Will you help reform some wild conspiracy theorists?

Question

I don't usually begrudge people's beliefs. In this case, what they publicly state is damaging to the US. It is completely irrational and could embolden terrorism here. Terrorists could read this drivel and conclude that we are divided and weak. This concerns me. Terrorists are irrational too.

They are engaging in "communal reinforcement" which perpetuates and exacerbates their logical fallacies.

The conspiracies are such as 9/11 was created by Bush, Bush is erasing the borders, the elitists are going to enslave us all, illegal immigration is a plot...yada.

Disturbing. And they really antagonize the militant pro-immigrant bunch. Racism is rampant there.

Maybe if they hear enough from the "real world", it may influence their behavior so they can get some help.

Email me if you would like to participate and try to make a difference.

No wise-acre remarks please. These people need serious help.

Maybe I should have used a better word than "reform." Rehab maybe? It's pretty ugly with some of these guys. I'm not sure precisely how to characterize it.

Any DIFFERING opinion to these people is brutally attacked. I researched and understand the underlying psychology, and for many, it is a diagnosable and treatable mental illness.

So even suggestions would help. I feel bad for 'em, and I'm also concerned with their negative impact.

Oh, yes, the participation is just in forum posting online.

The posting is anonymous.

The "real" world is the one of mental health were a constructive reality can be reasonably ascertained.

I don't fear terrorists, but we don't need the CT crowd either. You don't know the entire situation. These groups are getting national attn.

Thanks Uncle. I'll send you a mail

Answer 1

i'm nervous about your word reform.

i like to rebut what i can because of my respect for science and reality, but i don't know what it is you are advocating. what form would "participation" take?

ok... i see. actually i do that now. i actually don't see it as damaging, beyond what damage regular old ignorance does. it reminds me of the intelligent design debate (my apologies if that's your cup o'tea but it is the only similarity i can think of) because it exists in the holes left by a lack of information. just as evolution does not require every single fossil to be found to be a functional theory, the fact that an ap report might have a typo is not evidence of a conspiracy.

i'm in!

Answer 2

There's the problem with that campaign. Too many battles at once. Also, it's completely undefined. What do you intend to do?

We'll start from the top. President Bush made the assertion that to disagree with him is to embolden terrorists, by showing a divided front. This is extremely dangerous it's basically a threat against the people of the United States by their own President. What he's saying is that making a public remark in dissention with his policies is construably treason. He has yet to push the case, but I feel that everyone who agrees with him on that point helps him to solidify it.

It's true that the propaganda perpetuated by both sides of almost every issue on the table lately has been severly lacking in logic or reason. Emotional pleas are simply more effective. Tell people that their own marriages will fall apart if gay people are allowed to call themselves married too, and you too can be slimly elected president.

As far as conspiracy theories, most of them are nonsense. While I have very little respect for the job President Bush has done with this country, I find the thought that he personally authorized 9/11 to be unquestionably ridiculous. As far as the borders and imigration go, that's simply political maneuvering amongst the parties to rile people up and distract us from the poor state of the union. Don't be fooled, corporations would be well served by indentured servitude (not that there's an active plot I'm aware of to overthrow the government of the United States, it's simply a general statement), that's why we have a governement to theoretically keep them in check.

Exactly which perspective on the "real world" do you intend to interject? The religious perspective on these issues? The historical perspective? A conservative perspective? A tactical perspective? Scientific, moral, or humanist?

Fear makes people irrational. It's wrong for us to be afraid of terrorists. Let them misjudge us as weak. They will pay dearly for that error when they expose themselves. It is these terrorists who should fear us.

Answer 3

You have a noble goal, however people believe in conspiracies because the belief supports their own agenda. Facts mean nothing. And sad to say, the conspiracy wacks run from ultra liberal to ultra conservative. I support what you are trying to do, but I think the best approach is to ignore them.

Answer 4

Alright I give up $2 million dollar for my luck
And $2 million dollar for any good idea LOL
See how those question work
Any way Conspiracy theorists at it best

Answer 5

i think your completly right. Im too wrapped up in my own causes to help you.

Sorry

Good luck