1st Q. Is HEaven a perfect place?

Question

We know that there was a war in Heaven.
We know that some angels were democrats and did not wanted to bow before men.
The Question is how we even consider the idea that heaven is a such good place.
So at first heaven was not such a good and than GOD rebuild heaven and now for eternity there will be no war or anything bad? Than what does Heaven means if it was not created perfect. Don’t start with free will or that Lucifer was arrogant or what ever. I am asking how Heaven in its own definition of only and the only good could have something that was not perfect. Than who may guarantee that it will never happened again. Who can claim that god will never turn heaven into hell. If I am correct GOD build Heaven way before he create first angel, and I guess than heaven was such a good place but got improved trough the history?

Hey, This Q is for Christians, no need non-bleivers to answer.
I am agnostic i don't buy the story either i just wander what's their opinon in heaven and i don't think they will deny that war was in heaven.

Answer 1

1st response. heaven, if i understand what the christians are saying, is a place where they will worship (grovel) at gods feet for all of eternity.

so logically......no.

the only perfect place (if only it existed) would be a Star Trek Holodeck.

Answer 2

Sounds like you have done some asking around on this before....
Heaven, is a spiritural realm. It isn't a physical place that you can pinpoint on a map or anything. It is a perfect place, however, being the realm of God and his heavenly creatures the Angels.
I have to ask you...where do you get that God rebuilt heaven? Do you mean, in 1914, at the end of the Gentile times as predicted in Daniel, Satan and his hordes were cast out of Heaven? That was a thorough cleansing aof it, and they are no longer allowed to com ean d go as they pleased, like they could before. Now, heaven is clean and accepting the resurrected ones that have been annointed as chosen ones to rule with Christ for a time in Heaven. Why would you think it wasn't such a great place? Seems like every 'christian' religion wants people to go there. Personally, *I'll stick to the truth of what the Bible promises and hold out my hope for life eternal here on the earth in a paradise.
As far as any guarantee that another angel will do as Satan the Devil did, in being once a beautiful angel and then turning completely the opposite and becoming the monster spiritual creature he is now, There IS a guarantee. Jehovah himself has told us in the Bible that , after Armeggedon, there will be a time when Satan and his band of demons will be chained and stilled for 1000 years. Then after mankind that is allowed to live in peace without his horrible influence and to learn of Jehovah's blessings, promises and will, they will be released for 'a short time'. Those that chose to follow them then will be destroyed, Yes, in a lake of fire ( a symbol used to convey complete and utter destruction. ) Satan will also be destroyed. THIS will put to rest forever the question that brought all of this to the be in the first place.... the question of whether or not Jehovah God has the right to rule the universe.
After all... HE made it, why shouldn't he rule it? Why shouldn't he want his creations to worship him, and not out of fear of what he would do if they DON"T, but out of the love that they feel for him for doing such a wonderful thing for them?
I worship Jehovah God out of love for him. I am legally blind, but everyday I thank him for the marvelous colors I can see and the things that I DO get to see. Wait til he makes my vision perfect!! I'll probably faint out of joy!!fwop, right there on the ground. LOL I wouldn't want to worship a god for fear of what he would do if iI DON"T, but rather, I worship my god our of the love for what he has done for me just by creating me and this great planet we live on. Smell some daisies or some pansies, you'll understand my reasoning afterwards.

Answer 3

Heaven is not a place that we as humans reside. From there is where the Creatour rules and where God-JHVH dwells. At Matt. 6:10: “Let your kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also upon earth.” Furthermore, as Paul states: “Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God"-1 Cor.15:50.
We must keep in mind that Jesus came out of the invisible, higher spirit realms into the visible, lower earthly or fleshly realms. This was why he said to the Jews: “You are from the realms below; I am from the realms above. You are from this world; I am not from this world.” (John 8:23)

However, our home is right here on earth: Ps. 37:29: “The righteous themselves will possess the earth, and they will reside forever upon it.” Therefore our planet earth is always going to be there.
(Ecclesiastes 1:4) "4 A generation is going, and a generation is coming; but the earth is standing even to time indefinite."
(Psalm 104:5) "He has founded the earth upon its established places; It will not be made to totter to time indefinite, or forever."

When our Creatour: Jehovah God created the earth & every thing, to him 'it was good'. (Gen.1:9-13) Why would he destroy the earth then? Think please, if Adam & Eve did not sin and rebel against God, would they have eventually taken up to heaven? No. Rather as express in Genesis they were to 'Be fruitful and become many and fill the earth and subdue it."-Gen.1:28.

Proverbs 2:21, 22, KJ: “The upright shall dwell in the land [“on earth,” NE], and the perfect [“blameless men,” NE] shall remain in it. But the wicked shall be cut off from the earth, and the transgressors shall be rooted out of it.” (Notice that it does not say the blameless will return to the earth but that they “shall remain in it.”)

Has God's original purpose for the earth changed?

Gen. 1:27, 28: “God proceeded to create the man in his image, in God’s image he created him; male and female he created them. Further, God blessed them and God said to them: ‘Be fruitful and become many and fill the earth and subdue it, and have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and every living creature that is moving upon the earth.’”
(Thus God indicated his purpose to have the earth filled with the offspring of Adam and Eve as caretakers of a global paradise. After God had magnificently designed this earth for human habitation, making it unique among all the planets that man has examined with his telescopes and spaceships, did the Creator simply abandon his purpose, leaving it forever unfulfilled because of Adam’s sin?)

Isa. 45:18: “This is what Jehovah has said, the Creator of the heavens, He the true God, the Former of the earth and the Maker of it, He the One who firmly established it, who did not create it simply for nothing, who formed it even to be inhabited: ‘I am Jehovah, and there is no one else.’” (See also Isaiah 55:10, 11.)

Answer 4

your beliefs are based on books written by man which are fraudulant created by the roman catholic church to intrap the masses and releve them of their money and the scam still works to this day.
God is real religon is man made.the vatican is corrupt thats why they have a pope that was a nazi youth in hitlers hate machine.
It's all about money. stop giving them money and see how long religon sticks around!


Heaven is another earth like planet with beautiful red and green ruby and garnet stone homes and people dont have the capacity to argue or hate or be negative only love share and enjoy life every thing is provided devinely and the people are a true joy to be with.

Answer 5

Heaven and hell is the figment of our imagination.

The way a saintly person will define heaven will be the state of no suffering

Hell is what we all live thru ,not because of our environment,neighbors,boss,spouse etc,but because of our untrained mind which judges events as good and bad.

Stop judging and you will see heaven in this mortal body

Answer 6

Heaven is a perfect place because there is no sin there and because God is there. God is perfect; therefore, he would never dwell in a place that is not perfect.

Answer 7

Heaven only exists in the mind of ignorant people. Educate yourself. Take a look at this site. It will open your eyes.

http://www.godisimaginary.com

Answer 8

Heaven is a place with stuff you've never imagine.. , we just know them my name..
It's perfect in a way that you can never picture..

Answer 9

Of course heaven is the perfect place that exists and of course GOD exist, ask your self ho created you!!! AND IN HEAVEN NO WAR EXISTED!!!!!!!

Answer 10

Heaven does not exist.