God is perfect.
God deliberately created the universe
Perfection entails the lack of needs or wants
Being perfect, God does not now nor ever has nor ever will have any needs or wants.
Deliberate creation entails an effort to satisfy some need or want.
Being a creator, God at one time had some need or want. It is impossible to have some need or want and also to never have any need or want.
Conclusion: God, if it exists, is either not perfect or has not created anything.
If God is perfect, then God can’t have any needs or wants; hence, God wouldn’t bother
2006-07-21 10:53:15 · 9 answers · asked by Mr. Mojo Risin 3 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
So not only is God not perfect, she must have a sick fetish for torturing people. Otherwise, why would she create people who live anyplace other than Europe or America, since those people are not likely to believe in her?
2006-07-21 10:58:28 · answer #1 · answered by Minh 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Your "logic" is full of holes. You took insupportable steps in claiming that perfection entails the lack of needs or wants, and that deliberate creation entails an effort to satisfy some need or want. God has Will; not want. A being that fit your faulty definition of "perfection" would be incapable of making a choice or, indeed, of doing anything at all. And what was that scrap of carelessness at the end: "God wouldn't bother"? Presumptuous of you to second-guess Him.
2006-07-21 18:08:23 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
I think your definitions limit your answers.
"Perfection entails the lack of needs or wants."
What if God "wanted" to display His glory...
and besides, God isn't perfect. God is God...He is wholly unique in His being.
There are some things He cannot do:
1. He cannot be evil,
"God is Light (good), and in Him there is no darkness(evil) at all."
I John 1:5
Look at the context for light and darkness as good and evil.
2.There are several "logical" problems that cannot be.
e.g.-Can God create a rock so big He can't lift it. No. Then how is He God?
these don't really prove anything except that you can play games with logic.
conclusion: God isn't trying to be perfect. God is God. "I AM THAT I AM.-Exodus 3:14
Creation is meant for you to see God in it. It is there to display His glory...even things no human will ever see.
e.g.-There are fish in the deepest depths of the ocean, that no human, can see or appreciate (we have pictures from diving robots) that are majestic in their beauty...ones with little dangling lights on their heads...stuff like that. Just so God can appreciate His own glory. God loves God more than anything else.
2006-07-21 18:08:05 · answer #3 · answered by mr. tolbert 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
While you make a good effort, I'm not sure we can justify the following : "Perfection entails the lack of needs or wants."
Does perfection really entail a lack of need or want ... a lack of desire? I think we need additional evidence to satisfy this portion of the argument.
2006-07-21 18:03:00 · answer #4 · answered by Arkangyle 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I made a comment on a similar "question" earlier. You can string together any number of statements and come to a conclusion...that will not render that conclusion true.
If you want to understand God's true nature, and I mean this in all friendship...please open the bible and read. It will be revealed to you there.
Best wishes.
2006-07-21 17:59:15 · answer #5 · answered by christian_lady_2001 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
If God can do anything then He can create a desire that will only be fulfilled through his creation.
2006-07-21 17:58:28 · answer #6 · answered by foxray43 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
To want is not the same as to need.
God wants us to be with Him in our eternal life.
Since God "wants"... he wanted to create the word... his purpose?, to magnify His Glory... he doesn't need our prays...but he wants them...
As you said: "He is perfect", he doesn't need anything from anybody... but He wants to save us...
I hope this short message could help a little...
TschüÃ!!!
2006-07-21 18:04:36 · answer #7 · answered by stamitz_jr 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
God is not limited by time or space like we are, nor by our feeble (and disordered) intellects.
2006-07-21 17:58:06 · answer #8 · answered by Shaun T 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Good logic, pass the bong
2006-07-21 18:00:59 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