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After all, only Christians will be saved and jews clearly are not Christian. Doesn't this fact make their love of the Israeli nation the ultimate irony?

2006-07-18 19:24:00 · 10 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

I guess I always believed the preacherman when he said the good book tells us that all I have to do to be saved is to accept Jesus as my personal savior. It appears from many of these posts that this requirement will be waived for the jews. Now that's a sweet deal!

2006-07-19 04:08:03 · update #1

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FACT : If you do not accept the Messiah, you won't be found in Heaven. So, if the shoe fits, wear it. God's criteria for going to Heaven is that mankind, on an individual basis, accepts Christ. God is the judge though, not you, or me, or anyone. So you can't predict who goes to heaven, and who doesn't. As a Christian, I can't say "all Jews will burn in hell", 'cause then I'd have to go down a big long list of other people who don't accept Christ as their Messiah, and I'm not judge to do this, and I don't know who accepts Christ, and who doesn't, in the first place. There are quite alot of jews who do infact accept Christ, I do know this to be fact. So I cannot summarize them all up like you have, and then "damn" them all to Hell. By the way, I support Israel in it's war, as opposed to supporting the deranged mentality of murderous terrorists who are trying to "wipe" Israel off the map.

2006-07-18 19:34:52 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Christian means "Christ-like"!

The end times are all about the Jewish people, God's chosen people, to come to know the true Messiah; Jesus Christ.

You have to do some major studies of scripture here on your own, with the assistance of a good pastor, and let the Holy Spirit reveal what is written.

Test the spirits, as scripture tells us to do.

Those that claim the Bible is just a "fairytale" are those that are not true believers in God. Their eyes are blinded just like the Jews are right now. In fact, there are many Jews that have come to know Jesus as their true Messiah, Messianic Jews are what they are called today.

The book of Revelation is all about the Jews coming to know Christ Jesus as their Messiah, the long awaiting Messiah. They will realize then that the Messiah they have longed to have was in fact here, but they rejected Him then.

In Revelation there will be a great multitude of people, so great you will not be able to count, come to know Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior, the true Messiah.

The 144,000 Jews will go out and witness to other Jews the truth of who their Messiah is, Jesus. God blinded the Jewish people because they rejected Him. God in a way "divorced" the Jewish people and opened His kingdom for the Gentiles to come unto Him. This period is referred to as the "Age of Grace". The Gentiles who come to accept the Son of God, Jesus, are crafted into the family of God.

At the end of this time, the Jews will once again reunite with God and remarry so to say. They will see the error of their peoples and come unto Christ. The ones that will choose hell are all those Jews and Gentiles alike, that will reject Christ Jesus as their Lord, Savior, and true Messiah.

So, true Christians don't think Jews will go to hell. The Bible does NOT teach this method of thinking at all. What the Bible tells us is: God does not want to see any perish. Read the book of John (gospel). John 3:16 says it all!!!

2006-07-18 20:19:30 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Whew! Truth revealed is long winded-you made his day with this question, I almost fell asleep.
Jesus was Jewish. The Hebrews are the chosen race.
I don't know what religion believes all jews will burn in hell other than Hitlers' people. After all, it was the Jewish who wanted Jesus crucified, but Jesus asked our Father to forgive them, because they didn't know what they were doing.
"Christ" is not Jesus' last name by the way-He is Jesus, THE "Christ" look it up if you dare. Oh and by the way-Jews can accept Jesus these days if they want to-it's a personal choice for them as well. They don't have to follow an angry arab with obvious bad teeth, and blow their own body up, or their children, to get to heaven.

2006-07-18 19:46:24 · answer #3 · answered by phwar68 5 · 0 0

The Bible says becoming a Christian is becoming a child of Abraham which are the Jews. Also we are told that there will be a revival among the Jews. Plus I just like watching the islamic arabs get dealt with.

2006-07-18 19:30:55 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

No its not irony. The RR believe that the Jews will be there slaves and rebuild the new temple, which will be the catalyst for the second coming. There is nothing wrong with the existence of Israel just those, who wish its destruction.

