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Seriously, what gives Christians the unholy right to take a perfectly good holiday like the winter solstice and dedicate it to Christ's Mass?

Oh and which of these two guys are more real? St. Nicholas, or God?

2006-07-16 02:22:58 · 24 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

24 answers

You are a moron.

2006-07-16 02:25:31 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

The Winter Solstice is not December 25. Also, at the exact moment of the Winter Soltstice occurs the Summer Solstice occurs. It simply depends oin what hemisphere you are in (North or South), yet folks in Peru or New Zealand still celebrate Christmas. AAAANNNNDDDD whoever said a solstice was ever a holiday? You are truly an idiot.
By the way Jesus is the King of Kings and one day every knee will bow and every mouth will confess aloud that He is God!!!!

2006-07-16 19:52:37 · answer #2 · answered by TryingToLearn 2 · 0 0

It's ironic that Christians (more accurately their Catholic antecedants) completely swallowed up other religions in order to detract from their significance. On a level is smacks of a politically smart move. Rather than completely attempt to obliterate a holy day, just incorporate it into your own socio-religious mass. The obvious downside of this is the egotism of it. Those of Christian pedigree (by their own self-referential doctrine) deny all of the possibilities that existence offers--free of charge--and claim only the sanctity of themselves and that which they follow, but in doing so they've also ensured that those who follow non-Christian religions do so with a more firmly-established intent. I am not a Christian, but because of constant Christian opposition, I am able to more clearly see the value of what I believe, I am more able to feel the significance of the solstices and the equinoxes and a connection to others (past, present, and future) who feel the same venerable connection. It is because of Christians and the bad (and even some of the good) things that they've done that I am able to see precisely what I am likely to become if I ever stop being honest. Of course, there are noble Christians out there: those who honestly believe in the Christian message, and it is from them that I have learned just how much the universe offers. Their faith (often true and non-belligerent) is just a different flavor of faith, and on those terms I accept it. But for those who call themselves Christian, and are something substantially less, I am at least glad that they exist as an example of what not to become.

As for who is more real? Well, it depends on what you term "real" but I'd have to go with Saint Nicholas. At least as a person, he left bones behind or some kind of remains, whereas God is abstract and cannot be proven or disproven.

2006-07-19 07:12:30 · answer #3 · answered by chipchinka 3 · 0 0

Jesus foretold that apostates, like weeds sown among wheat, would infiltrate the Christian congregation and lead many astray. (Matthew 13:24-30, 36-43; Acts 20:29-31; Jude 4) In time, these so-called Christians adopted pagan festivals, practices, and teachings, even labeling them “Christian.” For example, Christmas has its origin in rites involving the worship of the pagan deities Mithra and Saturn. But what induced professed Christians to adopt these unchristian celebrations? Says The New Encyclopædia Britannica (1974): “Christmas, the festival of the birth of Jesus Christ, was established in connection with a fading of the expectation of Christ’s imminent return.”
“The date of December 25 for the celebration of Christmas is not the result of a strict chronological anniversary but, rather, of the Christianization of the festivals of the winter solstice.” The ancient Romans celebrated the rise of the sun in the winter sky by feasting, revelry, and the exchanging of presents.

Christmas is not for Christians and God is very real----!!!

2006-07-16 02:28:40 · answer #4 · answered by Micah 6 · 0 0

The same right that let them take over Easter and Valentine's day, along with the lands that held the people who celebrated those holidays.

Gotta love the Catholics. Rather than convert the pagans and try to eliminate their blasphemous ways, they just incorporated and renamed them, and then everything was A-OK. Way to be resourceful.

It's kind of funny to see the looks on people's faces when you tell them that Easter was originally the Spring Fertility Festival for the Druids, and that huge orgies were held in its honor. Oh, and that's where the egg comes from.....symbol of rebirth and whatnot. Folks don't know whether to believe you or not.

Oh, and Nicholas was based on a real guy, as opposed to the other, who was based on a composite of every single person on Earth.

2006-07-16 02:30:05 · answer #5 · answered by salihe66 3 · 0 0

Christmas was made up by some stupid German. God didn't ask to be celebrated on a specific date. Nobody knows when Jesus was born. The Bible doesn't tell us that. We should celebrate Him all year round, but since Christmas does exist, we should only think of it as one of the days (holidays) to remember Him. Christmas shouldn't be about gifts and material things. It should be about God and family. He is our Creator and the reason we are here is found in the book of John. John 3:16 to be exact. GOD IS VERY REAL! You will find that out on Judgment Day or sooner if you actually sit down to read His Word. St Nicholas was made up by some idiot with a weird concept of Christmas. Let's teach our kids about God on Christmas, not some fat guy in a red suit who isn't even real.

