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Question

Thank you for not jumping all over my question on when immigration became illegal! I appreciate it! See I know all about how the process works now, I am married to a immigrant from Honduras, from day 1 we have been working with INS officals, because in all honesty b4 9-11 it was so easy to enter the USA that my husband basiclly just drove in, noone stopped him. It was ignorant on his part but in some parts of the world there is no media, and they just dont even know that it is illegal to come here with out the proper papers, ecpecally if noone stops you at the border. But as soon as my husband found out, he "turned himself in" to INS. He is still tecnecally "illegal" but INS knows he is here. Does that mean that he should be deported? NOw just to make this clear...I dont think that all illegals that come here un-documented are "unaware" of our laws, some may be (most know dam well) that was just the case with my husband.

(sealRboarders) I ecpecally want to know what you think about this.

Thanks (mimilundgren) we do have a lawyer

Thank you (sealRboarders) I wanted to know what you thaught basically because you feel so strongly on this touchy subject. I do agree with you on some points, others I do not, but everyone has their right.

Answer 1

Well, if he did turn himself in, that is more than I can say for most of the illegal Mexicans. That is where our biggest problem comes from when it comes to illegal immigration.

Answer 2

I think there's been deliberate circumnavigation of our immigration laws, I think when you see people advertising green cards, the whole thing's become a corrupt racket, and that has to be HELL on the agencies that are supposed to be actually enforcing whatever policy finally gets passed.

Immigration reform, in the minds of most people, I believe, first involves a better enforcement concept. Since our biggest immigration problem involves people from Mexico and central america, the enforcement focus is going to have to be on those countries.

'Ignorance of the law is no excuse' has long been a courtroom buzz-phrase, and "I didn't know' usually doesn't buy you much leniency, maybe some, but you can only ride that train so far.
This is the 21st century, computers, cell-phones, that whole bit,
and the illegal immigration problem didn't start yesterday. Nor did all the hype and rhetoric surrounding the problem.

America's got money. Many other countries have NO money. Hence the draw in moving to/living in the US. Many immigrants have literally lived the american dream, moving to a new country, building up a fortune, and living the good life. I have no quarrel with that, I think that's laudable. Buuuuuut, there's also everybody ELSE that came to america, seeking that same 'good life', only to find that that whole song-and-dance doesn't really live up to the billing, not even for people that were born in our country. This is also known as 'welcome to the REAL world'. Enter the illegal aspect of all of this. Crime DOES pay, at least in the short term,
and when US employers are given the 'opportunity' to make a buck by disregarding employment laws, and document forgers have made it fairly easy to masquerade yourself as thus-and-such, any attempt at differentiating who's coming in legally and who's not is very difficult. So difficult in fact as to become nearly impossible, I think, and then you get into identity theft etc.

Most americans have no use for a mexican gardener/housekeeper/etc. Don't want one, don't need one, can't afford one anyway. That's how tight it is for a lot of people in our good ol' US of A. Enter the Enterprising Politician, the guy who's got a pal in the fruit-packing business etc. Let's call him 'larry', and his fruit-packing friend will be 'joe'. Larry doesn't think much of your Average American to begin with, he's better than that, which is why he went for public office to begin with. His friend Joe is 'exceptional', too, and by golly they know better than any ol' government policy on immigration. So, Larry decides to go on a Big Campaign to promote 'immigration', puts the crying babies in front of the camera, shows that same picture that the 'save the children' campaign's been using for the last 20 years, he pulls out ALL the stops to try and convince you to vote in favor of a bill that ACTUALLY only benefits one person in this world, namely his buddy Joe, who's now ROLLING in money because of all the money he's made off hiring illegals at 1/2 the cost of hiring americans.

My point is, we have laws. We can either choose to enforce them, or disregard them, but we've still got these law things.
I don't know what the ultimate outcome of all this will be, but I do know that people tend to go for money over principles.

Ask yourself what kind of country you'd prefer to live in, one that upholds the law, or one that goes for the Easy Money. Decisions, decisions...

Answer 3

I want a secure border, limited immigration, interior enforcement and protected education and services for our own people. If I had that I'd be for amnesty for screened illegals (but not to quadrupal their numbers by bringing in more absent family as happened after the last amnesty.) That is for all sorts of reasons the main one being that I blame our government for not enforcing our laws. However, I think the laws DO need to be enforced going forward.

Answer 4

You want to know what i think??
Ok,i'll tell you! It's hard for me to believe that your husband "did not know" it was illegal, to just come into this country! I mean, if i was going to another country,i would FIRST,find out their laws!!

But, i will "take your word for it", that he did not know he was committing a crime. If this is true, and he DID "turn himself in", after realizing his mistake, then i will have to say that i admire him for that,and he should be given a chance to stay. As long as his LOYALTY is to THIS country!! I'm NOT saying he should give up his pride in his own heritage, i'm just saying that his first loyalty should be to this country!!!! I am not "heartless" just because i do NOT like our country being INVADED by a third-world country!! And,just because i do NOT like foreigners sneaking into this country to ABUSE our system!!!!!!!!!!!

MY problem, is with those that DELIBERATELY and KNOWINGLY break our laws!!!! And, these illegals KNOW they are committing a crime because that's why they are always HIDING out!!!

Answer 5

At this point, I don't think anyone doesn't know what's happening now. That's why in my opinion after it is reaffirmed to be the felony it is, amnesty would be deportation with dignity and no jail time or fines or anything of the sort.

Answer 6

Please understand that in this country and in most others...ignorance of the law is no excuse...

You need to get a really good immigration lawyer. It will be worth the cost in the long run....

Answer 7

I don't believe some one don't know what mean BORDER.Anyway see a lawyer need pay some fines.

Answer 8

no papers still illegal.