If Bible is really Perfect and Word of God?

Question

Ok every person who uses the bible in arguments says it is word of god hence automatically true. If that is so can I get some real answers as to why in the bible it says ok to rape, torture, enslave people, ok to kill for wearing clothes made of 2 threads, why christians eat pork when says in bible they cannot.
So I can only conclude that either bible is a flawed book written thousands of years ago by humans, or bible really is the word of god and it really is ok to kill, enslave, rape, torture, etc.
Now as for the old vs new testament thing I cannot accept difference since old testament is part of bible and most often quoted these days in arguments as the will of god.
Any thoughts as to how bible can be perfect and word of god when it is filled with such horrible travesties that most accept is not what god wants?

Hope Dollar: Your answer basically says torture, slavery, rape are still good and ok but we have better ways. I have to disagree and say evil is not a good thing

Please everyone who is saying "It doesn't say that" Please go read it because it is there in multiple cases..and will someone please answer question or is it too complicated?

Answer 1

No. It is a self-contradicting mess. Besides, no system, theory, or set of axioms can be proven as valid by internal means, as Godel's proof demonstrates. The Bible cannot be proven true by using the Bible as evidence. Attempts at external validation have completely debunked christianity.

Answer 2

You have fallen into the same trap the Pharisees fell into. The Bible does not say it is okay to rape, torture and kill, nor does it say it is okay to enslave people. It does say not to wear clothes made of 2 different types of thread, and it does say don't eat pork.

The 10 commandments stand as written, agreed? So we are not speaking of them. What you are talking about are the laws of Moses, written for a people travelling into the desert thousands of years ago. The people of that day carried into the desert with them a culture of slavery from over 400 years of being with the Egyptians, and Moses had to give them practical advice on how to live in the desert.

Doesn't it make sense not to eat shellfish in the desert? Tell me, if you know, how to cook shellfish ... yeah, it has to be alive when it goes in the pot. How practical is that in the middle of the desert? And thousands of years ago, how practical was it to weave cotton and silk together? First time you wash it, it goes all funky, for silk is not washed like cotton.

I know which verses you speak of when talking about the laws at that time that say that if a man rapes a woman he's got to marry her. Or the verses regarding slavery, and how to treat slaves. Again, these were laws Moses had to establish for a society that already included slavery. Laws for a community where rape had NO consequences, and he had to figure out what to do with them once the act had been committed (remember, there were no jails).

And you may think the laws of Moses were harsh, and they were. In our society, if you wash a silk/cotton blend shirt in hot water, it will shrink, and you'll have to get a new shirt. No big deal. But back then, it could mean the difference between going naked and having clothes to cover you. Not to mention all the wasted work in making a shirt from scratch! These laws were laws of survival in extreme conditions for a people used to being slaves.

The problem is that the Pharisees (and some others), took what was practical advice and sound law for desert dwellers on the run and made it more important than having a relationship with the very God that had freed those people. A lot of the laws simply don't apply to us in this 'modern' age. We don't have slavery anymore so what to do with a slave isn't all that important is it?

Answer 3

To the best of my knowledge, it doesn't say it's okay to rape or torture. If it does, then just show me the references and we'll go from there. Enslavement is never condoned. The Bible makes references to slavery because it existed in society at that time, and the writers felt the need to limit it and regulate it. The Jews' slaves, for instance, had to be released after 7 years and they couldn't be abused. That sounds extraordinarily enlightened compared to everyone else at the tie. I'm not sure what you mean about the 'wearing clothes made of two threads.' Do you mean two fabrics? No one at the time would have worn a garment made of two different types of fabric anyway. When you washed it, they would shrink at different rates and pull the clothing all out of shape. The reason for that law, therefore, was symbolic. Just as a garment made out of two fabrics will be ruined, so too will anyone be who tries to take on two faiths - who tries to mix both Jewish law/religion/culture with that of pagans. The whole pork issue (and the question of following leviticus religious law in general) was actually a serious problem for the early Church. Essentially, do you have to be Jewish first in order to become a Christian. There was long debate and prayer, and eventually it was decided that you didn't have to be Jewish first. One of the big reasons for this was because the Apostles saw how God was giving the Holy Spirit to gentiles as well as Jews. If God saw them to be worthy followers, how could they disagree? In particular regards to the pork issue, see Acts 12:4-10 where God sent Peter a dream saying that nothing he made is unclean.

Answer 4

Hi!

First of all, the new testament is a "CONTINUATION" of the old testaments and NOT two OPPOSITES.

Look at this illustration:

If we started a company with certain marketing skills, and after 10 years improve on the our marketing skills, does that necessarily mean our initial marketing skills were incorrect? No.the initial marketing skills were step to the better ones...Now see, the OLD testament and the NEW as that.

Realise that in the old testament you learn mostly the "the nature of God" and in the new testament you get to "relate with Him".

I hope this helps.

Answer 5

How about the bible and ALL other holy books were written to expressly control the heathens who want to believe the junk.

Answer 6

The Bible was written by man so it is inherently flawed.

Answer 7

I would need to know the verses inorder to give an acurate reply.

Answer 8

It makes good toilet paper

Answer 9

Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we die