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I mean jesus was supposed to die for our sins! you can't be a martyr and die of natural causes! i feel that an explanation is required and the Jews aren't the ones who captured him in the first place, and they just chose not to save him!

2006-07-17 11:38:59 · 56 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

what i mean is in the shakespeare play the merchant of venice Shylock the Jew is disliked because of the jesus thing, it may not still be true but it used to be

2006-07-17 11:44:10 · update #1

56 answers

Because of Mel Gibson

2006-07-21 08:30:52 · answer #1 · answered by Josh23232323bluejays 3 · 1 2

There was a political aspect to the story also. The Bible tells the story but isn't too clear on some things. Alot of the Jews saw Jesus and believed who He was. The Jews also had a very tenuous relationship with Rome.

The Jews managed to keep the people under control and had some autonomy from Rome as a result.

Politically, Caiaphus (I may have spelled that wrong) a Jewish leader felt that if Jesus asked or had the people follow him, they were afraid that Rome may come down on the Jews pretty hard and many jews will die in the onslaught. In the book of John, I think, it says that Caiaphus said to the others that it would be better for one man to die for the Jews rather than many(at the hands of the Roman army)--if they were to revolt. So, that is one of the reasons they urged the romans to arrest him as they did.

I don't think Christians blame the Jews. It is silly in that in the grand scheme of things Jesus had to suffer one way or the other and this is just how it happened. Anyone who "blames" the Jews or anyone else is a little off the mark as far as what Jesus death gave to them. How it happened is relatively immaterial.

2006-07-17 11:50:48 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

What a theological minefield we have here! Was it the Jews fault? The Romans? Christs' followers for not attempting to rescue him? Or was it all preprogrammed and it was the will of God?
True, everybody has the choice to do or not do the will of God. Judas didn't have to betray him, but he did. (If you believe the 4 gospels interreptations of the events). It is curious to note that the first gospel to be written (Mark) is the least scathing of Judas' role in the betrayal - Anti-semetic feelings at that time were low. But the other gospels went for the jugular at a time when the Jews popularity was about as high as when Hitler came into power. (We all know what he did).
Apparently there are over 40 gospels and because there were so many conflicting stories, those that favoured the Jews were rejected and those that condemned them were admitted.
From what we can learn about Annas and Ciaphas (two pharisees of the Sanhydrin) they were concerned not just with the possibilty of having The Son of God in front of them, or The King of the Jews, but also the political turmoil and social unrest it would lead to. Judea was under occupation by the Romans and there were many factions trying to force the Romans out. Barrabas was one of many leaders and it was thought that Jesus was another rebel speaking out against tyranny and injustice.
Who's to blame? I'm not going to point a finger at anyone person or at any one race, people or religion. If Christ hadn't died on the cross, there would be no Christianity today as we know it. There would be no forgiveness of sins and Jesus' teachings might have been lost forever. Who would you blame if that had happened? Of course it is an impossible question to answer because none of us would be aware of what had happened all those years ago.

2006-07-17 12:26:03 · answer #3 · answered by markspanishfly 2 · 0 0

The mankind always want to have an scapegoat and it should be very dangerous to point out the Romans to have killed Josua ben Maria at that time. The whole thing is poetry, it is a fiction as there are no proof the Josua ben Maria ever have existed, but it is made up by Salus or as he called him self later on Palus. Palus was a very well educated person of his time and were familiar with the old Greek philosophers. He made a new story of the stories about Socrates made by Platon earlier. Many of the words in The New Testament spoken by Jousa/Jesus can be found word by word in the scriptures made by the Greek philosophers 400 years before. To this he added some parts of the Old Testament as a proof of his adage. A true and good story. Poetry can never be a lie.

2006-07-20 21:56:50 · answer #4 · answered by Realname: Robert Siikiniemi 4 · 0 0

1. To "Self Righteous:" Actually more Jews than Christians supported the Civil Rights Movement. In all those pictures of white folk joining in with the black folk to march, most all of those white people where Jews. Many, many Jews died marching for Civil Rights, so if I were you, I'd take a farking history class before opening that ignorant pie hole.

2. Ignorant Christians do blame Jews. Educated Christians do not. Think of it like this: the Jewish people have always (until the destruction of the Second Temple) been a sacrifical people, that is that they made sacrifices to please G-d and to show him their devotion. Jesus was a sacrifice, a martyr. He had to die for the sins of mankind, and in order for that death to be a sacrifice to G-d that showed him mankind's devotion, the Jewish people had to be the ones who denied them. However, to say that the Jewish people killed Jesus is plainly incorrect. The Romans captured, crucified, and thus killed Jesus. Additionally, there is no way that the Jewish people would have recognized Jesus as the Christ. Reread the New Testament, circling all the referrences to the Old Testament. Then, see if those referrences ring true or not. Mostly, they don't. Jesus was unable to prove himself in the way that the Jewish people required in order to recognize anyone as a Christ figure.

