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if it doesent then why do you insist on codemning people? obviously it must give you some sort of warped felling of accomplishment. a sort of "those who dont think like me can BURN! MUAHAHAHAH!" kind of thing.

why do you inist on codemning good people to a place where they will be eternally tortured? is that what your religion honestly teches? that those who are different shall be in eternal pain?

and you WANT people to convert to your religion? is it me or is that perpetuating hatred and bigotry?

explain yourselves.

2006-07-21 08:40:33 · 45 answers · asked by johnny_zondo 6 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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2006-07-21 08:49:06 · update #1

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johnny_zondo, why does it give you pleasure to make sweeping generalizations about large groups of people?

2006-07-21 08:42:15 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

First, you are being as bad as a racist. You are lumping all christians into one group and elluding that we all condemn non-christians to hell. That is not the case.

For the ones that do, all I can say is don't let a few bad apple ruin the bunch. The christians that you are thinking of, are the bible-thumping, fundementalists who go around saying "If you do not believe you will burn in Hell."

To me, that is judging someone, and I won't do it. I will point out things in the Bible.

God has said that all have sinned and fall short of his glory. Which means that everyone is a sinner, there is no one who is good, perfect and does everything right.

This also means that there is no way to reach God. We have sinned and we must pay for those sins. Everyone, even me.

Think about this, its like getting caught doing 125mph in a school zone. We're screwed, there's nothing we can do, we have to pay for what we did. We get to court to be sentenced, and find that our Father is the judge. He has a job to do, the law is crystal clear, we violated it and we must be punished. We are given our sentence, the fine, everything and our Father raps the gavel, hammering home the point.

Then he steps down from the bench, takes our hand and walks with us to the clerk. There he pulls out his wallet and begins to pay the fine and bail.

That's what God did for us. We've sinned, we violated the law. He sentenced us, but then he did something that shows just how much he loves us. He came down and HE paid the price for our sin.

That's what Christianity is about. God's love for us.

2006-07-21 08:50:55 · answer #2 · answered by Darius 3 · 0 0

I haven't read every answer word for word, but the general idea I'm getting from people is that they feel they're *warning* not *condemning*. I personally don't believe there is a Hell, so you've never heard condemnation from this Christian. I forgive your sweeping generalization. ;-)

