I wonder what Gog and Magog are up to nowadays?

Question

Any thoughts on identity of these entities?

Linda, your verbose answer was not appreciated...

Answer 1

Prophetically, Gog will be the leader of a great army that attacks the land of Israel in the end times. Gog is described as "the prince of Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal," from the north "the land of Magog" (Ezekiel 38:2-3). The prophet Ezekiel prophetically describes Gog attacking Israel with a powerful force (Ezekiel chapters 38-39). According to this prophesy of Ezekiel, Gog will be defeated by God Himself on the mountains of Israel. The slaughter will be so great it will take seven months to bury all of the dead (Ezekiel 39:12). The Book of Revelation also mentions Gog and Magog (Revelation 20:7-8). The prophesy in Revelation is essentially a restatement of Ezekiel's prophesy.



Magog was a grandson of Noah (Genesis 10:2). The descendants of Magog settled to the far north of Israel, likely in Europe and northern Asia (Ezekiel 38:2). Magog seems to be used to refer to "northern barbarians" in general, but likely also has a connection to Magog the person. The people of Magog are described as skilled warriors (Ezekiel 38:15; 39:3-9). The Book of Revelation uses Ezekiel's prophesy about Magog to portray a final end times attack on the nation of Israel (Revelation 20:8-9). Many Bible prophesy teachers identify Gog and Magog as Russia and/or China. This is possible, but not explicitly clear in the Bible.

Answer 2

Gog and Magog are countries. Do a little history and geography research to find out where they are.

Answer 3

In Ezekiel's day invaders of Isreal, in Revelation "personifications of Satan's forces" encyclopedia
Ezekial notes in margin of my Bible --Gog is symbolic name standing for the leader of world power antagonistic to God...

Answer 4

in arabic jooj and majooj. every night they dig holes to try to escape from under ground. one of the signs of the last days is when they are released among man kind. when they reach close to the earths surface they stop and wait till morning. when they return allah covers up all the work that they have already done. one night they are going to dig and when they finally finish one is going to say we will continue tomorrow INSHALLAH. this will be it. the next morning they are going to be able to finish and come to earths surface. they will destroy much of the food for the humans, drink water and reek havock. laugh now but we believe this is true.

Answer 5

They are probably bitchin about God and how he usurped them...maybe they planning a comeback..pull out all the stops event to you know...kick butt!
Oh Magog! are they really places...who knew?

Answer 6

Just look at the way the world is today; all the chaos, fighting, killing, raping, crime and whatever else going on in the world today and you will see their handiwork.

Answer 7

resting on the ingleside mantelpeice.or perhaps the mantelpeice of the blythe children.

Answer 8

Magog in Genesis
The first occurrence of "Magog" in the Bible is in the "Table of Nations" in Genesis 10, where Magog is the eponymous ancestor of a people or nation (without any accompanying apocalyptic symbolism, or mention of Gog, although, as mentioned above, "Magog" may mean "the land of Gog"):

2. The sons of Japheth were Gomer, Magog, Madai, Javan, Tubal, Meshech, and Tiras
3. The sons of Gomer were Ashkenaz, Riphath, and Togarmah.
(Genesis 10:2-3)
In this occurrence Magog is clearly the name of a person, although in the anthropology proposed by Genesis, ethnic groups and nations are founded by, and usually named after, their founding ancestors. The names of Gomer, Tubal, Meshech, and Togarmah also occur in Ezekiel.

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Gog and Magog in Ezekiel
The earliest known reference to "Gog" and "Magog" together is also in the Bible:

2."Son of man, set your face toward Gog, [toward] the land of Magog, the prince, the head of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy concerning him.
3. And you shall say; So said the Lord God: Behold, I am against you, Gog, the prince, the head of Meshech and Tubal.

(Ezekiel 38:2-3 Judaica Press)
Chapter 38 continues addressing Gog:

10. Thus says the Lord "On that day it shall come to pass that thoughts will arise in your mind and you will make an evil plan:
11. "You will say, "I will go against a land of unwalled villages; ...""
12. "To take plunder and booty..."
(Ezekiel 38:10-12)
Here it is not clear (in the Hebrew) whether Gog or Magog are people or places, and different identifications have been made. These are discussed after the text itself. The Interlinear Bible (Hebrew - Greek - English) states 2. as: "Son of man, set your face toward Gog, the land of Magog, the prince of Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal; and prophesy concerning him." (Jay P. green, Sr., 1986)

Ezekiel (38 and 39) says that Gog will be defeated. Addressing Gog and Magog, God describes how the attacks will be repelled (Ezekiel 39:1-16). The army of Gog and Magog primarily includes people from the nations of Gog, Gomer, Tubal, Meshech, and the house of Togarmah from the North, the latter of which are mentioned as descendants of Japheth in Genesis (q.v.).

