Tell me how this makes sense to you?

Question

Original sin came about because Adam and Eve took what was obviously bait. They made up their own minds for once in an un-slavelike manner and thus mankind was doomed for having a "forefather" (and foremother) who were not satisfied with being dumb animals.

God, referred to as Jesus' father and arguably his other evil schizophrenic personality, told him to die in agony or the world's entire population is going to get torched for failing a test of perfection that can't be passed and is supposedly our fault.

Answer 1

that bunk is just a story. The truth is this: man invented god to give themselves behavioral laws and a promise of a sweet afterlife. It's a defense mechanism that most of us are born with to feel that there is someone big and strong out there to protect us and bring us to their happy home when we die, because we all know that we will all die someday.

Answer 2

You feel this way because what you are reading is simple nonsense. I am not saying that anyone’s belief in God is nonsense. I'm just saying that most of the things that you find in the Christian bible are.

Any ideas of a judgmental punishing God are absurd.

These writings that we call the Old Testament are borrowed from ancient Jewish scripture. The Jewish faith does not see them as being the word of God at all. It is only the Christians that have this fantasy about them. Jews see them as more of an ancient history/mythology about the roots of Judaism.

One needs to wonder how it is that the Christians find these meanings in borrowed scripture. Meanings that are nowhere to be found in the faith that they were borrowed from.

The ancient Jews were judgmental and somewhat vindictive, and wanted revenge for some of the things that had happened to them. So they created a judgmental, vindictive punishing God who judged as they judged, hated as they hated, and sought revenge just as they did.

All of this makes for some interesting reading if these ideas of judgment, punishment and revenge appeal to you, and of course as you pointed out porn has some attraction for you.

Still none of these things have anything to do with the real unconditionally loving God who I believe is a part of each and every one of us. You are better off if you stick to the truth and skip the judgmental fantasy called the Old Testament completely. Maybe you should rethink this Idea that you are an atheist. Perhaps it is not God that you find so unbelievable. Could be it is just all of the nonsense that you heard about God that made you feel this way.

That is what it was for me. I have gone full circle with this idea. I was raised catholic, saw it as utter nonsense. Thought of myself as an atheist for a while and then suddenly realized that it was not the idea of God that I had a problem with, it was just the lies I had heard about her.

Love and blessings
don

Answer 3

I'm still not sure why an omniscient God feels the need to put people through 'tests' anyway. Couldn't he have just foreseen that they would eat the fruit and, in so doing, done away with the whole charade? Why even build the Garden of Eden if you can see the future and know that you're just going to kick them out anyway?

Answer 4

In response to your question and users like edsawyer...

God gives us this life with a choice. To love Him, or to not. It was God's plan all along to give us this choice, that is the purpose of the choice Eve made in the garden of Eden. People ask all the time, "Why did God just stop sin before it started and avoid all the hassle? We could've just been in communication with Him since the beginning, and never been separated from Him." But He didn't want mindless drones created to love Him, He wanted us to come to Him willingly, He wanted us to make the choice because that kind of love is real.

So, the option is to spend the rest of eternity with the One you love, or, I believe that if you choose to not allow God in, He is polite and will kindly oblige and step back, and you will spend eternity without God.

Answer 5

you're misinterpreting this here... but either way, it makes perfect sense.

Okay... Adam and Eve disobeyed due to temptation from Satan. Satan told them that they could become like God... they got greedy and gave in.
Bang!... sin is brought into the world.
Now, humans are indebted to God due to the sin. The book of Romans tells us that the "wages of sin is death"... so the payment for the sin... is death. This payment had to be made in order for people to not endure the second "death", meaning eternal separation from God in hell.
No human could pay this price... humans are sinners. Only something clean and blameless could pay that price.
The only way for the payment to be made is for God Himself to die... because He is the only perfect and blameless thing.
He gave His own life for us out of His love for us. It was not God condemning His son, or deying Him as His son or anything like that. It was a sacrifice of an incredible magnitude... to give up one's son for the lives of mankind. Also... God the Father never commanded Jesus to die on the cross. Jesus was "led like a sheep to the slaughter"... he prayed to God the night before his crucifixion that if there be any other way, to let the task at hand pass over Him so He would not have to endure the crucifixion and temporary separation from the Father. He concluded His prayer by saying "by Your will, not mine." Jesus could have, at any time, given up or not gone through with it, but he voluntarily gave up His life and allowed Himself to be crucified for our sins.
It's a free gift. If a person just accepts the free gift from God they will spend eternity in heaven. If they deny the gift, then it's as if the payment was never made for that person, so they will endure their second death, the eternal separation from God in hell.

It's really simple, if you think about it this way.

Answer 6

What I find really striking about the Adam and Eve thing is that God created their minds to have free will, right? And he would know (being omniscient and the creator and all) about the little switch that makes the forbidden really, really tempting, right? How sadistic would that test be, then?

Answer 7

In the first place, A&E were disobedient children in need of punishment. Thus, 'go forth and multiply.' That way they would understand what it is to have disobedient children; i.e., YOU!!

The second half of your question will require a very lengthy explanation that: a) I don't have time to write; and, b) you STILL wouldn't understand anyway!! Therefore, I'm not going to waste my time.

You are without understanding, having your eyes darkened. You mock that which you don't understand. You seek not the truth, but another way to deride those who believe. I pity you.

Answer 8

That was not a sin. They where told not to eat the fruit, but also to replenish the Earth that could not be done in the Garden so either way they had to brake a commandment so it was a transgression not a sin.

Answer 9

What you say does not make sense.
Neither is it accurate.
The term "un-slave like" is extreme.
When the doctor tells you not to eat certain foods, do you feel you are a slave if you follow his advice?
When you follow the manual that accompanies your new car, are you a slave?
When parents tell their child not to touch the stove, will you charge them with child-abuse?
And Jesus is not God. They are two separate individuals.
And "the world's entire population" will never get torched.
What are you reading?
Are you reading?
Are you thinking?
Or do you simply enjoy mocking?
Reel yourself in man, get back to earth!

Answer 10

Adam and Eve is a creation STORY. It's an allagory to explain sin and humanity's disobedience towards God.