It wasn't stated explicitely by God, if that's what you mean. That doesn't necessarily make it wrong, however. Papal infallibility states that "the Roman Pontiff, when he speaks ex cathedra -- that is, when in the exercise of his office as pastor and teacher of all Christians he defines, by virtue of his supreme Apostolic authority, a doctrine of faith or morals to be held by the whole Church -- is, by reason of the Divine assistance promised to him in blessed Peter, possessed of that infallibility with which the Divine Redeemer wished His Church to be endowed in defining doctrines of faith and morals; and consequently that such definitions of the Roman Pontiff are irreformable of their own nature (ex sese) and not by reason of the Church's consent." Take special not that it's only on religious matters (and not, say, scientific) and in the exercise of his office. This does not seem to me to be entirely unreasonable. Some of the Biblical backing for it comes from Matt. 16:17-19, John 21:15-17, and Luke 22:32. And if you look at historical evidence for papal religious proclamations, it seems to my mind to be supported.
2006-07-17 16:49:19
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answered by Caritas 6
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It is definately a man made doctrine and can be proven if you will but look at the Catholic Encyclopedia and check out the history. In one of the councils, they made up the doctrine of the infallibility of the Pope, can't recall which now but it can be looked up fairly easily. No, I do not support any of the new Dogmas as they are not consistant with former teachings, nor are they according to the bible teachings of the Catholic bible even, much less the normal bible. Show me anywhere in any bible that says the pope is infallible and I will kiss his foot. Just not there.
2006-07-17 16:49:48
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answered by ramall1to 5
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I guess my questions for you would be, do you fully understand what the Church teaches about Papal infallibility? It has to be under strict circumstances and based only on matters of faith or morals---and has only been invoked (I believe off the top of my head) three times in human history? If you do not know that small bit about it, I suggest you do some research.
Secondly.....which 'new Dogmas' are you speaking of? It is hard to comment on something so broad.
2006-07-17 16:47:02
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answered by Michelle A 4
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Papal infllibility is not a man-made doctrine. Jesus Christ himself promised that whatever Peter (the first pope) held bound or loosed on Earth would be ratified in heaven (i.e. by God). This is not a new dogma. If you read the early christian fathers you will see that all of the first christians believed this.
Read about it here. http://www.geocities.com/orthodox_doctrine/
Tertullian:
Was anything withheld from the knowledge of Peter, who is called “the rock on which the Church would be built” [Matt. 16:18] with the power of “loosing and binding in heaven and on earth” [Matt. 16:18]? (Demmurrer against the Heretics 22: A.D. 200).
Cyprian of Carthage:
The Lord says to Peter: “I say to you,” he says, “that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of hell will not overcome it” [Matt. 16:18]. On him [Peter] he builds the Church, and to him he gives the command to feed the sheep [John 21:17], and although he assigns a like power to all the apostles, yet he founded a single chair [cathedra], and he established by his own authority a source and an intrinsic reason for that unity… If someone [today] does not hold fast to this unity of Peter, can he imagine that he still holds the faith? If he deserts the chair of Peter upon whom the Church was built, can he still be confident that he is in the Church? (The Unity of the Catholic Church 4, first edition: A.D. 251).
Jerome:
[Pope] Stephen… was the blessed Peter’s twenty-second successor in the See of Rome (Against the Luciferians 23; A.D. 383).
Augustine:
"For if the lineal succession of bishops is to be taken into account, with how much more certainty and benefit to the Church do we reckon back till we reach Peter himself, to whom, as bearing in a figure the whole Church, the Lord said: ‘Upon this rock will I build my Church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it !’ The successor of Peter was Linus, and his successors in unbroken continuity were these: -- Clement, Anacletus, Evaristus, Alexander, Sixtus, Telesphorus, Iginus, Anicetus, Pius, Soter, Eleutherius, Victor, Zephirinus, Calixtus, Urbanus, Pontianus, Antherus, Fabianus, Cornelius, Lucius, Stephanus, Xystus, Dionysius, Felix, Eutychianus, Gaius, Marcellinus, Marcellus, Eusebius, Miltiades, Sylvester, Marcus, Julius, Liberius, Damasus, and Siricius, whose successor is the present Bishop Anastasius. (To Generosus, Epistle 53:2 A.D. 400, in NPNF1,I:298)
If all men throughout the world were such as you most vainly accuse them of having been, what has the chair of the Roman Church done to you, in which Peter sat, and in which Anastasius sits today? (Against the Letters of Petilani 2:118; A.D. 402).
The charge that 'some popes said that the world was flat' is irrelivant. Papal infallibility only applies to matters of faith and morals. It doesn't mean that the pope doesn't sin; it doesn't mean that the pope is perfect. Only that whatever he cannot make a mistake when speaking in the full capacity of his office concerning faith and morals.
Also, no pope ever burned anybody. This is a common misconception started by anti-catholic propagandists in the middle-ages. Mostly kings burned whitches, heretics, and later Catholics. They were tried by civil courts, not a Church tribunal.
2006-07-17 17:15:20
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answered by infinity 3
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Papal Infallibility is man made. Popes in the past said that the world was flat, and burned those who disagreed at the stake. Even Peter, who is supposed to be the first pope, could be an idiot from time to time. I've heard it said that he had "foot in mouth disease"
2006-07-17 16:46:46
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answered by strausseman 2
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Mat 16:18 And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
Mat 16:19 And I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt bind upon earth, it shall be bound also in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth, it shall be loosed also in heaven.
What could be plainer?
Here Jesus Christ tells Peter that he will back up from his throne in heaven, whatever Peter OFFICIALLY chooses to bind or loose on earth.
What can be more infallible than that?
Only those who have a personal or traditional problem with accepting the God given authority and office of the pope, have a problem accepting this very literal passage from scripture.
Too bad.
2006-07-17 23:37:06
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answered by Anonymous
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1 John 3:10 tells us that this is not found in the Bible. You ask about "New Dogmas" . How new are you thinking of? If it is not talked about in the Bible, then it is not true.
2006-07-17 18:19:46
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answered by Buzz s 6
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Yes, it is man mad doctrine, and nowhere in the bible is it supported.
I can show you where it is unsupported though.
For all have sinned and fall short of the Glory of GOD.
NO apostle, including Peter was exempt from this statement,and no man will ever be exempt from this statement.
All means all, not just in special circumstances.
2006-07-17 17:03:32
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answered by cindy 6
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The total RC Cult is man made!
Have you read the new RC Catechism!
YUK! Worse and worse, bu the Century.
see below
2006-07-17 16:47:44
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answered by whynotaskdon 7
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are these the same dogmas the new pope held back in his nazi days?
2006-07-17 16:54:58
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answered by Anonymous
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