2006-07-16 02:42:18 · answer #6 · answered by curious_boricua_soul 5 · 0 0

I feel bad for you, you do not understand Jesus at all, in my opinion. The practice of exchanging gifts was a representation of the wisemen bringing gifts to the baby Jesus. It is thought that Jesus was born around that time and therefore his birth was used as a time of exchanging the gifts. However like many good intended things, Christmas became very commercialized and the big business man profits from something that was meant to be totally different.
I am now struggling to make my children understand the true meaning of Christmas, I am starting to make some really good headway. I have chosen to not buy before Dec.25 th and help paganize the birth of christ. Instead we wait until afterwards , because we so desire to give gifts to our children and buy them a couple of things. We spend the actual Christmas Day learning of Jesus and being thankful for all He has done for us.
I also do not allow my children to go trick or treating. I brought them out of that by making them wear sweet costumes , nothing ugly or violent and then they had to say treats please. Once they understood why we were not to celebrate all hallows eve, by these methods, we stopped altogether. I buy them a little candy and they are safe and happy. After all I have only ONE God to bow my knee to and that is not any pagan of halloween.
As for St Nicholas, my understanding of this kind gentleman was his desire to give gifts to poor children and did so for as many as he could in one evening. Does this make him a bad person, I hope not. To show compassion on children is one of Jesus' commands, especially in the sermon on the mount, where he fed the multitude with 5 loaves and three fishes. Jesus says " It would be better that you have a millstone hung around your neck and cast into the ocean , than to hurt even the youngest of these children." He also told the adults do not keep the children from me, for unless you are born again and become like a child you cannot enter the kingdom of heaven.
God of course gives us our strength and salvation and is far more important than St. Nicholas but both are and were real.

2006-07-16 02:55:25 · answer #7 · answered by wolfy1 4 · 0 0

Never in my life have I said"goo goo gaa gaa" to a baby. And the point is that you CAN says whatever you want because they don't understand you anyway. They like repetition and they like silly voices. Apparently, you are not around babies much!

2016-03-27 07:21:49 · answer #8 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

its true that the pagan ritual of solstice was replaced as a celebration for Jesus, But its not the time of the celebration, its the event itse;lf that Holds such importance to us. Why?

The Bible says there will be a day of Judgement, ever thought word and deed wil be brought to light when you stand before God.
The BIble also says that the Ten Commandment's (God's law )will be his perfect standard of Judging. Lets look at a few Commandments to see how you will do. Have you ever lied? Have you ever stolen something? ever looked withg lust? ever used Gods Name in vain? If you have said yes to these questions your guilty of breaking four of the Ten Commandments and the BIble says if you stand before God and he Judges you according to your sin, you could end up in Hell forever. The great news is that Jesus christ was born of a virging, lived here on earth a perfect life and most importantly he suffered and died to take the punishment for your sins. If you will repent (turn from sin) and put your faith and trust in Jesus, God will grant you everlasting life.

2006-07-16 02:41:37 · answer #9 · answered by WDJD 3 · 0 0

The choice was to try to convince more Pagans to join Christianity:

"Oh, you celebrate a holiday on the Winter Solstice? What do you know? One of the key figures of our religion was BORN on the Winter Solstice!!"

Along with the importance of the Virgin Mary (for those pagans who believed in goddesses and placed emphasis on female power) and the whole inclusion of bunnies & eggs in Easter traditions (spring fertility references).

2006-07-16 02:27:46 · answer #10 · answered by musikurt 4 · 0 0

The Roman Catholics chose the Winter Solstice day in order to compete or detract as pagans worshiped their gods on that day.

As to whom is more real, I detect sarcasm, but I will answer anyway. God is real. The heavens declare him - a cursory glance into what is above us speaks of His glory in creating it. Also, our conscience speaks of Him. Why do we feel guilty when we do bad? It is inherent within us, that is why. Third, the testimony of thousands declare Christ as does the historical evidence (and archaeological).

2006-07-16 02:31:36 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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