Christians,need clarification,where in the bible does it suggest that having sex with your fiance' is sin?

Question

I am aware that I asked this question twice but some of the answers I received were not on the dot.

Adultery should be taken out of this question for we all know it is sin to commit adultery.

But the meaning of the word "fornication" is "sexual immorality", harlotry, prostitution and idolatory. These are the biblical meanings of fornication and ,it seems, these meanings do not seem to suggest that having sex with your fiance' is sin:

Something to be remembered: Joseph was called "Mary's husband" while they were engaged...Could it be that in God's eyes, people who are engaged such that the parents know and the church know, are married?Only, they have made a ceremony?

I can understand if people say having sex with people that you are not engaged to is "sexual immorality"!

Please show me.

Well, to say that having sex with many women you are not engaged to is SIN, is quite acceptable, BUT does the bible literally say "we should not have sex with our fiance's"?

Please guys!I am born-again and I do not encourage this but let us say what the bible says. What is the biblical meaning of "fornication"-

"Adultery, Idolatory, Sexual immorality and others which are irrelevant to this question"


...What about the Joseph-Mary issue.Matthew calls them "husband and wife" but they were engaged! Is that correct?

I don't want us to assume that the meaning of "fornication" is to have pre-marital sex.

Did you know, in South Africa, your lady is your wife, after you have paid what we call "lobola" which is dowry even before you go to church to be blessed?

Marriage is basically "agreements"

Let's look at this:

Harlotry is basically prostitution.
Idolatory is idol worship.God was married to Israel, that is why He said they committed fornication with other nations.

Sexual immorality: Is one immoral if he has sex with the lady she is engaged to,looking at the Joseph-Mary relationship?

I don't want us to be emotional about the subject...let us look closely what the real meaning of "fornication" is!

If one has sex with people he is not engaged to, it is surely "sexual immorality" because you are being unfaithful and that is clearly immoral!

If one is engaged and has sex with many people,that is unfaithfulness! and that's unclean!

But the bible does not seem to clear out the issue of "engaged" couples, does it?

If you are too young to marry, then you have no business getting even a boyfreind 'cause you have not the authority to marry, therefore God would not accept it.

Please Children of God, do not assume, read the whole passage before you answer.Investigate what the meaning of "fornication" is.

God bless you all.

To.....................

May God forgive me if I am doing what you accuse me of.

I just want the truth...Let's not be emotional about this.Let's reason this out until we get to the bottom of it.

Please read the rest of my question and details for you to understand why I am saying this.

If I was wrong about asking this quetion I will ask for forgiveness from the Lord and others as well.

I just want us to be honest.

Answer 1

in the case of Mary and Joseph, they were engaged, but in that culture the engagement was a legal contract and just as binding as marriage, but they were not yet permitted to live together until after the wedding. this would indicate that they saw this as still wrong to have sex outside of marriage and that the actual marriage did not come until the wedding.

our engagements today are in no way as "permanent" as theirs were. they are not legal contracts. the legal contract does not come until marriage for us.

Answer 2

The function called marriage is just a formal ceremony only to inform the dear ones and relatives that so and so is married to so and so. So the actual marriage takes place when a man and woman decide to unite for a family life together. A woman betrothed to a man is to be treated as his wife. Only difference is that the ceremonial function is not over. Some people used to keep away from sex until the ceremony is over. In case of Mary, Joseph did not have sex with her until the birth of Jesus because they were advised by the Holy Spirit to do so.

Society keeps family set up rules to make sure that every child gets the opportunity to live with his/her father and mother. I think it is the right of any child. But, unfortunately, today many children have only mother - don't know who is the father. This is not a situation that we should allow in any society.

Today's so called Christian world has nothing to do with Bible or the life of Christ. So, questioning them taking an example of Bible is just irrelevant. But according to Bible sex out of marital relationship is sin and it is fornication. It is sex immorality. Above all breach of faith towards a new child that can be born out of the relationship.

