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If God is all-powerful he could have created a world where no sorrow and suffering exist. Since in this world there is sorrow and suffering, either God is not all-powerful or else he is cruel to his children to make them suffer as many of them do. I cannot worship a God nor formulate a conception which justifies human suffering. Prayer to such a God seems to be mockery.

2006-07-17 23:26:47 · 24 answers · asked by Arthurpod 4 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Because of of agency man partook of the fruit and became fallen. It is through this that man experienced a fallen world to learn and grow, to learn the difference between good and bad, sickness and health, pleasure and pain. He also provided a Savior for us, that through our obedience to the gospel law we could once again return to His presence. Although God can not take these sorrows away from us He can lighten our burdens and He truly does understand what we go through.

2006-07-18 04:01:04 · answer #1 · answered by Angel 4 · 2 1

This answer is sooo long by the time I could write it out spell check it and submit about 100 people would have already answered. All your questions are about religion or god. If you believe in god then you already know the answer to that question.

If you don't I suggest you simply pick up the bible and read Genesis.

I agree you shouldn't believe in something you don't know alot about, but God isn't the one making us suffer, its us.

What you said was almost paramount to..why did he leave us to our selves? Haha yea were a pretty cruel species of people. Were the ones killing and starting wars not him. Though wars have been started over him.

And god did create a world with no suffering. It was called Eden. Everything you said can be basically answered by reading a few key chapters in the bible. Whether you agree with it is a different matter. The bible is been open to speculation...probably since the time it was first collaborated and published.

2006-07-17 23:40:46 · answer #2 · answered by Darkmaven 2 · 0 0

Judging from your other 6 questions, I gather that you are either mocking God or have a sincere quest to know more about him. God did not create suffering. He created a peaceful world for us to live in. However, man allowed sin to enter the world when he disobeyed God. (God loves us enough to give us free will to do what we want - man chose sin) When sin entered the world, it brought with it death, sickness, suffering, and tribulations. God knew that sin would cause this because when we sin, it gives Satan permission to work in our lives and the world. That is why he gave us rules/commandments not to sin. He did not want this to happen to us.

The suffering is actually now a reason, more than ever for mankind to realize that it does not have all the answers and is a wake-up call that we need God in our lives. When do you hear people cry out for God? - When they are in need/trouble. God made many promised to us. He never promised us that we would not suffer, but rather he said that we will have troubles. He did promise that if we do several things, then he will heal our lands (lives), but we must show our commitment by Humbling ourselves, Seeking God, and turn from our wickec ways.

2 Chroniciles 7:14 If my people, who are called by my name, shall HUMBLE themselves, and pray, and SEEK my face, and TURN from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

God is faithful and has made a covenant with us. All we have to do is keep up our end of the covenant. Give it a try.

The time we spend her on earth is not our destiny. our life on earth is ony a vapor in comparrision to all of eternity. the decisions you make now while you walk this planet will affect your whole eternity. God looks at the big picture - eternity; not just the time we spend here on earth.

If a gardner plants a fruit tree, there will be times that he needs to prune the tree. Does the tree want to be cut? The tree might ask the gardner, why are you so cruel? Why do you cut me and let me sit outside in the rain and lightning storms? What the tree doesnt know is that unles it is cut, it will not bear fruit like it should. If it comes inside from the wind and storms, it's branches will become too weak to support the small amout of fruit it does bear and will eventually die.

So, the sufferings that you see in this life are all part of a much larger picture. you cannot see the whole picture. that is also why God has told us to have faith and TRUST in Him. if we could do all things for ourselves (and we cant) we wouldnt need God.

2006-07-17 23:46:07 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

He did create such a world. We chose to leave it. We broke the one agreement we had, not to eat of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, and we therefore chose the consequence.

God is not a personal babysitter. Our species chose this. You are just dealing with the consequences. God doesn't need your worship. It isn't for his sake. It's for yours. It is a tool for you to use or choose not to. Again, the choice has always been yours for this, but the choice was made long ago to get kicked out of the garden because we couldn't resist the power to judge each other by something that doesn't, in truth, exist.

2006-07-18 00:05:46 · answer #4 · answered by mckenziecalhoun 7 · 0 0

Suffering and sorrow are not physical things. They are states of the mind. A consciousness existing in the fulfillment of the total capacity of its being does not experience suffering or sorrow.

Take a bird, as an easy example. A bird is designed to fly and to live a life dependent on flying, so if you clip its wings, and require it to live by hopping around, then you have diminished the bird in its capacity of being.

If a bird had a soul, then it would see other birds flying around and be terribly sad that all it could do is hop around.

If you take a man, that is a male human being, who has the capacity to perform acts of boldness, courage, daring, adventure, etc. etc. etc. and you bind him with insecurity and fear, then he will recognize in his mind the capacity to be a more developed impressive sort of person, but because of fear, inhibition, softness, etc. etc. etc. he is not achieving that full capacity of being, and that will create in him a sense of melancholy.

When you cut someone's legs off, you have taken away their ability to run. When you kill a child's parent you have taken away the source of strength and support through which that child finds the comfort to live its life and grow into adulthood.

Suffering and sorrow are not in the world because God put suffering and sorrow in the world, suffering and sorrow are states of the mind when a conscious being has been diminished in its life.

God does not diminish beings in their lives. He seeks to bring all beings to the full measure of their possible experience, but men delight in aggrandizing themselves by committing acts that diminish or altogether destroy the lives of their fellow men.

God did not make a world with suffering and sorrow. God simply made a world, and the acts that men commit within that world have impact on their fellow men and either increase the happiness or sorrow of another man.

