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they told the story of how scientology beleived the human race originated, and it involved freezing aliens and throwing them into volcanoes. they had a disclaimer saying that was what scientologists actually beleive. i thought that was a joke but looked it up, and ve found several sites that say the same thing.... anyone know if it is or not? thats pretty messed up IMO....


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenu#Summary_of_the_Xenu_story

2006-07-20 00:23:42 · 6 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

i think their stuff is secret and you have to pay and be a member of their church to see it from a legit website

2006-07-20 01:08:26 · update #1

6 answers

Having studied and applied Scientology for the past 35 years
(obviously I am a Scientologist) I can only say that getting your
information about a religion from "South Park" (!) and various bogus websites will not give you an accurate concept of what it is about.

Just for the record , here is a pretty good description of what the religion of Scientology is about :

Scientology is an applied religious philosophy. When I say "applied" I mean you actually use it in your life to change or improve existing conditions. This is different from a religious practice. All religions if you learn about them have a basic philosphy, but they also have certain dogma, rituals and observances, and a certain faith or belief is required. There is nothing wrong with this, but Scientology is not that kind of religion. It does not intrude on anyones faiths of beliefs particularly in the area of God , the Supreme Being, or the Infinite. This area is left totally up to the indivdual, which is why you can be a practicing Jew,for example and still use and apply the priniciples of Scientology in your life. It does not conflict. If anything it will enhance your understanding of your chosen religious practice.
You can have no specific religious beliefs and still benefit from using it.
And it is only true for you according to your own observation and experience with it.
It is a non denominational religion . The dictionary definition that applies:
Religion: The spiritual or emotional attitude of one who recognises the existence of superhuman power or powers.

The most basic principle of Scientology is that YOU are your own immortal soul, that this is not a "thing" you HAVE but what YOU actually are.
The whole purpose of Scientology is to increase an individual's understanding and awareness of himself. And thereby his native abilities .
When you do this the sphere and zone of his positive influence increases and moves outward into his life, his family ,his friends, his groups and mankind which he is part of.

How this result is achieved is the "technology" of Scientology, which was developed by L.Ron Hubbard after his extensive research and the discoveries he made, about the human spirit. The basic religious philosophy and knowledge of Scientology is very old, going back 10,000 years at least to the Veda or Vedic Hymns from the East. The developement of the technology is new.
He completed his research before his death in 1986 and left all of his results and copyrights
to the Church of Scientology along with most of his considerable estate., when he died.

He published a book in 1951 to communicate the basic principles he discovered called: " Scientology The Fundementals of Thought"
There are currently over 8 million Scientologists in more that 150 countries world wide. However we are a new religion, only 55 years old.
The true story of Scientology as a religion goes like this:
1. A philosopher developes a philosophy about life and death.
2. People find it interesting.
3. People find it works.
4. People pass it along to others.
5. It grows.

Note the absense of any "belief" in aliens....
Honestly, you need to be more aware that there can often be a "hidden agenda" when you are using a broad communication line like the media, internet websites or TV as your ONLY source of data. You also need to actually take a look for yourself to really know about something for yourself.
Otherwise all you will have is an opinion, which may or may not be based on any facts.

By the way a "Story" can also be true or ficticious.
For example, The Bible is full of stories.

2006-07-20 01:55:42 · answer #1 · answered by thetaalways 6 · 1 2

that's funny, i've never read about scientology before, but i have always said that people are aliens. the rest of that sounds a little silly though.
anyway. i think the best way would be to either ask a scientologist, or read about scientology from a pro scientology website. that way you can get what they say they believe in and then draw your own conclusion.
i'm gonna have to look into this now.

2006-07-20 00:33:44 · answer #2 · answered by vampire_kitti 6 · 0 0

properly, it isn't any longer completely maximum ideal because it leaves out about ninety 9.9999 p.c. of Scn beliefs. a lot of Scn pertains to communication, problem fixing, previous traumas, reincarnation, and different issues. also, distinctive Scientologists have under no circumstances even finished the point on which that tale's activities allegedly got here about. So putting forward "it truly is what they quite believe" is likewise very deceptive. And why may you're saying no one of their top suggestions ought to believe that? Ever study the bible? it is were given wheels contained in the sky, burning trees, and so on.

2016-12-01 23:47:25 · answer #3 · answered by Erika 3 · 0 0

Yep, what you saw on South Park is actually what these freaks believe.

2006-07-20 01:30:26 · answer #4 · answered by ZCT 7 · 0 0

I wouldn't doubt it, Scientology is scam

2006-07-20 00:29:07 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

The details of Xenu have not only been told by ex-members who have left the cult, but has also been agreed upon by scientology in one of the many court cases conducted around this cult. The court case is referred to as the Fishman Affidavit.

See here for details:
http://sf.irk.ru/www/ot3/spaink-ot3.html
http://www.clambake.org/archive/secret.html

This is a interesting statement from a scientific scrutiny of OT III:
"My overall conclusion based on results of my check on the OT3 details, my analyses of Dianetics and Scientology, and Hubbard's own admissions, is that OT3 is an invalid action for any of religion, science, training college or business, but is valid as criminal racketeering."
http://www.clambake.org/archive/ot/peter_forde.html

It is not a joke, and is definitely not funny.