2006-07-18 19:30:57 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

This is not correct and reflects your bigotry against the Jews.

The Jews were chosen by God and in the end time, they will be given another chance.

Christian are coheirs with the Jews.

2006-07-18 19:31:15 · answer #6 · answered by J. 7 · 0 0

Entirely false idea. The Hebrews are God's chosen children. Only reason we get to join them in Heaven is Jesus.

2006-07-18 19:28:25 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Heavens NO! We believe that they will be judged according to their works(and their Faith).

Read the book of Romans.

2006-07-18 19:28:42 · answer #8 · answered by Makemeaspark 7 · 0 0

nice to read some of the posts I thought that many Christians thought that way.

glad to see its plenty dont

2006-07-18 21:23:02 · answer #9 · answered by Gamla Joe 7 · 0 0

ZIONISM TODAY
Christian and Muslims are seen as subhuman and are forced to use color coded license plates that easily identify them as non-Jewish. Palestinians are forced to use different roads, sidewalks and neighborhoods from their Jewish counterparts primarily to prevent terrorist attacks against Israeli citizens. In actuality it was yet another form of control and humiliation designed to wear down and demoralize the Palestinian people. 93% of Israel is off limits to non-Jewish residents...though exceptions are made for tourists.


Israel an American Value?

Torture and summary executions were not American values until we prostituted ourselves for the sake of Israel, thus adopting their policies, programs and procedures, despite the conflicts with our constitution and stated principles.

Though these actions violate every principle the United States is founded on, we support and protect these policies in Israel and engage in them in Iraq and Afghanistan making the term, "American values" the ultimate oxymoron.

1. "There is a huge gap between us (Jews) and our enemies ­not just in ability but in morality, culture, sanctity of life, and conscience. They are our neighbors here, but it seems as if at a distance of a few hundred meters away, there are people who do not belong to our continent, to our world, but actually belong to a different galaxy." Israeli president Moshe Katsav. The Jerusalem Post, May 10, 2001
2. "The Palestinians are like crocodiles, the more you give them meat, they want more".... Ehud Barak, Prime Minister of Israel at the time - August 28, 2000. Reported in the Jerusalem Post August 30, 2000

3. " [The Palestinians are] beasts walking on two legs." Menahim Begin, speech to the Knesset, quoted in Amnon Kapeliouk, "Begin and the Beasts". New Statesman, 25 June 1982.

4. "The Palestinians" would be crushed like grasshoppers ... heads smashed against the boulders and walls." " Isreali Prime Minister (at the time) in a speech to Jewish settlers New York Times April 1, 1988

5. "When we have settled the land, all the Arabs will be able to do about it will be to scurry around like drugged cockroaches in a bottle." Raphael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defence Forces, New York Times, 14 April 1983.

6. "How can we return the occupied territories? There is nobody to return them to." Golda Maier, March 8, 1969.

7. "There was no such thing as Palestinians, they never existed." Golda Maier Israeli Prime Minister June 15, 1969

8. "The thesis that the danger of genocide was hanging over us in June 1967 and that Israel was fighting for its physical existence is only bluff, which was born and developed after the war." Israeli General Matityahu Peled, Ha'aretz, 19 March 1972.

9. David Ben Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister): "If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti - Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault ? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?" Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp121.

10. Ben Gurion also warned in 1948 : "We must do everything to insure they ( the Palestinians) never do return." Assuring his fellow Zionists that Palestinians will never come back to their homes. "The old will die and the young will forget."

11. "We have to kill all the Palestinians unless they are resigned to live here as slaves." Chairman Heilbrun of the Committee for the Re-election of General Shlomo Lahat, the mayor of Tel Aviv, October 1983.b

12. "Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it." - Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001, to Shimon Peres, as reported on Kol Yisrael radio. (Certainly the FBI's cover-up of the Israeli spy ring/phone tap scandal suggests that Mr. Sharon may not have been joking.)

13. "We declare openly that the Arabs have no right to settle on even one centimeter of Eretz Israel... Force is all they do or ever will understand. We shall use the ultimate force until the Palestinians come crawling to us on all fours." Rafael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defense Forces - Gad Becker, Yediot Ahronot 13 April 1983, New York Times 14 April 1983.

