Does it go deep into detail of what happened as well? I read my bible a lot, and I've been wanting to know about the war in heaven that existed. It interests me alot! Let me know where in the bible to find it.
2006-07-20 02:30:45 · 14 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
The Fall of Lucifer
What made God so angry? A rebellion so great that it split the angelic hosts. A revolt against God led by the most beautiful being God had created: the archangel Lucifer. The following passage describes him in the beauty of his creation:
...Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold; the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou was created.
Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
(Ezek. 28:12-15)
Where did the iniquity originate? To meet the criteria for God's handiwork—perfect and glorious—the beings He designed to work with Him must contain a certain "thing." That "thing" is a free will.
God is not a creator of marvelous looking humanoid creatures programmed by microchips to worship and obey Him. Worship is only meaningful when the worshiper wills to worship. Obedience can bring God pleasure only when the "obeyer" chooses to obey.
One's will is his "chooser." With it he makes the choices that determine his eternal destiny. God gave Lucifer—as He gave all the angels—a free will in the day of his creation. Lucifer must have used it to worship and please God for some measure of eternity. How long the Bible does not reveal.
However, it does reveal that Lucifer was the first to turn his will against the Father's, which caused his fall. How did he fall? How did it happen? The following passage begins with those questions, apparently asked by the kings of nations whom Satan deceived (Isa. 14:9-10). And it supplies the answer:
How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of god: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
(Isa. 14:12-14)
Lucifer's five treasonous "I wills" reveal much.
"I will ascend into heaven."—His kingdom was in a place from which he had to go up to carry out his rebellious plan.
"I will exalt my throne above the stars of God."—Lucifer had a throne, and therefore a kingdom.
"I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north."—This describes the place of God's throne. Lucifer was after the throne of God.
"I will ascend above the heights of the clouds."—The atmosphere of Lucifer's kingdom included clouds—clouds he would surmount in an attempt to exalt his throne. Many Bible scholars agree that his kingdom was here on earth. It was "the world that then was."
"I will be like the most High."—All that this entails, we do not know. But his later temptation of Jesus reveals that he wanted to receive rather than to give worship. Lucifer's rebellion caused a revolt in heaven. There was a real Star Wars!
Lucifer even deceived some of the angels and led an organized revolt against the Most High God. What was the outcome? Jesus told us. "And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven" (Luke 10:18).
I believe Lucifer's rebellion angered God so much that He removed Himself from the environs of earth, sending it into a chaotic wasteland covered with dark waters.
One of the reasons that Lucifer fell was because of his free will. He could choose to rebel against God, and he did. But, in the same manner, when we choose to come to God and choose to worship Him, it is a fulfilling act—for both the worshiper and for God. That is why free will, even though many make poor decisions with it, is so important...
...Because worship is only meaningful when it's voluntary.
2006-07-21 04:55:09 · answer #1 · answered by Maria 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Ziz gave you the the one and only section that this war is discussed and in luke 10:18 Christ refers to it (as stated by question man) . Most churches teach that this happened before man was created or that it will happen in the end times. BUT read it closely, the full story is referring to Mary and the birth of Christ. So the battle more than likely took place when Satan realized a new King was coming.
To prove that it didn't happen in the beginning go to Job 1:6-7 and you will see that Satan was still welcome in heaven and this is obviously after the creation of man. Now go to Rev. 12:8 where it says neither was their place found any more in heaven. If he is allowed in heaven during the time of Job but not after the battle then this war couldn't be in the beginning.
Satan is an Angel of the Lord and was created evil to accomplish God's will. For those of you that think God won't do anything evil read Isaiah 45:7 " I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, AND CREATE EVIL : I the Lord do all these things." Wow will that verse wake church people up to all the lies they hear from the pulpit.
