated, archaic anchor baby loophole.
2006-07-22 01:17:08
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answered by Daisy 6
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The problem is not grabbing them, it's getting around the legal challenges the ACLU would throw up. These people are illegals, but the Commie ACLU wants to give all the legal protections of someone born in Tulsa, OK.
2006-07-21 20:26:30
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answered by christopher s 5
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There is no question that it CAN be done, but there would be consequences, including the reaction of ourselves as the 'good sort' were deported en masse over a period of a number of years. I don't know if we are sufficiently steeled for that, to be honest.
2006-07-21 20:57:29
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answered by DAR 7
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Imagine more people then the states of Kansas, Arkansas, North Dakota and Wyoming and Alaska.
Now does it seem hard to you?
mike
2006-07-21 20:41:34
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answered by miketyson26 5
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its to late, we should of defended the border a long time ago, look what happened now.... What we should do is the get the national guard or and the local law informent to go around houses, ask for there papers, if they got none. DEPORTEDED. a recent magazine i read that 76% of crimes in americas were caused by,illgeals !!!!
2006-07-21 20:24:12
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answered by B 4
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