They will be joined by Persians from the East, Phut from the West, Kushites from the South, and others. We are told that Gog dwelt north of Israel, but there is little else to identify Gog in the passage. Gog and his allies are to attack "a land of unwalled villages" to collect booty, but before attacking Israel itself will be reduced to a "sixth" of their size (Ezekiel 39:3). Their reduced army will be destroyed in Israel, their dead buried in the Valley of Hamon-Gog for all to see and comment on (39:15-17).

God describes the aftermath of the battle later in the same chapter, addressing "thou, son of Man":

17. ...,thus says the Lord, "Speak to every bird and every beast of the field, "Assemble yourselves and come,...""
18. " You shall eat the flesh of the mighty, drink the blood of the princes of the earth, of rams and lambs, of goats and bulls, all them fatlings of Bashan"
(Ezekiel 39:17-18 KJV)
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Gog and Magog in the Book of Revelation
Gog and Magog are mentioned again in Revelation 20:7-8:

7. And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
8. And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. (KJV)
Here, Gog and Magog are identified as the nations in the four corners of the earth, and their attack is represented as an eschatological crisis after the Millennium, to be vanquished by divine intervention. The language of Gog and Magog's destruction is very similar to that of their mention in Ezekiel.

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Identifications
Ezekiel's identification of Gog and Magog is confusing. Verse 38:2 could identify Gog or Magog as a person, the other as a land. The Greek version of that verse identifies Gog as a land, Magog as a person. In both versions, however, verse 38:3 unambiguously identifies Gog as a person, the prince of Meshech and Tubal. The King James translation is given above; it follows the interpretation of verse 38:3.

In terms of extra-biblical Jewish tradition, Gog the 'prince' has been explained being one of the 70 national angels — of whom all except one, Michael (the guardian angel of Israel), are fallen angels. According to this interpretation, Gog is the angel of a nation called Magog (literally meaning "of Gog" or "from Gog"). Gog in this view represents an apocalyptic coalition of nations arrayed against Israel. Some Biblical scholars believe that Gyges (Greek Γυγες), king of Lydia (687 BC-652 BC), is meant; in Assyrian letters, Gyges appears as Gu-gu; in which case Magog might be his territory in Anatolia. Josephus identifies Magog with the Scythians, but this name seems to have been used generically in antiquity for a number of peoples north of the Black Sea.

According to a tradition of dispensationalist Biblical hermeneutics, Gog and Magog are supposed to represent Russia. The Scofield Reference Bible's notes to Ezekiel claim that "Meshech" is a Hebrew form of Moscow, and that "Tubal" represents the Siberian capital Tobolsk. This identification of Gog with Russia, and Cold War tensions with the West and with Israel, led Hal Lindsey to claim that the former Soviet Union would play a major role in end times prophecies. Since the collapse of the Soviet Union and the retreat of Russia from the role of a military superpower, a few modern end times prophets have attempted to recast Iraq or some other country in the role of Gog.

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Beyond the Biblical tradition
Beyond the Biblical tradition, Gog is portrayed as "the country at the four corners of the world". This is commonly identified as Central Eurasia. Legends present in countries throughout Eastern Europe and the Middle East mention that massive copper, iron, or brass gates were built on its southern borders with the Persian Empire. This would support the identification of these "four corners of the world" with Central Eurasia, the westernmost of these gates, according to some variants of the legend, having been built at Derbent. In the Alexander Romance and elsewhere, these gates are called the "Gates of Alexander" or "Alexander's Wall", after their supposed builder Alexander the Great.

In the 7th century Apocalypse of Pseudo-Methodius it is the messianic Last Roman Emperor who fights and destroys Gog and Magog with divine aid. In his history The Origin and Deeds of the Goths from 551, the Goth writer Jordanes identified Gog with the Goths [1]. The 11th century historian Adam of Bremen considered Ezekiel's prophecy to have been fulfilled on the Swedes.[1]

Some legends of Hungarians and certain Celtic peoples say they are descendants of Magog. Poseidonius, for example, mentions that the Cimmerians, considered to be the original ancestors in Celtic traditions, were derived from gug and guas. In Irish tradition, Magog was supposed to have had a grandchild called Heber, who spread throughout the Mediterranean. The Greeks called such people Iberes mentioning that they were refugees from Atlantis who had come to settle the Caucasus. The result is that Gog — the land of the four corners of the world — has also been identified as lands somewhere in the oceans surrounding the Old World, i.e., the New World.