You can look at court documents & govt. investigations, ex-member testimonials and much more. They all tell the same story, that the Church of Scientology is a dangerous cult.
http://www.clambake.org/archive/audit/
http://www.clambake.org/archive/judge_quotes.html
http://www.clambake.org/archive/CourtFiles/
http://www.whyaretheydead.net/krasel/

Ron lied about his life to make believe he had a scientific and philosophical background on which to make dianetics and scientology amongst many other lies, and this too can be proved with more offical documents:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~kspaink/cos/LRH-bio/

Here is my answer as to what scientology is:

“Scientology is a system of beliefs and practices created by American pulp fiction[1][2] and science fiction [3] author L. Ron Hubbard in 1952 as a self-help philosophy.”
http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/scientology

See here for a critic’s view:
http://www.clambake.org/roland-intro.html

See here for scientology’s own view:
http://www.scientology.org/en_US/religion/index.html

Scientology is considered a religion in some countries, a profitable organisation in others, and in some it is considered a cult whose practises have been banned. For example, the US gives Scientology tax exempt status, whereas Germany and Belgium have called it a “totalitarian cult” and a “commercial enterprise”. France in 1995 classified it as a dangerous cult. The UK refused charitable status in 1999. Russia has a pending court trial over their refusal to register scientology as a religion.

I personally believe scientology to be a dangerous cult that lies to and tricks adherents into believing they are improving themselves and the world around them, while they are for the most part doing the exact opposite. It is made up of good people with good intentions that have been unfortunately deceived just because they do want to help others and themselves live better lives. It appeals to a person’s good intentions, and therein lies the trap.

It seems to have been set up to make money, and indeed they have been very successful at it – although the money is all at the top and not with the actual people delivering the services. Indeed Hubbard is quoted as saying "Writing for a penny a word is ridiculous. If a man really wants to make a million dollars, the best way would be to start his own religion"
http://www.skeptictank.org/readdig.htm

Scientology originated in the 1950’s, it believes its teachings go back not 10,000 years as theta has said, but actually quadrillions of years, even dealing with many different universes that have come and gone in that time. At the top it is about space alien souls that inhabit your body. This was Hubbard’s ‘new’ discovery, strange how it sounds all so sci-fi considering Hubbard was a sci-fi writer. (Sarcasm).

Hubbard has not discovered anything about the true nature of man, nor was he educated or qualified to do so. He was undoubtedly a clever man but also with many psychotic tendencies, that never cleared his own problems let alone anyone else’s. He died on the physch drugs he has campaigned so hard against, in a bid to have his cult takeover their responsibilities. He had a reoccurring stomach ulcer, and continued to claim military disability allowance. By personal accounts he had a wild temper, mild OCD, & respiratory problems, despite the fact that his new discoveries were meant to fix all that.

Dianetics is a rewrite of Freudian memory regression into a complex and ill-worded theory, along with occult magick from Aleister Crawley with Hubbard’s experience as a sci-fi writer thrown in. Scientology has never submitted it methods to the scientific community, nor is it endorsed by any such body. Hubbard was not a scientist and seemingly knew nothing of the scientific method, nor has any of his ‘extensive research’ ever come to light. What has come to light is the social & mind control techniques that take place in scientology, and how people are duped into following this money & alien orientated cult.
http://www.clambake.org/archive/books/apobs/
http://www.clambake.org/archive/techniques/
http://www.clambake.org/archive/lrhbare/

This only formal study of dianetics done near the time it appeared showed dianetics did not achieve any of its stated aims or benefits.
http://www.clambake.org/archive/fischer/

Here is an archive of official studies critical of scientology
http://www.clambake.org/archive/audit/

You cannot progress in scientology without a belief in re-incarnation, and then little alien souls that inhabit your body, so it is not compatible with other people’s faith, it just says it is.
http://www.clambake.org/archive/ot/
http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/scientology
http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/xenu

They lie to members to gain and keep them.

They say it has been thoroughly researched using the scientific method when it hasn’t.

They use mind control techniques: http://www.freedomofmind.com/resourcecenter/groups/documents/scientology/pignotti

They hound and harass critics:
http://www.suppressiveperson.org/

They limit outside information via censoring, condemning it the work of criminals, as well as via disconnection with family.
http://www.clambake.org/archive/events/censorship/
http://www.xenu.net/archive/infopack/15.htm

There are certainly not 8 million adherents worldwide, that is fact.
http://www.clambake.org/archive/COS_members.html

The true story goes like this.

Sci-Fi writer tries to make more money with a questionable self-help technique derived from existing works cobbled together in a hodge podge of techniques to disarm the crticial thinking of an individual, so they can be fully enveloped into the cult. People of this era were very interested in alternative therapy, and latched onto Dianetics. Sci-Fi writer sets up organisation for the purpose of making money called scientology. People are made to feel like it works, and if it doesn’t it’s their fault for not applying the ‘tech’ properly. A mixture of trance like suggestions, known physiological responses and peer pressure all tell you have had a success, when infact you haven’t. This is demonstated by the fact that no-one has ever shown themselves to be a ‘Clear’ or an ‘OT’ by displaying any other the near supernatural powers these states are meant to confer.
Sci-Fi writer goes slightly insane, and starts creating very strange orders like ‘fair game’, ‘disconnection’, ‘ethics’, ‘RPF’, and storing secret files on each of its members in case anything goes awry (so it can blackmail them).
Sci-Fi writer dies a very unhealthy and mentally wrecked individual.
His cult continues to this day.

2006-07-20 02:29:51 · answer #6 · answered by Xenu.net 5 · 0 0

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