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HELL IN KJV
One Hebrew word “sheol” is rendered hell. Definition; hades or the world of the dead (as if a subterranian retreat), grave, hell, pit. Three Greek words are rendered hell; geenna, hades, and tartaroo. Definition of geenna; a valley of Jerusalem, used (figuratively) as a name for the place (or state) of everlasting punishment: - hell. Definition of hades; properly unseen, that is, “Hades” or the place (state) of departed souls: - grave, hell. Definition of tartaroo; (the deepest abyss of Hades); to incarcerate in eternal torment: - cast down to hell. Tartaroo is used only one place II Pet.2:4.
Christ teaching the Pharisees in Luke 16:19-31 shows us a separation from God is truly what hell is. The “water” is symbolic for God’s Spirit and love. The word “tormented” means distressed in the Greek, not torture. The “fire” is symbolic for the shame and desire not to be separated from God.
So all who die the first death of the flesh return to God Ecc.12:6-7, but on which side of the gulf do they end up?
Hell is not eternal but is done away with in Rev.20:14-15, called both the second death and lake of fire. This second death is non-existence, for death and hell and those not written in the book of life. This second death or lake of fire is like fat drippings that fall into the fire. Just a poof of smoke into non-existence.
Psa.37:20 But the wicked shall perish, and the enemies of the LORD shall be as the fat of lambs: they shall consume; into smoke shall they consume away.
In my mind what’s worse yet is no memory of you, no tears will be shed for you like you never existed.
Rev.21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
So hell is a separation from God and is not eternal torture or burning. Eventually hell will be done away with or passed away and also some souls. Like fat drippings in the fire, a poof of smoke into non-existence, the second death.

2006-07-19 15:07:50 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

It is known from scripture that a place other than heaven or hell was called "the busom of Abraham". This was mentioned in the story of Lazarus and the Rich Man.

Before Christ's atoning sacrifice, no one could enter heaven, so after death they were detained in that other place.

No where in scripture does it ever mention that third place ever being destroyed or closed. This should mean that it still exists, and this is the Purgatory that Catholics know about.

In Maccabees we learn that prayers can be an effective aid for those who have died.

This can't apply to those in hell, because no one in hell may ever leave.

The only remaining possibility is that those who die in a spiritual state that does not merit heaven or warrant hell might again be detained in that third place, until their spiritual deficit can, in some way, be remedied.

Anyone who reads the bible with an open mind and good sense of logic can come to these same conclusions. They're totally biblical. They make sense, and they dovetail nicely with other biblical passages regarding the requirements for entry into either heaven or hell.

Catholics don't make all this stuff up. They simply have 2,000 years of good scholarship to work from, along with the traditions of Christ and the apostles, the full-time advocacy of the Holy Spirit, and the irrevocable promises of Jesus Christ.

You can read it for yourself. It's in the bible.

2006-07-20 04:31:49 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

The justification for the belief in Purgatory is in Maccabees. This is part of the Catholic Canon, but most Protestants do not believe that it is the holy word of God because Martin Luther edited the Bible and took it out.

2006-07-19 22:21:00 · answer #3 · answered by Ranto 7 · 0 0

Mere reason suggests there must be a Purgatory. So many people seem to be good, but not so greatly good that they should be fit for heaven at once. Again, not nearly all are so evil as to deserve hell. So there should be a means of purification and paying the debt of temporal punishment for those not fit for hell, nor for heaven at once. (Of course Luther would say we can sin all we want and still go to heaven at once, if only we believe it is all covered by Christ's merits: Epistle 501 to Melanchthon).

There is not much in Scripture on Purgatory except that in Second Maccabees 12:45, Judas sends a collection to the Temple for those fallen in battle, found with amulets on, "that they might be freed from this sin." Luther saw so clearly that this referred to Purgatory--which he rejected--that he rejected this book too, declaring it not part of Scripture. Some have tried to see an implication of Purgatory in Matthew 12:32. There Jesus speaks of the sin against the Holy Spirit that will be forgiven "neither in this world nor in the next." But the expression quoted is known in Rabbinic literature, where it means merely "never." Still less could we deduce purgatory from First Corinthians 3:11-15. Paul means if the work of some Christian worker has been of such low quality that it burns down, he himself will be saved "as through fire." But the fire seems to mean the apocalyptic fire of the last day, not a fire of purgatory.

