Why do people always ask "can it be proven if u are real" when sum1 questions the existence of God..?

Question

That really grinds my Gears LMAO
(You get the joke if u watch Family Guy)

Example:

me: Can it be proven that God is real?

random person: can it be proven that you are real?

Answer 1

Grind their gears back by asking them to prove the nonexistence of God. I agree with jp.

Answer 2

You are not supposed to question God's authority or exsistence because any rightful human would have the sense to know he is real and find the belief even when all the "facts" pointing to him being fake. God can be proven that he is real by your own beliefs and the fact that some many people throughout history have experienced things and stuff with Jesus and God. People back when Jesus was around, so many claimed to be god's son, or the 'one'. That he pursued his beliefs because no matter what everyone else said, he knew who and what he was and what was right, and what was wrong. Jesus shed his blood for us and many in their own way have shed their blood for him. But if God is not real then who created us? We had to have a start, and we have to have an end. People who don't believe in God or Jesus need to see that guidance if maybe they prayed or asked for his forgiveness in prayer, that maybe one day they will realize that all the while they were out somewhere protesting, saying mean things about him, that all along their path God and Jesus where walking besides them and guiding them because God and Jesus will forgive anything or anyone, mostly. But for God or even Jesus to be proven, we need to look not just at knowledge, facts, studies, and people's beliefs, but look at all the things that God has sent down to earth or showed us to prove he is real, and leaving nothing but what he has taught us throughout time, and a choice. Basically, you either believe in him or you don't because you only get one chance in life, and who do you think gave you the privilege to live on such a beautiful planet? God. So in times when you see or finally believe, just know he will always be real and that is why someone people have bibles, artifacts, and objects to remind us in our daily lives that he is always real and lives in each and everyone of our hearts....

Answer 3

maybe they do it TO grind your gears...or because they've heard the "can you prove it" question so many times( usually followed by a reference to some dead german philosopher or a misspelled juvenile rant) that it's like listening to your kids repeating 'are we there yet? are we there yet?' for 500 miles...is Family Guy still on? never actually seen it...

Answer 4

I am real here in the flesh where is he and has anyone seen him lately

Answer 5

the existance of god is very deniable so we do have to argue about it. (had to balance it out)

Answer 6

the existence of God is undeniable, we dont have to argue about it ,

Answer 7

Nowadays, we often hear preachers say that the church and religion are no longer important because, what matters, according to them, is relationship with our Lord Jesus Christ. And via this relationship with Christ, man would become worthy in the sight of God. They also claim that the church could not save a man.

If you are a keen student of the Bible, you would readily discern that such are claims and beliefs of impertinent people, those who have a very obscure understanding of the Bible. Of course, the church per se could not really save a man. But why is the church necessary? In the first place, is it needed or not?

If we will only exercise logic and common sense, we will not be misled. By using our common sense, let us see for ourselves if the church is needed. Common sense tells me that if it is not important, then, our Lord Jesus should not have established it! If the church is not needed, it would appear that our Lord Jesus Christ does not exercise common sense. Why build a church when it is not needed after all? It is just like installing a post, or a pillar that did not reach up to the roof. Of what use is that pillar if that is the case? If it is unnecessary you better discard it, otherwise, your head might just bump into it. If you insist in having it there, that is a proof of your lack of common sense.

But let us find out from the Bible if a man has any need for the church. And if the church is needed, should we make ourselves a part of that church? What do the Born Again pastors mean when they said that the church could not save a man? Actually, that is how they entice people from joining their “fellowship,” or “crusade,” or “ministry”. If we are going to ask the Bible about the importance of the church, which was established by Christ during the first century AD, the Bible will answer us truthfully. Do we have to join the church, or do we just have to ignore it? Is there a truth to the common belief that so long as a man prays fervently and he is not doing anything wrong to his fellowmen, regardless of your religious affiliation, he would still be saved? Is it in accordance to the will of God? This is what Deuteronomy 12:5 says--

“But unto the place which the LORD your God shall choose out of all your tribes to put his name there, even unto his habitation shall ye seek, thither thou shalt come.”

