Did you know that Juda Gospel has told that it was Juda, who was killed, not Jesus Christ ?

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"The Gospel of Judas," an ancient Egyptian manuscript vilified by the early church as heresy, was released by National Geographic as one of the greatest archaeological finds of the past century.
"We are confident this is a piece of genuine, Christian apocryphal literature," said Terry Garcia, National Geographic executive vice president. "This is the most significant discovery in the last 60 years," comparable to the Dead Sea Scrolls, he added.
"Judas is presented as the one to whom everything is told," said Gregor Wurst, a German scholar who helped translate the document. "Judas was an anti-hero."
It claims that Jesus and Judas planned Jesus' Crucifixion so that the death of Christ's weak, earthly body could release His spirit to enjoy the glories of heaven.

Near the end of the Judas gospel, Jesus tells Judas he will "exceed" the rest of the disciples "for you will sacrifice the man that clothes me."

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20060407-120642-3758r.htm

Answer 1

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Answer 2

Why do these doctrines surprise anyone?

The church banned the Gnostic gospels because they took power away from the church. This caused a problem for a church that ruled everything and everyone....murdering those who did not conform.

Is it so hard to believe that Judas simply played out his role (per Jesus's request) which ultimately began Christianity? Without the death of Jesus on the cross, there would be no Christianity.

And for the record, who the hell is anyone on here to condemn a soul who felt SO bad for what he had done to his BEST FRIEND that he took his own life. Judas and Christ grew up together. Judas loved Jesus. I absolutely believe that he did what Jesus asked him to do.

The church has left much out of the bible to serve their own needs of control. It's not speculation. It's a fact.

It wasn't even until later that the church decided to make Mary Magdalene a prostitute rather than a friend/companion of Jesus. Mary being a prostitute made Jesus appear more saintly and less human.

The gnostic gospels also state that Jesus showed an unnatural empathy towards women and children....this also does did not conform to a church that was run by men (and still is).

People can say as they wish. They can answer your question by stating that those who follow the gnostic gospels are satanic.

They are fools who are afraid to look deeper within themselves and afraid of the world around them.

Answer 3

The gnostic "Judas gospel" was written 300 to 400 years AFTER The fact as opposed to the Gospels of Mathew, Mark, Luke and John which were written in the lifetimes of the authors and well within the time period of witnesses to Christ and the New Testament Church.

So am I going to believe that Judas lived 300 to 400 years after and wrote that so called gospel himself? NOT LIKELY! Believe what you will - but Judas killed himself and the gospel of Judas is a complete fabrication by people with a satanically driven agenda to confuse the true Church at any cost and to dissuade anyone from ever believing the true word of God.

Muslims would love this gnostic gospel of Satan - I mean, Judas. It backs their claims and is not even remotely valid.

So I dont give any credence to a instrument devised by Satan himself using delusional men who never seen Jesus, by men who never even knew Judas.

Answer 4

read further in the article. don't try to mislead by quoting part of something, whether it is the Bible or anything else.


This concept comes from gnosticism, a doctrine that believes salvation comes not by Jesus' death and Resurrection, but through secret knowledge imparted by Him to select individuals.
Gnostic writers produced several gospels named after New Testament figures such as the Apostle Thomas and Mary Magdalene. None have been considered authoritative since the Christian canon was defined in the 4th century.
A lineup of scholars assembled by National Geographic yesterday admitted the book has no proven link to the Judas who, according to the Gospel of Matthew, committed suicide soon after he betrayed Jesus.
"There is no independent historical tradition behind this text," said the Rev. Donald Senior, president of the Catholic Theological Union in Chicago. The writers of the Gospel of Judas, he added, "made its characters to be mouthpieces of their own theology."

Answer 5

Does it surprise you?

There is a scapegoat behind all the great events in history. Why should the betrayal of Christ be any different?

It is said in the Gospel of Judas that Judas was among Christ's closest confidants.

Sometimes you have to make a decision and fill a role, even if it won't help your popularity. Judas did just that and has become among one of the most vilified characters in history.

He was necessary though.

Answer 6

It does not say that judas died in jesus's place. It states that jesus worked with judas to bring about his betrayal to facilitate his arrest and eventual death.
reading the accepted gospels you can see that judas was one of the more important deciples so this is not a long shot.
jesus had to die to fulfill god's plan and judas was an instrument of god.

Answer 7

The so called Gospel of Judas is a fake.

Answer 8

if you guys hadn't realised!
this is all pretty nonsense- i mean where is the credibility! this gosple you are talking about was by judas.(which again somehow i sincerily doubt!)
there is no-one i presume who can corroborate it, with even a single piece of work!
whereas, the bible is the handiwork over numerous years, it might have benn started by abraham, maybeadam himself! and if read it you'd see corroborations and symbolisms all the way to thwe gospel! and in the new testament these past experiences are explained in the life of jesus pretty clearly if yuo missed it out in the first bits!
think abotu it!
don't beleive me! do your own search!