Some of the answerers stated about Lucifer in Isaiah 14:12. This is the only place that you will find the word lucifer and only in the KJV and Geneva Bibles. The word lucifer means morning star and is a referance not a name, it was mistranslated from Latin to English in the KJV. Look at Is. 14:4, Isaiah is told to tell these things to the king of Babylon who was Nebuchadnezzar at that time. Read the whole chapter and you will see that this is a story of one of Gods prophets (Isaiah) taking a warning to an evil king. Continue reading through this book and you will see the same scenario again and again. Churches also make the same mistake in Ezekiel 28 but in vs. 2 you can see that it is again a prophets warning to a king, this time the king of Tyrus. Neither time refers to Satan.
Jehovas Witnesses state that Jesus is the archangel Michael but if this battle did happen while Christ was on Earth, then the JW's belief would be wrong also.
This is a deep topic and I am presently teaching my disciples this very same thing. If interested I could send you the outline I made with all the verses about Satan so you could research it on your own. I make my own outlines, lessons, etc. I do not buy them on disk like 99% of the preachers do. I would send it to anyone that wants it, FREE OF CHARGE. How often do you hear that in the churchworld ? Oh thats right, I'm not part of the church world. They rejected Christ first and so they reject all who teach the truth. If you would like to have it then contact me through my below websiteand I can mail it or e-mail it based on you preferance.
May God be with you in your search for answers.
2006-07-20 13:51:47 · answer #2 · answered by pontiuspilatewsm 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Revelation 12 and Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
13For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
Isaiah gives a bit more of what started the controversy in heaven.
The book below could shed some morel light for you too:
2006-07-20 09:37:37 · answer #3 · answered by Damian 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Revelation 12
2006-07-20 09:37:51 · answer #4 · answered by SpeakingTruthinLove 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;
isaiah14:12-16
2006-07-20 09:49:04 · answer #5 · answered by donia f 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Revelation 12 mentions war in Heaven, but Revelation is written in highly symbolic language, and no one really knows if this indicates that an actual war occurred, or if it's symbolism that means something else.
2006-07-20 09:43:23 · answer #6 · answered by Dr. Quest 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
In Genesis where God cast the bad angels out of Heaven and that's how Satan and his demons began. It's after God cleansed the Earth of some bad men and the Old Testament mentions that most people lived upto many hundred years.
2006-07-20 09:35:46 · answer #7 · answered by life_boat 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Revelation 12:7 - And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels...
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2006-07-20 09:37:15 · answer #8 · answered by Boaz 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
REV 12 nothing to read about the rebellion lasted about as fast as lightning strikes.
Christ speaks of it in Luke 10:18 :
And He said to them, "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.
2006-07-20 09:39:41 · answer #9 · answered by question man 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Revelation 12
The Woman and the Dragon
1A great and wondrous sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. 2She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth. 3Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on his heads. 4His tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth, so that he might devour her child the moment it was born. 5She gave birth to a son, a male child, who will rule all the nations with an iron scepter. And her child was snatched up to God and to his throne. 6The woman fled into the desert to a place prepared for her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days.
7And there was war in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. 8But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. 9The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.
10Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say:
"Now have come the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God,
and the authority of his Christ.
For the accuser of our brothers,
who accuses them before our God day and night,
has been hurled down.
11They overcame him
by the blood of the Lamb
and by the word of their testimony;
they did not love their lives so much
as to shrink from death.
12Therefore rejoice, you heavens
and you who dwell in them!
But woe to the earth and the sea,
because the devil has gone down to you!
He is filled with fury,
because he knows that his time is short."
13When the dragon saw that he had been hurled to the earth, he pursued the woman who had given birth to the male child. 14The woman was given the two wings of a great eagle, so that she might fly to the place prepared for her in the desert, where she would be taken care of for a time, times and half a time, out of the serpent's reach. 15Then from his mouth the serpent spewed water like a river, to overtake the woman and sweep her away with the torrent. 16But the earth helped the woman by opening its mouth and swallowing the river that the dragon had spewed out of his mouth. 17Then the dragon was enraged at the woman and went off to make war against the rest of her offspring—those who obey God's commandments and hold to the testimony of Jesus.
2006-07-20 09:33:10 · answer #10 · answered by ziz 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