Regardless, if you're a Christian and you're happy you're a Christian, be thankful that Jesus died for your sins.

If you're a Jew, and you like being a Jew, be thankful that a segment of the Jewish population realized that G-d had more in store for you.

If you're a hater, get over yourself.

And on a personal note to Christians who Bible-bang and say horrible things to people whom they don't even know: wasn't it your Christ who said, "May he who is without sin cast the first stone?" I seriously doubt that *anyone* is sinless, so you shut your pie holes, too.

And I say that with love...

- A person who believes fully in G-d but also believes that no one should fight, kill, or die for or because of religion.

2006-07-17 12:02:38 · answer #5 · answered by Allison G 2 · 0 0

You need to look a little at the history. The Romans had invaded Palestine, but they allowed the Jewish leaders to maintain some control over the people, especially as regards being allowed to practise their religion. The Jewish leaders knew that if the Jews rebelled against the Romans they would be massacred and the Temple destroyed (as eventually happened in AD 70). So they wanted to encourage people to go along with the Romans to some degree - basically they were collaborators. They didn't want anyone running round with people believing they were the "anointed one" or Messiah (in Jewish history, the anointed one was a royal leader who was anointed with oil by the High Priest). The Jews believed the Messiah was a chosen one sent by God to liberate them.

The Jewish Leaders were afraid their people would rebel if they thought they had a divinely appointed hero to lead them to victory. In order to keep the peace it made more sense to sacrifice the nutjobs or trouble makers who were trying to incite rebellion, instead of allowing people to get all fired up to fight and then get slaughtered.

Of course there may have been some petty emotions involved - fear, jealousy etc - but Jesus was certainly not the only "rebel" who was crucified by the Romans.

That's quite aside from what people believe about Jesus being the Son of God, or not.

2006-07-17 12:04:22 · answer #6 · answered by ariadne2003uk 2 · 0 0

While it is true that the Romans captured Him and eventually executed Him, it was teh JEWS (more specifically the Pharasees) that plotted for it to happen. Judas went to the JEWS to betray Jesus, not to the Romans. It was the Rabbis that then turned him over to the Romans. When Pilate attempted to set him free, it was the Jews that denied Him and screamed for Barabbas to be released.
Now, having said that, I do NOT blame the Jews of today for His death any more than I blame the Catholics of today for the Crusades and the killing of all of the Muslims in the Middle Ages. It is simply the facts of the case.
Jesus, according to Christian dogma, was killed to atone for our sins. As I am definately a sinner, then that means he died for my sins. If everyone wants someone to blame, then I accept it with no exception.

2006-07-17 11:46:26 · answer #7 · answered by Bradly S 5 · 0 0

Surely any proper Christian would forgive either the Romans or the Jews for the way in which they treated Jesus. Not blame them!

Plus a proper Christian realises that Jesus dying for our sins was an essential part of God's plan to defeat Satan.

2006-07-17 11:55:27 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Although the Jews did kill Jesus this was supposed to happen like the bible said it was planned before the earth was made, so we are not to hold the Jews responable for killing him, if they didnt the world would be much different (in a bad way). Anyway we can not blame acient Jewish actions on modern day Jews, thats like blameing modern Christians for the crusade killings.

2006-07-17 11:45:00 · answer #9 · answered by noachian 2 · 0 0

When Pontius Pilate or whatever the roman leaders name was, that had Jesus and a murderer named Barrabas up in front of the crowd of mostly Jews, he didn't want to kill Jesus. So, thinking that if he made an offer of which to kill, they'd want to kill the murderer. But he was wrong. Most of the people, the pharisees and saddusees, and the others influenced by them, called for the blood of Jesus. Yes, the Jews themselves didn't kill Jesus, but seems like I remember someone in the bible telling the Jews that the blood of Jesus was on their hands.

2006-07-17 11:43:52 · answer #10 · answered by merlin_steele 6 · 0 0

Don't Christians blame there own sin for Jesus death. He could have lived forever but chose to die for sins... so I believe the Christians blame themselves. Not Jews.

Besides that Jesus IS a Jew! Christian worships Jews not bash them.

2006-07-17 11:41:44 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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