Where are we supposed to go, according to the Lord God? The Bible says that--

“unto the place which the Lord your God shall choose…”

Who shall choose the place? God, of course! Did He give any specific directive? Did God give His consent that we can go anywhere? No! There is no sense if you will just go anywhere. It would appear that you are the god because, despite His directive, you still go where you want to go.

If your son tells you that he will go wherever he wants to because he is already 10 years old, will you give him your consent? Actually, even if your son or daughter is already in his/her age of reason, you still would not let your children go wherever they want to because you love them. But greater is the love of God to all of us that is why He would not permit us to be just anywhere. Being a God of justice, He will not allow you to go anywhere you want. What the Bible says is clear--

“unto the place which the LORD your God shall choose out of all your tribes to put his name there, even unto his habitation shall ye seek, thither thou shalt come.”

Let me give you an example. For a time, Adam and Eve served God. They were not bad in the beginning. And while they were in service to God, they were kept safe in a place chosen by god, and that was the Garden of Eden. Gen. 2:8, 15 says--

“And the LORD God planted a garden eastward of Eden ... And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden ...”

Did you see where God intended man to live? Spiritually, physically, and biologically speaking, God wanted man to live where plants grow abundantly. For the man of God to be healthy, Adam was put in a place chosen by God. He did not place him in an environment that would be hostile to him like the Sahara desert. And neither did He place him in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. Adam was meant to be taken care of by God in the Garden of Eden. There was a specific place that God assigned for Adam – the garden. And there, he could freely eat the fruits of the plants except the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

In other words, during the duration of Adam’s service to the Lord, he stayed in the place where God wanted him to be. But when Adam and Eve transgressed, they were sent out of the Garden of Eden.Genesis 3:23 says--

“Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden ...”

This means that the Garden of Eden is a place of obedience. If you disobey, you will be thrown out. And it is after God has thrown you out that you can go wherever you want to. You can now be a vagabond like Cain. You can now go wherever you please because you refuse to be taken care of by God. You see, God has an administration over man, and Adam and Eve used to be under God’s direct administration when they were still in the Garden of Eden. But after their transgression, they were sent away. It is very important that we realize this. This truth could also be reflected in the “Pasyon” of the Catholics:


“Sapagka’t pastor kang tunay
Nitong mundong kabilugan
Ang obehang sino pa man
Kung di masok sa bakuran
Hindi mo masasakupan.



(Because you’re the real pastor)
(Of this world)
(And whosoever refuses)
(To enter your domain)
(Will be outside your administration)


Therefore, there is a specified place of dominion. So, who was the god who taught you that you can be wherever you want to be? Definitely, he is not the God of the Bible. He is just the god invented by greedy pastors who crave for your money. They are bringing people anywhere. See if they are not really craving for your money. One pastor said, “Yes, you can go to any other church. You can listen to their sermons, you can pray with them, and worship with them. But your tithes must be given to your mother church!” Do these pastors look after the welfare of their flock? They let their flock “graze” anywhere, but they make sure that their money goes to them. It’s pretty obvious that they are only after the money. But, were the true ministers of God interested only in his members’ money? II Corinthians 12:14says--

“Behold the third time I am ready to come to you; and I will not be burdensome to you: for I seek not yours, but you:”

For a true minister of Christ, “what you own” is not important. What matters to him is “you”. But that is not true with the pastors today. They are only after what you have – your tithes, your offerings. And that is against what the Bible teaches because the Bible said, you cannot serve God just anywhere. This is what Christ said in John 12:26--

“If any man serve, let him follow me; and where I am, there shall also my servants be ...”

Christ doesn’t want you to serve Him anywhere. You have to be where He is. So, let us ask our Lord Jesus where He is. Where shall we serve Him? Where shall we worship Him? Hebrew 3:6 says--

“But Christ as a son over his own house ...”