God created men, but men created sorrow.

The only way that there would be no sorrow, is if God had made robots and only a pretend world. Then there would be no sorrow because there would be no emotion period.

You can only hold God accountable in this, if He has deprived men of joy.

But he has put forth a path to joy.

Does it not say, "And this is the condemnation that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light because their deeds were evil."

Quit wrestling with stupid made up in your head philosophical games and start focusing on living the life of humility and peace that reflects the character of God, and not the impulses of men.

2006-07-17 23:37:52 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

You're absolutely right - Religious folks will always try to contrive some convoluted reason why their god had to make the world the way it is, and couldn't possibly have made it any better, but ultimately all that is just a futile attempt at rationalisation, intended to explain away the fact that the universe looks exactly like a universe in which no god exists. There is almost no limit to the degree of self-deception necessary to maintain religious belief.

2006-07-17 23:37:11 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

It was perfect in the beginning. Now it's not. But it isn't GOD that makes it imperfect. Look how beautiful the world is, look at how it all seems to work together, except in the case of natural disaster (balance, that's why those occur). It's mankind that causes much of this suffering, not God.
Look to yourself, make sure you're not adding to the suffering. Each person must do what they can to hold one another up, through love and compassion.
This is what we were put here to do. Don't blame God for mankind's shortcomings. WE choose evil.

2006-07-17 23:36:45 · answer #7 · answered by The_Cricket: Thinking Pink! 7 · 0 0

This world of suffering and sorrow is *NOT* ruled by a loving god, but by an evil powerful spirit creature called Satan the Devil. The Scriptures help us understand that Jehovah and Jesus are about to step in and remove all wickedness in order to restore the peace and paradise that Satan, Adam, and Eve worked to destroy.

(1 John 5:19) The whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one.

(Luke 4:6) Devil said to him: “I will give you all this authority and the glory of them, because it has been delivered to me, and to whomever I wish I give it.

(John 12:31) Now there is a judging of this world; now the ruler of this world will be cast out.

(2 Corinthians 4:4) The god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, that the illumination of the glorious good news about the Christ, who is the image of God, might not shine through.

(Psalms 37:11) 'the meek will possess the earth'
(Proverbs 2:21) 'upright will reside in the earth'
(Isaiah 45:18) 'God formed the earth to be inhabited'
(Matthew 5:5) 'the mild will inherit the earth'
(Revelation 21:3) The tent of God is with mankind

Incidentally, "Eternal Father" is actually not Almighty God Jehovah, but the Son Jesus Christ:

(Isaiah 9:6-7) For there has been a child born to us, there has been a son given to us; and the princely rule will come to be upon his shoulder. And his name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace. To the abundance of the princely rule and to peace there will be no end

Learn more:
http://watchtower.org

2006-07-18 00:42:26 · answer #8 · answered by achtung_heiss 7 · 0 0

God created all things, and they were all good. But sin came into the world through temptation and disobedience to God. That changed everything for us. It seperates us to this day from God, for according to Romans 3:23 we all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. The penalty of sin is death...not just of the body, but the second death -- see Rev. 20, 21. This is the lake of fire for eternity. But God FIRST loved us...loved us so much that the Father sent His only Son to live a sinless life and die a sin-bearing death as an atonement for all of our sins. Jesus was a sacrifice for us. The Father through His love, extended grace and mercy, opening a way....a way we could not earn or buy on our own...to return into a fellowship in heaven with Him. In a way the Bible is a love story between God and man, and the main character is Jesus.

Now if your question is...given that God knew this would happen, why did He make us anyway? Well, nobody but God can answer that. What I do know is that God calculated the costs and still created us, knowing that His own Son would be murdured. We are part of a larger picture...a war between God and the principalities of darkness. Interestingly, we already know the victor...but the path is not always easy, nor fair, nor fun, nor the way we always want it to be. Nevertheless, Jesus reminds us that His life was not fair either, yet, through faith in Him, He will help us get through anything with a peace from HIm that passes understanding. That, with the hope of my salvation, lets me live life far more abundantly today. The key is faith in Jesus as my Lord and Savior.

Be careful questioning God as to why you were made as you are. In Romans *, I think, we have the parable of the pots and the Potter. In the end, the Potter made each pot differently, and according to His desires. It is not the place of the pot to ask the Potter why it was made as it was, and not like another. Each pot was made in its own way to bring glory to the Potter.

Guard against such unbelief...it shows a waning of faith. It portends a lack of reverence for God...simply for who He is, regardless of what He has or will do. I leave you with these two passages to ponder.

The first is from Jeremiah 29:19, "'For I know the plans I have for you,' declares the Lord, 'plans for welfare and not for calamity to give you a future and a hope. Then you will call upon Me and come and pray to Me, and I will listen to you. You will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all of your heart.'"

The last is from Deut. 32:39, "See now that I, I am He, And there is no god besides Me; It is I who put to death and give life. I have wounded and it is I who heal, And there is no one who can deliver from My hand."

2006-07-17 23:50:59 · answer #9 · answered by BowtiePasta 6 · 0 0

You do not understand at all God's plan. God's plan is not for this earth, but for an eternal kingdom called Heaven where He will spend eternity with His people. God does not want His people to become attached to this world because it is passing away. God wants His people to set their affection on things above. Pain and suffering (including death), the results of sin, are necessary to keep people from becoming attached to this world and if people responded correctly it would turn them to God, not away from Him, get their priorities right, and start to build a relationship with God that will last for eternity.

2006-07-17 23:38:41 · answer #10 · answered by oldguy63 7 · 0 0

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