But our belief in Purgatory rests on the tradition and definitions of the Church, at the Councils of Lyons II, Florence, and Trent.

The essential, perhaps the only suffering of Purgatory is the loss of God--it is like what we described in speaking of hell, except that in Purgatory there is no despair, rather, great consolation from assurance of salvation. Is there also something like fire in Purgatory? A host of private apparitions say there is; the Church has never pronounced on it. In fact the Eastern part of the Catholic Church has no such tradition. Many theologians say the suffering is greater than anything on earth. Neither Scripture nor Tradition tells us if that be so.

We do know that the souls there cannot merit or help themselves in any way anymore, they can only suffer. We know we can by prayers and penances relieve them, and somehow, they are enabled to know it when we do that, and they pray for us. How long should we pray and sacrifice for a particular soul? We do not know. St. Augustine in his Confessions (9:13), written 10 to 15 years after the death of his mother, St. Monica, still asked for prayers for her. If we can believe the private apparitions, Purgatory may last the equivalent of many years (we speak thus, for there is no time in Purgatory). For certain, it is terribly wrong to virtually canonize a person at the funeral, as Protestants do under the influence of Luther's sad mistake. Sadly not a few Catholics are imitating them.

2006-07-19 22:09:45 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Here are several verses... 'though not from the bible:

Purgatory

by LH

I've consorted with women of dubious fame
The low-lifes and grifters all know me by name
I've drunk me some whiskey, and I've told me some lies
And for that, I apologize.

But I'm not a bad fellow, I think you'd agree
I never have hurt anybody but me
I'm too seedy for heaven, but I'm too good for hell
So I guess Purgatory would suit me quite well

CHORUS 1
If the good Lord don't want you and the devil don't know you
If they're too high above you or too far below you
There's only one place that a poor boy can go to
It's old Purgatory for me.

I'm too fat to fly and to stubborn to learn
I'm too tough to fry and I'm too wet to burn
I'm too old to change and too lazy to grow
If they're ready to take me, I'm ready to go.

CHORUS 2
If the good Lord don't want you and the devil don't need you
They got nowhere to put you and nothing to feed you
There's only one place that the good life can lead to
It's old purgatory for me

BRIDGE
Right there in the middle is the home of my dreams
I never have been one to go to extremes
I don't want no pitchfork and I don't want no wings
I just want to be like I am

So when your ticket is punched and you pass on to glory
Stop by and see me in old purgatory
If the sun ain't too hot and the water is cool
I'll be havin' a daquiri, down at the pool

CHORUS 1
CHORUS 2
END
©2004

2006-07-19 22:14:30 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

No! Purgatory is imaginary. Who has ever heard of a place where angels "purge" your sins wout? The Bible clearly states that when you accept Christ as you savior and believe he has died on the cross for your sins, then you will be saved and yours sins forgiven. Purgatory is a place the Catholic church made up. The Catholic Church is corrupt and scary. Believe me, I've done some research.

2006-07-19 22:09:13 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

No, purgatory does not exist. It is nowhere in the Bible. The Catholic Church created the concept way-back-when as a means to bring fear and submission into their congregations who could not read the Bible for themselves.

2006-07-19 22:08:51 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

According to my Webster's dictionary, purgatory does not exist. However, there is a hell and it can be described in the Holy Bible. Read Revalation.

2006-07-19 22:10:31 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Purgatory, along with limbo, are creations of the Catholic church. As a young child I found it most upsetting to think that babies that died before they were baptized went to limbo instead of heaven. You won't find either mentioned in the Bible.

2006-07-19 22:30:49 · answer #9 · answered by celticwoman777 6 · 0 0

According to the bible there isn't a purgatory. According to the bible Heaven and Hell themselves are very sparsely populated places. "For the living know the dead shall die, but the DEAD KNOW NOT ANYTHING."

But, as per usual, this condradicts other parts of the bible...

2006-07-19 22:16:13 · answer #10 · answered by Eldritch 5 · 0 0

The following is a good catholic web site that will provide you lots of bible reference

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12575a.htm


(2 Mac 12:39-46). is one of the main verses that is used.
It is in the books that the the protestants did not include in the bible but are in the orginal Catholic and Orthodox bibles.

2006-07-19 22:12:14 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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