Therefore, Christ is the head in the house of God. What is our basis? Hebrew 10:21 says

“And having a high priest over the house of God:”

Where is Christ? He is in the house of God, in fact, He is heading the house of God. In other words, if you are going to seek for God, you can find Him in the house of God. The question now is: Which is the house of God?I Timothy 3:15 says--

“But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God ...”

Therefore, the house of God is the Church of God, the pillar and ground of the truth. The church is the house of God. So, if you want to be governed by Christ, you are not supposed to go just anywhere because there is a specific place where Christ reigns, and that is in the house of God, or the Church of God. It is there where Christ rules. And this church of God in the Bible is what we are preaching. We are not claiming that we are that church because it was already in existence even before we were born. What we did is, we joined that Church. We made ourselves members of that Church. And we are preaching to all that, whosoever wants to serve Christ should go there because that is where Christ is. He is the high priest there. It is in the house of God, which is the Church of God, where we are supposed to have fellowship.

The question now is: Is it man’s obligation to join, or be a part of the Church being mentioned in the Bible? Let me reiterate that what I am preaching of is the Church in the Bible. People have come up with different names for the Church in the Bible, but whatever name they have conceptualized, there is but one church being spoken by the Bible. The question is: Is it God’s will that we join that Church? Is there a need for a church? Other preachers say, “Just accept Jesus.” How can you accept Jesus Christ if you are rejecting the church?

Remember Christ is the head of the church. How can you accept Jesus Christ if you are setting the church aside? Will that be possible? It is just like asking for a warm ice cream. How can you accept Christ and reject the church when Christ is the head of the church? You are beheading the church that way. You take the head and leave the body. Don’t forget, the body is the church. So, it’s pretty awkward if you will just accept the head, or Christ, and discard the body, which is the church. That is wrong!

Let us ask the Bible: Is man duty-bound to join the church that is being mentioned in the Bible – the Church of God? Can a man be saved if he is just anywhere, or, does he have to incorporate himself in the Church if he wants to be saved? Ephesians 3:6 says--

“That the Gentiles should be fellow heirs . . .” Gentiles are fellow heirs. Gentiles are those that are outside Israel. Therefore, we are classified as Gentiles. And the Bible says--

“That the Gentiles should be fellow heirs, and of the same body . . .”

So, for the Gentiles to become heirs, they need to make themselves part of the “body”.“. . . and partakers of his promise in Christ . . .” The Gentiles may become partakers of the promise in Christ Jesus if they become parts of the “body”. Now, what is the “body”? Colossians 1:18 says--

“And he is the head of the body, the church;;”

Which is the “body”? Its head is Christ and the entire body refers to the Church. And the Gentiles need to be of the same body. They cannot reject the church. They cannot say that they would serve God on their own, in their respective houses. That cannot be!

Christ said, Love your fellowmen; love your brethren. If you are all by yourself in your house, whom will you love? Is it yourself also? Christ said, give donations. To whom will you give your donation? Is it yourself also? Will you take money from your left pocket and give it to your right pocket? That is impertinent. You cannot be saved on your own. Submit yourself to the word of God. He said, for the Gentiles to become fellow heirs, they should make themselves members of the “body”, which is the Church being headed by Christ. Combine the “head” and the “body”, the result is the Church. You need to be a part of the body for you to be ruled by Christ, for you to be under the dominion of Christ. What will become of those who are not under Christ’s leadership? Isaiah 63:19 says--

“We are thine: thou never barest rule over them . . .”

Are there people who are not being ruled by Christ? What happens to these people? In Isaiah 58:11, it says--

“We roar all like bears, and mourn sore like doves: we look for judgment, but there is none; for salvation, but it is far off from us:”

Salvation is far off from people who are not being ruled by Christ. If you want to be saved, you need to be ruled by Christ first. And for you to be ruled by Christ, you have to make yourself a part of the “body” being headed by Christ, which is the Church being mentioned in the Bible.

Now, what are you supposed to do to become a member of the “body”? How are we supposed to join the church? Do we really have to join the church after all? Romans 12:9 says--

“Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good.”