Below we have John 10:34 and a few passages preceding it:
Again the Jews picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus said to them, "I have shown you many great miracles from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?"
"We are not stoning you for any of these," replied the Jews, "but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God."
Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are gods'?
It refers to Psalm 82:6 which reads (below is passage 6 and 7):
"I said, 'You are "gods"; you are all sons of the Most High.' But you will die like mere men; you will fall like every other ruler."
I’d be interested in hearing people’s interpretation of these sections as they clearly states (from the mouth of Jesus and in one of the psalms) that we are all gods.
I think this is a passage that clearly shows that we have to see to the meaning of the words and not just take each and every word as absolute truth.
2006-07-18
17:27:38
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Mikael Svanstrom
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A few people have pointed out that Jesus used the reference to confuse his would-be-stoners. I think we can all agree on that, but he is refering to a psalm stating the same thing.
I am aware I am taking a few verses out of context, but that doesn't change the fact that the bible proclaims all of mankind Gods.
2006-07-18
17:41:38 ·
update #1
Yes, we are all Gods, as in a possession of.
In the Psalm passage , it is easy to go back to original text and find the word is a possesive term, as in belonging to.
FOr the John Passage, I had to go down to 36,37, and 38 in order to tie it together.
These words are also possessive and explained further with verse 38, that the father is in me, and I in him.
2006-07-18 17:42:06
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answered by cindy 6
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The LORD God Father and Almighty Power, the Lord God and Son of the Almighty Father and Power and all power has been given [ GIVEN ] me in heaven and on earth Matt.28:18-20; Can any hold such a position without being God.
2Cor.4:3,4; Satan is god of this world, his world is limited and will come to an end, he will loose his rank, status, place, an position.
John 10:34-36; Jesus was saying he was the son of God, but
Jesus called them gods to whom the word of God came.
Heb.4:12; the word of God is power. John 12:47,48; The word of God will Judge. Heb.9:27; It is appointed unto men once to die, after this the judgement. 2Cor.5:10; All will come before the judgement seat of Christ Jesus 1Cor.15:22; As in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
Though there be gods many and lords many Deut.10:17 [ there is only one true God ]; John 17:1-26; The least any can be is in one and unity, harmony and agreement that God's will be done
Matt.6:9-13;
Most all know there can only be one LORD God.
2006-07-19 08:51:34
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answered by jeni 7
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John 10:33 The Jews answered him, "It is not for a good work that we are going to stone you but for blasphemy, because you, being a man, make yourself God."
Read the passage in context and you will see that Jesus was making a point to refute their claim that He was commiting blasphemy.
John 10:34 Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your Law, 'I said, you are gods'? 35 If he called them gods to whom the word of God came--and Scripture cannot be broken-- 36 do you say of him whom the Father consecrated and sent into the world, 'You are blaspheming,' because I said, 'I am the Son of God'? 37 If I am not doing the works of my Father, then do not believe me; 38 but if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me and I am in the Father."
He was pointing out that in their Scriptures God had called them "gods" in their own minds, but that He actually was God as the signs and miracles that the Father had given Him to do should have testified to them. Jesus was putting it in their face about their hard hearts and hypocritical natures because they were in effect making themselves "gods" as their forefathers had by judging Him and seeking to kill Him.
That made them even angrier because they were hyper-religious Jews who knew the context of the passage He was quoting and that's why they redoubled their efforts to kill Him.
Psalms 82:2-8 "How long will you judge unjustly and show partiality to the wicked? Selah. 3 Give justice to the weak and the fatherless; maintain the right of the afflicted and the destitute. 4 Rescue the weak and the needy; deliver them from the hand of the wicked." 5 They have neither knowledge nor understanding, they walk about in darkness; all the foundations of the earth are shaken. 6 I said, "You are gods, sons of the Most High, all of you; 7 nevertheless, like men you shall die, and fall like any prince." 8 Arise, O God, judge the earth; for you shall inherit all the nations!
John 10:39 Again they sought to arrest him, but he escaped from their hands.
2006-07-19 00:42:01
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answered by Martin S 7
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I bet if a bunch of bigots tried long enough they could interpret the Bible to say that baboons were sinners because they don't wear pants.
The story about a Christian converting to Islam is also interesting. The reason you don't often hear of the Muslims converting to Christianity is that Muslims kill those that try to convert to any other religion.
The thing that is clear about the Judaism-Christian-Muslim religion is that they all spring from the same primitive, barbaric, violent tribal culture, that glories in their own righteous exclusivity which enables adherents to kill non-believers on a whim like a cartoon. It also produces a culture of religiosity that is easily co-opted by governments and merchants to keep the masses controlled.
Any stupid belief can be promulgated by various interpretation of vague scripture. All three major branches have a multitude of sects and sub sects, all willing to kill the non-believer.
"According to the Bible" is a pathetic and silly phrase.
2006-07-19 00:31:39
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answered by valcus43 6
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The psalms verse was a sarcasm.
Jesus used the verse to confuse the would-be stoners.
I know. Way too simple, and nobody will want to believe it. But there it is. What's up with the 20 page cut and paste job???
2006-07-19 00:37:17
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answered by Anonymous
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the gods pertaining above is not the actually identity of God. but Gods as the sons of the most high as Ps 82:6 stated. it would be more correct that we are the Sons of the Most High, the Sons of God, rather then we are Gods. as the word Gods pertaining in Ps 82:6 is explaining the our relationship with God as it written.
2006-07-19 00:44:49
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answered by Meakness 2
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Atheists often accuse "religious" people of being closed-minded, not doing their research, and always wanting the easiest answer. Can't these same people be accused of the same thing. How many of them when quoting the bible, actually do research, put the bible verse into context in relation to other verses, keep in mind cultural and historical information that may be relevent to that verse. It's easy to pick out a verse and quote it, much harder to do research and put thought into the actual context of that verse.
2006-07-19 00:34:10
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answered by plebes02 3
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Jesus was questioning their double standard... the Israelite rulers and judges called themselves gods in that time period... when they got on Jesus' case for claiming to be God he was in effect saying... "you claim to be gods... how is my claiming to be God blasphemy?"
Make Sense???
Make sure you read at least the entire chapter for the context... just reading one or two verses rarely gives you the full picture...
2006-07-19 00:37:50
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answered by Anonymous
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I think it is clear.
We are all Gods. Children of the most High.
Jesus claimed himself to be God. He stated that all men are Gods. We partook of the fruit and became like God. We were made in God's image. We are his children. We can inherit everything God has and become heirs along with Christ.
Clearly we have more potential than Christians admit.
2006-07-19 00:34:17
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answered by theogodwyn 3
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In the Old Testament the word "god" (Elohim) was sometimes used to refer to men who were representatives of God (Yahweh). Jesus' point is that if representatives of God can be referred to as "gods," why should it bother them to hear him say that he was God's son? Jesus does seem to be toying with them.
2006-07-19 01:05:02
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answered by happygirl 6
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