I'm also curious to know why the people who "warn" everyone about Hell don't just quit talking about Hell altogether and focus on what you DO want. You want everyone to go to Heaven? Then tell people how to get there. Tell them how God has made your life better and then if they choose to follow your example, fantastic. That's one more for Heaven. If they choose to stay on their misguided path, that's their choice. LET IT BE!! Pray for them, be kind to them, and accept that you have done what you can. But when you throw out your "warning" about Hell you're only perpetuating the stereotype that all Christians are pushy, hypocritical, and self-righteous.

~~~EDIT~~~
I just read Darius's answer... he's got the right idea. I love the courtroom analogy! I'll be using that one when I have "discussions" with my fundamentalist buddies. Thanks!!

2006-07-21 09:11:57 · answer #3 · answered by browneyedgirl 4 · 0 0

Some people forget what kind of Spirit they have been adopted into. They forget what Christ was really all about. Too much John 3:16 not enough John 3:17.

Christ came not to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. John 3:17

2006-07-21 08:45:45 · answer #4 · answered by kimplicated1 2 · 0 0

It's really sad how many Christians incorrectly communicate the purpose of hell and who it's for. I cringe when Christians use hell as a scare tactic or a way of cursing someone they don't like.

When analyzed from a purely biblical perspective it's clear God created us with the intention that we would be able to "hang out with him" but because of Sin this is no longer possible (yes anything is possible with GOD, but he's a GOD of rules, so if he set a rule he won't break it)

So because we all sin at some point, and because one of the rules God set is the freedom of our own choices, God can't force us to fix the sin problem. We have to choose to. While we're here on earth we're kind of in a holding pattern to give us a chance to choose to fix the sin problem by choosing to try to follow Christ instead of our own desires. For the people who make this choice, then sin problem is fixed and they can go to their natural environment, which is in the presence of God.

Those who don't choose to have the sin problem fixed are unable to be in the presence of God, so they have to Go to hell, which unlike this world has no interaction or connection with God at all.

So as it's clear from the explanation no true Christian would want someone to go to hell. And sin is for the bad or the good, just the “unrepaired”. We’re all broken and it doesn’t matter how broken we are just whether or not we have the desire to be fixed and recognize Jesus Christ is the only one who can do that. Not even God "sends" people to hell. Hell is just the directly result of separation from God when we pass into eternity, and Separation from God is the direct result of sin. All of these things are our choice, because God gave use freedom of choice (free will).

2006-07-21 08:52:48 · answer #5 · answered by Dane_62 5 · 0 0

It's not only christians-every religion brings out the worst in people, sooner or later. Muslims for example are the worst creatures right about now...and that might offend you but it's ok since you are above religions...I hope. Or are you just anti-christianity? You can't support one religion and hate another-you're either crazy and believe or smart and don't believe. As for hate and bigotry and condemnation to fire ask Iranian president why is he insisting his people be burned by Israeli nukes? Really, is it his religion or his brains? Does he have a christian advisor or something? PS I'm not jew but jews kind of keep quiet about their religious paranoia and that's why I like them. Keep it to yourself and you're my friend.

2006-07-21 08:50:39 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

It doesn't give me pleasure to think people are going to hell for their unbelief, it saddens me. But I get grief for that viewpoint too. Our religion teaches that if you don't accept Jesus as your savior and believe He is The Son of God himself, you will go to hell. And we strongly believe that. I think most Christians want to get the point across that hell is very real and no joke and that you should try to get right with The Lord before it is too late. And other Christians can't condemn anyone, only God. Don't you think more of yourself, than a speck in the universe, that just lives a little while and dies and that is it? Don't you feel that your life is more than that? God Bless

2006-07-21 08:50:13 · answer #7 · answered by luvnlvn 3 · 0 0

Hell was invented to scare the "hell" out of children and thus make them obey. It worked so well that when the children grew up (relatively speaking) they began to use it on each other. It was like Santa Claus in that some people never stopped believing in it.

It's not to make people convert so much as it is to control as many people as possible. The ideal is to have a theocracy result so all the upper echelon people can wear funny hats.

2006-07-21 08:50:10 · answer #8 · answered by Grist 6 · 0 0

But I don't do that. Sorry. Also, I think "hatred" and "bigotry" are now buzzwords, like "racist" and "homophobe." There are certain terms that people use to avoid arguments, because if one is accused of being such no one listens to you. You have to explain what about your preceeding sentences constituted "bigotry" before you accuse an entire group of it. An undeserved mass generalization, on the other hand, would in fact be bigoted.

2006-07-21 08:44:31 · answer #9 · answered by RandyGE 5 · 0 0

I see where your coming from, but before you think I'm agreeing with you let me Finnish. "Christians" is putting a LOT of people in a big generalized group and we all know it's wrong to accuse the innocent right? I've gone to church ALL my life and I believe EVERYONE chance to escape Hell. But your right... a LOT of Christians feel like it's there responsibility to tell other people how God will "GET THEM" whenever they do something the Christian in question thinks is wrong. I suppose to answer your question no it might not give them pleasure to send Every one off to a fiery hole cackling all the while, but I guess somewhere along the line the word Christian got to there heads and they decided they could speak for God because he cant handle it himself.

2006-07-21 08:57:19 · answer #10 · answered by Just Kidding 1 · 0 0

Although there's a broad generalization you'd better review I must admit that my fellow sisters and brothers in the US are more pro-hell than anything else. Why? I think that "we" (this is a self-critical language) invented hell to kill people without spilling their blood all over our conscience (if we still have any after the most recent Bush crusades).
However, it may be good for your sanity to admit that Christians are not a monolithic herd (and neither are Muslims). There are lots of debate between us (and between them).

2006-07-21 08:48:13 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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