The Kalki Purana, one of the minor puranas in Hinduism, mention a similar Kok and Bikok who will fight against Kalki. Modern scholarship dates the puranas to the latter half of the first millennium AD.

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Gog and Magog in Islam

A painting by Qasim, 16th century, illustrating the building of the wallIn the Qur'an, in Surat al-Kahf (83-98), it is written that Dhul-Qarnayn (the one with two horns) — who due ambiquity has been conjectured to refer to various historical figures including Cyrus the Great, and Alexander the Great — travelled in three directions, meeting villagers who complained about Yajooj and Majooj in each. First, to where the twin suns rise (to the east); second, to where the twin suns set (to the west); and a third direction, which is not specified in the Qur'an, between two mountain chains where a folk were living on the foothill, and to the north dwelt Yajooj and Majooj (sometimes transliterated from Arabic as Yajuj and Majuj), who continuously attacked the southern people. They are believed to be two tribes of wild and destructive nature.

When Dhul-Qarnayn arrived at the third location, that folk complained about the tribes and offered Dhul-Qarnayn a tribute to build a wall between them so that Yajooj and Majooj would not bother them anymore. Believing his reward would be from God, Dhul-Qarnayn refused the tribute but agreed to build the wall. He constructed the wall out of iron and then poured melted copper over it, making it difficult to climb or dig under. This stopped Yajooj and Majooj from threatening the people for a certain time. There is an opinion that this wall might be in the Caucasus Mountains at Dariel Pass. According to the Islamic scholar, Mufti Ebrahim Desai, they are situated in a land of ice.

The Yajooj and Majooj attempt to break through the iron wall every day, but when night falls and they are near escape, they stop and say to each other "we will finish it tomorrow". The next day when they wake up, they see that all the work they had done had become undone while they slept. This scenario continues every day until the day they say "we will finish tomorrow, in sha allah" (in sha allah meaning by the will of God) before they sleep, and thus when they awaken, they will finish their work and break out.[citation needed]

They are also mentioned in the sayings of the prophet of Islam, Muhammad, as the sign of the nearness of the Doomsday, and that they will destroy the civilizations (The Books of Sahih Al Bukhari and Sahih Al Muslim).

"But when Ya'jooj and Ma'jooj are let loose and they rush headlong down every height (or advantage)" (Quran 21:97)

They will emerge during the reign of Jesus, and will be vast in number [2] drinking up the waters of the Tigris and Euphrates. It is said that Allah (God) divided mankind into ten parts- nine tenths constitute Ya'jooj and Ma'jooj while the remaining tenth constitutes the rest of mankind. Some Muslim Scholars like Abul kalam Azad, Sayed Moududi and Tibri believe that they were Mongols, who were always raiding and destroying the Persian and Indian civilisations, and finally destroyed the Muslim dynasty of Baghdad and Khwarzam (central Asia).

The conquest and the fate of Ya'jooj and Ma'jooj in the Hadith is quite similar to the Martian invaders' conquest and fate in the fictional story of The War of the Worlds. Both armies are unstoppable by the humans, only to be killed by small creatures. It's unknown if H.G. Wells was inspired by the Hadith or such similar stories for the story.

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Khazar Jews
According to Islamic scholar Ibn Kathir, the tribes of Gog and Magog lived in between the Black Sea and the Caspian [3]. Many argue that this is in reference to the Khazars that prospered in that region until the 9th century, where almost all of them converted to Judaism. There are some claims that the descendants of Khazars moved into Poland and Germany and are modern day Ashkenazi Jews. Others say that the Ashkenazim are of the Lost Tribes of Israel.

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Gog and Magog in Marco Polo
In The Travels dictated by Marco Polo, Gog and Magog are regions of Tenduk, a province belonging to Prester John, and governed by one George, fourth in descent from the original John. According to this account Gog (locally Ung) is inhabited by a tribe called the Gog, whilst Magog (or Mongul) is inhabited by Tartars. This may imply that the author had heard of the Tartars of Mongolia and was multiplying their attributes and territories, as well as mixing in the Prester John legend.