Answer 3

You are asking a very serious question...and I will do my best: God is Love...and when you love, you honor Him...and He didn't put conditions on it. Part of this phenomna lies in the fact that "they" know something very important...that to give of yourself in such a casual manner or for the wrong reasons won't bring you any happiness..only a temporary satisfaction...and then you risk feeling very empty inside...so a lot of this stems from people wanting to convey something important and conducive to your well-being...but the truth is...when you are loved...and when you give love...then it is for the right reason...and God doesn't care if you have a peice of paper.

When you are young it is hard to know the difference...for the young often love with complete abandon...only to discover it wasn't right for them at all...so waiting can be a very wise choice. ..but sometimes people have to find this out for themselves. You can only make the choice that is best for you at the time. I know it can be very confusing. Sometimes, the body is able, but the emotional development isn't present...and often produces serious consquences.

Some people go overboard within this topic and it generates fear and guilt...and they use the Bible to do it...when maybe they should simply state this simple piece of wisdom, and quit hiding behind the Bible to address real life issues.

Some of the best Bible Quoters I know are in prison. Think about that. It is often subject to interpretation...and then it is time to think for yourself...and develop your own wisdom...and trust in the power of God to guide you. If it feels right...it is probably right...and if it feels wrong...don't do it!

Answer 4

It sounds to me that you want others to justify your actions. I will NOT agree with you and I pray that others will not either. You know that the bible does not say anything about having sex with someone that you plan to marry. Fornication means sexual relationships Outside the bonds of marriage. You Are Not married to her! In the Book of Revelations,Fornication is symbolic of how Idolatry and Pagan religion defiles True Worship of God (Rev.14:8; 17:4)

Answer 5

Hebrews 13:4-6 says "Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge. Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee. So that we may boldly say, The Lord is my helper, and I will not fear what man shall do unto me." While most would say the latter two verses are separate from the first, they still apply. Those going into a marriage should keep the marriage pure, and the desire of one to defile it beforehand is covetousness, adding sin to sin. Some might argue that the passage doesn't outright condemn sexual relations before marriage, but when coupled with the verses on covetousness I think it may.



Sex before marriage being wrong.

There are a number of passages that say to avoid fornication (using the word used in the King James Version of the Bible). That word is a translation of a Greek word that, I am told, includes all sexual activity outside marriage, including before marriage. In some of these verses it is listed along with adultery, which generally refers to one marriage partner having sex with one not his/her spouse (whether that person is married or not). Some of the passages are: Acts 15:29; Colossians 3:5-6; Ephesians 5:3; Galatians 5:19-21 (calling fornication a work of the flesh as opposed to the fruit of the spirit); and 1 Thessalonians 4:3-5.

Ephesians 5:3, for instance, says "But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints." And 1 Thessalonians 4:3-5 says, "For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication: That every one of you should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honour; Not in the lust of concupiscence, even as the Gentiles which know not God." Here Paul even equates abstinence with holiness.

In 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, Paul includes fornicators with homosexuals, theives, and drunkards (among others) as people who will not inherit the kingdom of God. "Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God."

Lest one get the impression that sex is all evil, as some preach, the writer of Hebrews says "Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge." (Heb 13:4) Marriage makes sex holy and good.

Answer 6

Frankly the bible says so many things and the rest was made up by the bastards who used the church to control people. Personally the bible can say "boo" for all I care. It is all nonsense. As far as I know you can have sex with whoever you like and when you feel like it. The church should mind its own business! Whatever that is.......

Answer 7

The only sexual acts prohibited by the bible are a man not her husband having sexual relations with a married woman.

That is it.

I'm not a Christian and know that much.

Answer 8

My 2 cents: Have sex with your fiance while you can because after the 'I DO' is said and the honeymoon is over.....so is the sex.

Answer 9

It is written in the Book Of Moron.

Answer 10

it says you should not have "premaritable sex." and if they're your fiance, you are not married yet.