Answer 9

Both Judas Iscariot and Jesus died. Judas hanged himself because he betrayed Jesus. Jesus died on the cross to save people from their sins. Now, if Jesus didn't do that, if you sinned to would give sacrifices or be crusified.

Answer 10

Hello.. :)

The Judas We Never Knew

Disgraced disciple actually conspired with Jesus, according to newly released Gospel of Judas. Should we believe it?
by Collin Hansen | posted 04/06/2006 04:30 p.m.

The Gospel of Judas debuted Thursday in Washington, D.C. What's the Gospel of Judas, you ask? Well, it's not a gospel. And it's not written by Judas. But it's still important, if not the most important nonbiblical text discovered during the last 60 years, as a National Geographic Society executive told The New York Times.

The text, a copy of the document written during the second century, reveals some big news. Turns out Judas wasn't the renegade disciple who betrayed Jesus and committed suicide after remorse overwhelmed him. No, this Judas was just doing what Jesus told him to do. Jesus explained to Judas that he would "exceed all of [the disciples]" by getting Jesus crucified.

Well, that sure would change things. If it were true. This "news" isn't what makes the Gospel of Judas significant. Rather, thanks to this text, we can further confirm what we already know about Gnostics—those pesky heretics condemned by early-church leaders like Irenaeus. Don't get confused by mentions of Jesus and Judas. This is no Christian text. The Gospel of Judas did not circulate until about 150 years after Jesus died. Let's put it this way: This new text tells us nothing more about Jesus' relationship with Judas than does Jesus Christ Superstar.

Until the release of the Gospel of Judas and other Gnostic texts discovered decades ago near Nag Hammadi in Egypt, we learned about Gnosticism mostly through the polemics of Christian apologists. Now thanks to the Gospel of Judas, we can further verify two major Gnostic teachings. According to many Gnostic teachers, Jesus either did not actually appear in the flesh, or he at least wanted to shed his skin as soon as possible. Jesus longed to return to the spirit world. Judas helped make that happen. ("You will sacrifice the man that clothes me," the "spiritual" Jesus tells Judas in this document.) Also, Gnostics believed only a select few would truly apprehend the knowledge of heaven. The Gospel of Judas teaches that only Judas, Jesus' favorite disciple, fully understood.

Christian belief contrasts sharply with Gnosticism. Fully God and fully man, Jesus endured birth in a manger and death on a Cross. He shared in our humanity, "so that by his death he might destroy him who holds the power of death" (Heb. 2:14). This message is not restricted to a few who will ascertain gnosis (knowledge). The gospel "is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile" (Rom. 1:16).

Nevertheless, some claim the Gospel of Judas and other Gnostic texts throw orthodox Christianity into doubt. "As the findings have trickled down to churches and universities," New York Times reporters John Noble Wilford and Laurie Goodstein wrote, "they have produced a new generation of Christians who now regard the Bible not as the literal word of God, but as a product of historical and political forces that determined which texts should be included in the canon, and which edited out. For that reason, the discoveries have proved deeply troubling for many believers."

Who are those troubled believers? We're not sure, because Wilford and Goodstein apparently didn't talk to any of them. Karen King and Elaine Pagels revive their Gnosticism act. We also meet James Robinson, a jilted scholar who wrote a book on the Gospel of Judas without having access to the text. The Times doesn't mention that Robinson believes the Gospel of Judas tells us nothing about the historical Jesus or Judas.

I talked with Darrell Bock of Dallas Theological Seminary hours before he was scheduled to lecture at Princeton, Pagels's employer. He explained some peculiarities about the group that gave us the Gospel of Judas. Turns out these "Cainite Gnostics" earned their moniker rehabilitating disgraced biblical figures, including Cain, the Sodomites, and Judas.

Bock also pointed out that Scripture does include some contrasting perspectives on Judas. Mark portrays Judas as a bumbler, just like the other disciples who misunderstood Jesus' teaching. Writing later, John explains Judas differently. Judas exploits his position as treasurer to steal from the till, and Jesus calls him a "devil" (John 6:70).

According to Bock, the balance of Scripture indicates Judas expected a different type of Messiah. Disappointed, he turned in Jesus, whom he considered a threat to the Jewish nation. "Judas is a reflection of anyone who ends up rejecting Jesus," Bock said. "It's a tragic story—not something to shake your finger at, but something to be sad about."

Much more tragic and sad than rehashing an old debate about the legitimacy of orthodoxy.

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2006/114/43.0.html

In Jesus Most Precious Name..
With Love..In Christ..

Answer 11

then why does it state the one that dunks his bread after me will betray me and the one that dunk his bread after jesus at the last supper was judas