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Gog and Magog in England


Given this somewhat frightening Biblical imagery, it is somewhat odd that images of Gog and Magog depicted as giants are carried in a traditional procession in the Lord Mayor's Show by the Lord Mayor of the City of London. According to the Lord Mayor, the giants Gog and Magog are traditional guardians of the City of London, and images of them have been carried in the Lord Mayor's Show since the days of King Henry V. The Lord Mayor's procession takes place each year on the second Saturday of November. Similar images of Gog and Magog, also depicted as giants or monsters, stand over the Royal Arcade in Little Collins Street in Melbourne, Australia.

The Lord Mayor's account of Gog and Magog says that the Roman Emperor Diocletian had thirty-three wicked daughters. He found thirty three husbands for them to curb their wicked ways; they chafed at this, and under the leadership of the eldest sister, Alba, they murdered them. For this crime, they were set adrift at sea; they were washed ashore on a windswept island, which after Alba was called Albion. Here they coupled with demons, and gave birth to a race of giants, among whose descendants were Gog and Magog.

An even older British connection to Gog and Magog appears in Geoffrey of Monmouth's influential 12th century Historia Regum Britanniae, which states that Gogmagog was a giant slain by the eponymous Cornish hero Corin or Corineus. The tale figures in the body of unlikely lore that has Britain settled by the Trojan soldier Brutus and other fleeing heroes from the Trojan War. Corineus is supposed to have slain the giant by throwing him into the sea near Plymouth. Wace, Layamon, and other chroniclers retell the story, which was picked up by later poets and romanciers. John Milton's History of Britain gives this version:

The Island, not yet Britain, but Albion, was in a manner desert and inhospitable, kept only by a remnant of Giants, whose excessive Force and Tyrannie had consumed the rest. Them Brutus destroies, and to his people divides the land, which, with some reference to his own name, he thenceforth calls Britain. To Corineus, Cornwall, as now we call it, fell by lot; the rather by him lik't, for that the hugest Giants in Rocks and Caves were said to lurk still there; which kind of Monsters to deal with was his old exercise.
And heer, with leave bespok'n to recite a grand fable, though dignify'd by our best Poets: While Brutus, on a certain Festival day, solemnly kept on that shore where he first landed (Totnes), was with the People in great jollity and mirth, a crew of these savages, breaking in upon them, began on the sudden another sort of Game than at such a meeting was expected. But at length by many hands overcome, Goemagog, the hugest, in hight twelve cubits, is reserved alive; that with him Corineus, who desired nothing more, might try his strength, whom in a Wrestle the Giant catching aloft, with a terrible hugg broke three of his Ribs: Nevertheless Corineus, enraged, heaving him up by main force, and on his shoulders bearing him to the next high rock, threw him hedlong all shatter'd into the sea, and left his name on the cliff, called ever since Langoemagog, which is to say, the Giant's Leap.
Michael Drayton's Polyolbion preserves the tale as well:

Amongst the ragged Cleeves those monstrous giants sought:
Who (of their dreadful kind) t'appal the Trojans brought
Great Gogmagog, an oake that by the roots could teare;
So mighty were (that time) the men who lived there:
But, for the use of armes he did not understand
(Except some rock or tree, that coming next to land,
He raised out of the earth to execute his rage),
He challenge makes for strength, and offereth there his gage,
Which Corin taketh up, to answer by and by,
Upon this sonne of earth his utmost power to try.
The Gog Magog Hills are about three miles south of Cambridge, said to be the metamorphosis of the giant after being rejected by the nymph Granta (i.e. the River Cam). The dowser T.C. Lethbridge claimed to have discovered a group of three hidden chalk carvings in the Gogmagog Hills. This alleged discovery is described at length in his book Gogmagog: The Buried Gods [4], in which Lethbridge uses his discoveries to extrapolate a primal deity named 'Gog' and his consort, 'Ma-Gog', which he believed represented the Sun and Moon. Although his discovery of the chalk figures in the Gogmagog Hills has been dogged by controversy, there are similarities between the name and nature of the purported 'Gog' and the Irish deity Ogma, or the Gaulish Ogmios.

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Gog and Magog in Ireland
Works of Irish mythology, including the Lebor Gabála Érenn (the Book of Invasions), expand on the Genesis account of Magog as the son of Japheth and make him the ancestor to the Irish. His three sons were Baath, Jobhath, and Fathochta. Magog is regarded as the father of the Irish race, and the progenitor of the Scythians, as well as of numerous other races across Europe and Central Asia.

Partholon, leader of the first group to colonize Ireland after the Deluge, was a descendant of Magog. The Milesians, or people of the 5th invasion of Ireland, were also descendants of Magog.