How many times has the average Mormon taken the Bloody Oath?

Question

It allegedly is a part of the temple ceremony at least once, and is assumed to be a carry over of the practices Joseph Smith introduced and had borrowed from Freemasonry. Joseph Smith had been a Freemason before he founded the Mormon religion.

http://www.ylana.com/newsicke.htm

http://www.bibleprobe.com/freemasonry.htm

http://www.freemasonrywatch.org
Follow the links.

Renegade Mormons also have described the oaths and handshakes over the Internet.

I have not invented any such association.

Is it possible that the Bloody Oath now goes by another name within the Mormon Church organization, but is basically the same practice and configuration of words?

I am having a hard time believing some of the answers that have been submitted by Mormons. I think that if any innocent Mormons were to view this question and some of answers that have been coming in from their fellow organization members, they might have a better idea of what the Mormon religious organization is about.

Someone I know of recently asked some Mormon proselytizers about the Bloody Oath, and was told, in response, not that it did not exist, but that an individual would have to have reached a certain stage of Mormonism before being ready to learn about it. The accosted person then asked them, "Why can't you tell me everything at once and in sequence?", to which a satisfactory reply allegedly was not given. I am also wondering why Mormons do not discuss more openly the Ying and Yang Gnostic doctrine that is admitted to be a part of the temple instruction.

NeoArt, I do not agree with your Freemasonry doctrine and practices. However, I feel I must give you credit where credit is due. I am well aware of the limitations of David Icke's theories. Like your Gnostic Freemasonry doctrine, his ideas contain a lot of ying and yang, plus science fiction. However, the notion that my inlaw uncle, "Uncle Thirty-third Degree Scotty"'s ethnic group might contain the highest proportion of reptilian DNA, is just a little too much to resist, given the way his family carries on! I also know some decent people of the same culture, one of whom professes to hate bagpipes because they can lure people into aspects of a culture that are not innocent (namely Freemasonry).

I agree the the world in on the brink of World War III. Why? It seems to be Freemasonry and related theft.

Re. Co-Masonry: Don't tell me the women are now asserting their robbery rights?!! A while back it was called Feminism. I am sure many of them are "successful" in the world.

Mormonism is theft.

Answer 1

Once. Three times.

Answer 2

Joseph Smith only attended 6 or so Freemason meetings in his lifetime. The Mormon Temple Endowment Ceremony does seem patterned after Freemason rituals, yet this is a convenient similarity (convenient for those who wish to attack the "Mormons").

Mormons practice temple worship, just as that which was practiced in the Old Testament days prior to the apostasy, when the Jews became wicked in God's sight and were scattered and destroyed, prior to Christ being born. The ancient temple truths, rites, and lessons were lost until God decided to restore them via Joseph Smith.

Freemasonry today can thank the earliest Solomon Temple masons for some of what constitutes the Mason rituals of today. The Freemason rituals have been added to and diluted since the ancient Solomon era to the point that they no longer contain the purest truths that existed back in the Old Testament temple rituals.

God desired to restore the ancient temple truths to the earth and did so through His modern prophet, Joseph Smith. Hence, the truths were given to Joseph Smith, who, perhaps in part due to his being impressed by the logical and easy way in which the Freemasons delivered lessons to their adherents via a structured ceremony, may have patterned the modern Mormon temple Endowment Ceremony "structure" to that of the Freemason structure. Yet, the truths delivered or taught via the Mormon Endowment Ceremony far surpass any truths taught via the Freemason rituals. The method of delivery of the truths is not the issue here. As an example, It doesn't matter if I give you a drink of water in a glass labeled Bloody Oath or in a glass without any labeling. As long as you get a drink, th object has been accomplished. So, if the Masons take a Bloody Oath, and Joseph Smith initially included such an oath in the earliest Mormon Temple Endowment Ceremony, then that is not anything to become alarmed about. The modern Mormon Temple Endowment Ceremony (2006 version) does not include ANY oaths of any kind. However, promises and covenants are indeed made as one receives the Mormon Temple Endowment by way of the structured ceremony/ritual.

For all those who are not "Mormon," please seek any information about the Mormons from an active and stalwart, church-going Mormon. The asker of this question is simply seeking to create controversy and is NOT a Mormon in good standing.

It is human nature to be skeptical about concepts or people or facts with which we are not familiar or do not fully understand. That is why so many people are constantly questioning the Mormons and their religion. Such inexperienced and ignorant people who do not understand the Mormons rely upon hearsay and rumor in order to form opinions. It is better to seek out all details of a subject prior to becoming alarmed and taking a defensive (or worse offensive) stance and try to tear the "Mormon" religion down..

Answer 3

I do not belong to the LDS church but I am a member of American Co-Masonry (Freemasonry for WOMEN and men). I actually read your links and do you know who you are quoting there? You are linking people to David Icke (rhymes with "bike"). David believes that the people in control of this world are not the Freemasons, Mormons, JWs, International Bankers, but LIZARDS!!!!

Read that first link. I am serious. He is flogging his book "The Biggest Secret" (just in case our questioner pulls that link, you can google for the book). Yep, great reference.

For the record, I know some very wonderful Mormon folks, great Buddhists, cool Muslims, some very esoteric Jews, sexy Hindus, and wow! the Wiccans!!! I suggest, and it is only the suggestion of this Co-Mason (whom regular Freemasons may not even admit exist) that you yourself go out and make friends first with PEOPLE and eventually find out what their religion is. Then leave aside any differences. That is what we Freemasons try to do. That is my Oath: the Golden Rule.

In case you haven't noticed, we are teetering on the brink of World War III, and it is about Religion. Please, please, please. Take a deep breath and start extending your hand to your neighbor. We are not all lizards. If I turn into one, you can swat me then.

Answer 4

I've been going to the temple regularly for 2 years now. I served a 2 year mission for the Church before that. I've never taken a "Bloody Oath"

Answer 5

Mormons don't take a Bloody Oath. Don't get your information about a religion from the hate sites.

Answer 6

What is the Bloody Oath?

Stop going to the HATE sites and go to the real ones.

www.lds.org

Answer 7

**Sighs** We don't have secret handshakes, or a Bloody Oath. That is just a stupid rumor started by someone who seriously needs to get a life!

Answer 8

Sigh, there is no such thing as a bloody oath. You need to check your references.

Answer 9

Another internet rumor. Another attempted lie against the mormons.

Answer 10

I got the "bloody oath" once, but hey, I was shot!