14. "We must do everything to ensure they [the Palestinian refugees] never do return" David Ben-Gurion, in his diary, 18 July 1948, quoted in Michael Bar Zohar's Ben-Gurion: the Armed Prophet, Prentice-Hall, 1967, p. 157.

15. "We should prepare to go over to the offensive. Our aim is to smash Lebanon, Trans-Jordan, and Syria. The weak point is Lebanon, for the Moslem regime is artificial and easy for us to undermine. We shall establish a Christian state there, and then we will smash the Arab Legion, eliminate Trans-Jordan; Syria will fall to us. We then bomb and move on and take Port Said, Alexandria and Sinai." David Ben-Gurion, May 1948, to the General Staff. From Ben-Gurion, A Biography, by Michael Ben-Zohar, Delacorte, New York 1978.

16. "We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population." Israel Koenig, "The Koenig Memorandum"

17. "Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist. Not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushua in the place of Tal al-Shuman. There is not a single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population." Moshe Dayan, address to the Technion, Haifa, reported in Haaretz, April 4, 1969.

18. "We walked outside, Ben-Gurion accompanying us. Allon repeated his question, What is to be done with the Palestinian population?' Ben-Gurion waved his hand in a gesture which said 'Drive them out!'" Yitzhak Rabin, leaked censored version of Rabin memoirs, published in the New York Times, 23 October 1979.

19. Rabin's description of the conquest of Lydda, after the completion of Plan Dalet. "We shall reduce the Arab population to a community of woodcutters and waiters" Uri Lubrani, PM Ben-Gurion's special adviser on Arab Affairs, 1960. From "The Arabs in Israel" by Sabri Jiryas.

20. "There are some who believe that the non-Jewish population, even in a high percentage, within our borders will be more effectively under our surveillance; and there are some who believe the contrary, i.e., that it is easier to carry out surveillance over the activities of a neighbor than over those of a tenant. [I] tend to support the latter view and have an additional argument:...the need to sustain the character of the state which will henceforth be Jewish...with a non-Jewish minority limited to 15 percent. I had already reached this fundamental position as early as 1940 [and] it is entered in my diary." Joseph Weitz, head of the Jewish Agency's Colonization Department. From Israel: an Apartheid State by Uri Davis, p.5.

21. "Everybody has to move, run and grab as many hilltops as they can to enlarge the settlements because everything we take now will stay ours... Everything we don't grab will go to them." Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of militants from the extreme right-wing Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, November 15, 1998.

22. "It is the duty of Israeli leaders to explain to public opinion, clearly and courageously, a certain number of facts that are forgotten with time. The first of these is that there is no Zionism,colonialization or Jewish State without the eviction of the Arabs and the expropriation of their lands." Yoram Bar Porath, Yediot Aahronot, of 14 July 1972.

23. "Spirit the penniless population across the frontier by denying it employment... Both the process of expropriation and the removal of the poor must be carried out discreetly and circumspectly." Theodore Herzl, founder of the World Zionist Organization, speaking of the Arabs of Palestine,Complete Diaries, June 12, 1895 entry.

24. "One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail." -- Rabbi Yaacov Perrin, Feb. 27, 1994 [Source: N.Y. Times, Feb. 28, 1994, p. 1]

25. "We Jews, we are the destroyers and will remain the destroyers. Nothing you can do will meet our demands and needs. We will forever destroy because we want a world of our own." (You Gentiles, by Jewish Author Maurice Samuels, p. 155).

26. "We will have a world government whether you like it or not. The only question is whether that government will be achieved by conquest or consent." (Jewish Banker Paul Warburg, February 17, 1950, as he testified before the U.S. Senate).

27. "We will establish ourselves in Palestine whether you like it or not...You can hasten our arrival or you can equally retard it. It is however better for you to help us so as to avoid our constructive powers being turned into a destructive power which will overthrow the world." (Chaim Weizmann, Published in "Judische Rundschau," No. 4, 1920)

2006-07-18 19:28:48 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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