Protestants! Why don't you listen to Christ when...?

Question

He says to say the Loder's Prayer or the Our Father in Matthew Chapter 5 under the subtitle of 'Jesus teaches Prayer' or something like that?

I meant Lord's Prayer.

Bumpty bump

Nobody can answer me...wow.

Sorry...didn't see you guys.

All my Protestant friends haven't a clue and thought the pope made it up. You guys realize that the Catholic Church is the only one that dates to Christ's time right?

How is it a model when he SPECIFICALLY tells you to pray it....somebody post what he says online please.

Since you guys do pray...someone recite it please....I'm Roman Catholic

I see...don't quote something He told us to pray...in other words... disobey God which is a sin...no thanks.

You do know that Protestants took 6 books out of the Catholic bible when they copied it.

I don't care how old the church is, I care about what the Bible says.

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My point was proven....you care what the bible says so you read a bible 6 books short and you think Jesus is being sarcastic when he says 'This is my Body'

Give me a Catholic belief that's unbiblical

Answer 1

I pray the Lord's Prayer at the beginning every time I pray, it helps me focus.

"You guys realize that the Catholic Church is the only one that dates to Christ's time right?" The Catholic Church is a direct discendent of Judaism (which we all are, but the Catholics really stepped it up). That is why they have many of the very formal-type services and such. I do not agree with many of their teachings and believe them to be unbiblical in some respects. I don't care how old the church is, I care about what the Bible says.

"'Pray, then, in this way:
'Our Father who is in heaven,
Hallowed be Your name.
Your kingdom come
Your will be done,
On earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors.
And do not lead us into temptation, but deliver us from evil. [For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.]'" (Matthew 6:9-13)

Edit: I don't mean to turn this into an arguement, I'm sure there are some truly saved Christians in the Catholic church. But to answer you..."The Church teaches that 'baptism is necessary for salvation' (Catechism, 1257)..." "For by grace you have been saved through FAITH; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast." (Ephesians 2:8-9) That's one thing. Also you must confess your sins to a priest. "Therefore, confess your sins to one another..." (James 5:16) It doesn't say "Confess your sins to a clergy dude." How about purgatory?

But also I think Catholics have become very liberal over the years and maybe need to listen to God more and take the word more seriously.

For example...
-Slightly more than two-thirds of Catholics (68%) say the devil is non-existant and only a symbol of evil. (2006).
-29% of Catholics have read the Bible in the past week, not including when they were at church. (2006)

And if you want to read up on the Apocryphal books, go here: http://www.probe.org/content/view/25/77/

Answer 2

---If we had to pray it and it was not just a model, how come there is not one person in the Bible that actually prayed it? There are many prayers in the Bible. Not one of them is the Lord's prayer.
---Prayer is about connecting with God. I don't feel I connect with God when I just recite something over and over that isn't in my heart. I am not saying the Lord's prayer is useless, because I have learned a lot from it.

Answer 3

I don't know why it's a big deal to say the Lord's Prayer verbatim. If you pray earnestly, does it matter that you are not saying it in your own words? Repetitous prayer doesn't automatically make it worthless.

Perhaps one can use the Lord's Prayer as a mantra for meditation, or maybe they don't have better words themselves. Formal prayer is beautiful, nothing wrong with it, everything right with it.

And what better words to use than Jesus' own words?

Answer 4

The Lord's prayer is just that, not a command to just do that particular prayer and nothing else. The Apostles wanted to know how to pray and Jesus simply gave them an example to use, not a command that it was the words they had to use. If you look at it carefully, you will find it speaks of honor to God first, "hallowed by Thy name," then comitting to putting God's kingdom first and wanting things done IN Earth to be the same as in Heaven so we are praying for perfection of character. Then we ask for our daily bread, the bread of life, not just food, then comed forgiveness for our sin as we have forgiven others that sin against us. Then we ask that we overcome all temptation and deliverance from the evil one and acknowledge His Kinddom will be forever and has all power. Jesus did teach us to pray but He did not say we should say only that prayer but nothing else but was merely showing how we should pray and make up our prayers. If you have a friend, would you only say one scripted quote to him/her or would you want to talk with them as a friend normally would? Jesus is not different. He likes us to ask things and talk to Him as a friend, not just quote some words over and over.

Answer 5

Actually, He says, "after this manner pray ye" Do you know what that means? That means pray like this. He was just giving a model. A template. Not a recitation. I'd rather pray meaningful prayers of what Jesus meant that babble on and on, not knowing why I was doing it

Answer 6

As Randy says, it's a template. If you go through the parts of the prayer, Jesus first gives repsect to God.
Then, Jesus teaches us to remember that we rely on God for everything, even our daily food.
Jesus then goes on to teach us that, as God has forgiven us, we need to forgive others whom do us wrong.
We're also to reach out to God when we feel ourselves falling into temptation.
Then finally, to realize that what happens in our lives is God's will, not ours, and to pray for God's will on Earth.

I know it's not in the exact order of the prayer, but a bible with a concordance would help alot of readers.

Answer 7

We do pray the Lord's prayer and the prayer is a model on how we should pray. Jesus teach us how should we pray correctly.

Answer 8

The Lord's pray isn't a prayer to always be repeating but a model as to HOW we should pray.

Answer 9

Protestants use the Lord's Prayer, you must be thinking of Muslims. By the way who do you represent?

Answer 10

Ah, yes. Protestants recognize the Lord's Prayer, and often repeat it. You must be thinking of something else.