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God manifests Himself as the Father, the Son (Jesus), and the Holy Spirit, so yes, Jesus has always existed.

John 1:1-5 tells us, "In the beginning was the Word (Jesus), and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by Him (Jesus), and without Him was not any thing made that was made. In Him was Life, and that Life was the light of men. And the Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness comprehended it not."

2006-07-19 17:16:24 · answer #1 · answered by autiger1956 1 · 13 12

Colossians 1:15 and Revelation 3:14 tell us that Jesus was the "firstborn of all creation" and the "beginning of the creation" by God. Colossians 1:16 says "all things were created through him and for him" so he would have existed and worked with God in creating all beings including the one refered to as Lucifer. Lucifer was not an Arch Angel because that is a term used to refer to the highest angel only. The only name we have for that angel is Michael but some believe that this being is one and the same as the one who eventually became Jesus. Jesus was not given the priviledge of sitting at God's right hand until he had lived and died faithful and presented the value of his perfect human life to God.

2006-07-20 00:29:17 · answer #2 · answered by Sparkle1 6 · 0 0

God is part of the Godhead containing Jesus and the Holy Spirit, so they were all around when Lucifer was an arch angel.

2006-07-20 00:11:49 · answer #3 · answered by ? 7 · 0 0

Of course he was the father, son and holy ghost are one. In the beginning before the earth was formed God said let us make man, so jesus was there all the time. the second answer is Lucifer was not the arch angel theres only one that I know of and his name is Micheal.

2006-07-20 00:24:58 · answer #4 · answered by praisepiece2000 1 · 0 0

Lucifer is a myth. All time is now because time is a construction of this realm. Meaning that Jesus always existed in spirit and was always a part of God. Just like each of us will always be a part of God. Even Jesus said repeatedly that we are God but even the disciples didn't listen. There is no "Satan" there is no "war" for souls between God and "satan". We are all with God now, but because we choose to believe this reality, we cannot see it.

2006-07-20 00:25:39 · answer #5 · answered by Kelly K 3 · 0 0

Jesus was there "in the beginning" (see John 1:1-2) Jesus is referred to as the "word" in this passage.

2006-07-20 00:11:55 · answer #6 · answered by ld 3 · 0 0

Jesus was around in the spirit, but not at the right hand until after He ascended up into heaven.

2006-07-20 00:11:45 · answer #7 · answered by LRB B 2 · 0 0

Read your Bible.John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word,and the Word was with God. John 1 : 14 and the Word became flesh and dweld among us.

2006-07-20 00:15:52 · answer #8 · answered by countryredraccoon 1 · 0 0

To answer the first part of your question, while a spirit creature, Jesus as the first born son of God (God's first creation) was Gods Master Worker and through Jesus all things in the universe were created.

The high ranking angel that later became known as Satan the Devil was also part of that same spirit realm. His earlier name was not Lucifer and is not mentiond in the Bible.see text below.

"Is Lucifer a name that the Bible uses for Satan?

The name Lucifer occurs once in the Scriptures and only in some versions of the Bible. For example, the King James Version renders Isaiah 14:12: “How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning!”

The Hebrew word translated “Lucifer” means “shining one.” The Septuagint uses the Greek word that means “bringer of dawn.” Hence, some translations render the original Hebrew “morning star” or “Daystar.” But Jerome’s Latin Vulgate uses “Lucifer” (light bearer), and this accounts for the appearance of that term in various versions of the Bible.

Who is this Lucifer? The expression “shining one,” or “Lucifer,” is found in what Isaiah prophetically commanded the Israelites to pronounce as a “proverbial saying against the king of Babylon.” Thus, it is part of a saying primarily directed at the Babylonian dynasty. That the description “shining one” is given to a man and not to a spirit creature is further seen by the statement: “Down to Sheol you will be brought.” Sheol is the common grave of mankind—not a place occupied by Satan the Devil. Moreover, those seeing Lucifer brought into this condition ask: “Is this the man that was agitating the earth?” Clearly, “Lucifer” refers to a human, not to a spirit creature.—Isaiah 14:4, 15, 16.

Why is such an eminent description given to the Babylonian dynasty? We must realize that the king of Babylon was to be called the shining one only after his fall and in a taunting way. (Isaiah 14:3) Selfish pride prompted Babylon’s kings to elevate themselves above those around them. So great was the arrogance of the dynasty that it is portrayed as bragging: “To the heavens I shall go up. Above the stars of God I shall lift up my throne, and I shall sit down upon the mountain of meeting, in the remotest parts of the north. . . . I shall make myself resemble the Most High.”—Isaiah 14:13, 14.

“The stars of God” are the kings of the royal line of David. (Numbers 24:17) From David onward, these “stars” ruled from Mount Zion. After Solomon built the temple in Jerusalem, the name Zion came to apply to the whole city. Under the Law covenant, all male Israelites were obliged to travel to Zion three times a year. Thus, it became “the mountain of meeting.” By determining to subjugate the Judean kings and then remove them from that mountain, Nebuchadnezzar is declaring his intention to put himself above those “stars.” Instead of giving Jehovah credit for the victory over them, he arrogantly puts himself in Jehovah’s place. So it is after being cut down to the earth that the Babylonian dynasty is mockingly referred to as the “shining one.”

The pride of the Babylonian rulers indeed reflected the attitude of “the god of this system of things”—Satan the Devil. (2 Corinthians 4:4) He too lusts for power and longs to place himself above Jehovah God. But Lucifer is not a name Scripturally given to Satan."
From The Watchtower letters from readers.

2006-07-20 01:56:57 · answer #9 · answered by .*. 6 · 0 0

Yes

2006-07-20 00:10:47 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Jesus was around from the very beginning, so yes.

2006-07-20 00:09:36 · answer #11 · answered by The Apple Chick 7 · 0 0

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