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Do these titles as used in Matthew 28:19? Mean there are three seperate and distinct persons in the Godhead?

2006-07-15 17:31:02 · 16 answers · asked by Wayne S 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

No, they refer to three offices, roles or relationship
to humanity.

2006-07-15 17:36:59 · update #1

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They are the three characters of God and how he relates to his creation.

2006-07-15 17:39:41 · answer #1 · answered by BP 4 · 0 2

I found a good article that explains the Holy Trinity:

"The Trinity is the term employed to signify the central doctrine of the Christian religion -- the truth that in the unity of the Godhead there are Three Persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, these Three Persons being truly distinct one from another. Thus, in the words of the Athanasian Creed: "the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God, and yet there are not three Gods but one God." In this Trinity of Persons the Son is begotten of the Father by an eternal generation, and the Holy Spirit proceeds by an eternal procession from the Father and the Son. Yet, notwithstanding this difference as to origin, the Persons are co-eternal and co-equal: all alike are uncreated and omnipotent. This, the Church teaches, is the revelation regarding God's nature which Jesus Christ, the Son of God, came upon earth to deliver to the world: and which she proposes to man as the foundation of her whole dogmatic system."

It goes into great detail, the webpage is below.

2006-07-16 00:53:43 · answer #2 · answered by bri 3 · 0 0

Matthew 28:19 is indeed a clear picture of the Trinity. And yes, the Trinity speaks of Person-hood in each member. The Bible uses personal pronouns to refer to each. The Scriptures clearly teach that they are individual persons, not one person in separate offices.

The Father: "Don't be like them, because your Father knows what you need before you ask HIM." (Matthew 6:8)

The Son: "The Word became flesh and tabernacled among us. We gazed on HIS glory, the kind of glory that belongs to the Father's unique Son, full of grace and truth." (John 1:14)

The Holy Spirit: "When the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of Truth who comes from the Father, HE will testify on my behalf." (John 15:26)

Tertullian, one of the early church fathers, coined the term "Trinity." The word actually means "three-ness." Tertullian was an ardent supporter of orthodoxy in the church, and was one of the greatest defenders of the historic Christian faith.

The term "Trinity" is not found in the Scriptures, but the doctrine is clearly displayed. There are many times where Jesus said of Himself that He was God. He applied the name of God, "I AM," to Himself in several passages (this is only evident in the Greek, not the English). Here are a few examples: Matthew 14:27, Mark 6:50, Mark 13:6, Luke 21:8, John 4:26, John 6:20, John 8:24, 28, 58, and John 13:19. There are several others I have not listed. Besides this, Jesus said that He & the Father were one (John 10:30). This describes a unity, even though there are two.

The Trinity has an underlying appearance in the Old Testament as well. In Genesis, we see during creation that God said, "Let us make man in our image." and also when man sinned, God said, "...man has become as one of us, to know good and evil..." Who was He speaking to? The other persons of the Trinity. We also see that the Spirit of God hovered over the waters in the beginning, and in John 1:1-3, it clearly states that Jesus (the Word) made everything.

Another angle to pursue is the various Scriptures that demonstrate that God's attributes are present in Jesus as well as the Holy Spirit. For example, the Father is eternal (Psalm 90:2), and so is the Son (John 1:2), and so is the Holy Spirit (Hebrews 9:14). Another shared attribute is their holiness. Only God is truly holy. The Father is holy (Revelation 15:4), so is the Son (Acts 3:14), and so is the Spirit (Acts 1:8).

An ancient diagram of the Trinity can be helpful in getting your hands around the doctrine, and can be found at the link in the SOURCE list.

2006-07-16 01:13:45 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

THE TRINITY CONCEPT IS DECEPTION AND GOD AND JESUS IS ONE ONLY IN THE WAY THEY THINK, THE PLAN FOR MANKIND. IT IS GOD THE FATHER AND JESUS THE SON. GOD IS A FAMILY AND IS REPRODUCING HISSELF WITH THOSE WHO KEEP HIS LAWS.
It may first be noted that the words “in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one” (KJ) found in older translations at 1 John 5:7 are actually spurious additions to the original text. A footnote in The Jerusalem Bible, a Catholic translation, says that these words are “not in any of the early Greek MSS [manuscripts], or any of the early translations, or in the best MSS of the Vulg[ate] itself.” A Textual Commentary on the Greek New Testament, by Bruce Metzger (1975, pp. 716-718), traces in detail the history of the spurious passage. It states that the passage is first found in a treatise entitled Liber Apologeticus, of the fourth century, and that it appears in Old Latin and Vulgate manuscripts of the Scriptures, beginning in the sixth century. Modern translations as a whole, both Catholic and Protestant, do not include them in the main body of the text, because of recognizing their spurious nature.—RS, NE, NAB.

Other evidence of its impersonal nature. Further evidence against the idea of personality as regards the holy spirit is the way it is used in association with other impersonal things, such as water and fire (Mt 3:11; Mr 1:8); and Christians are spoken of as being baptized “in holy spirit.” (Ac 1:5; 11:16) Persons are urged to become “filled with spirit” instead of with wine. (Eph 5:18) So, too, persons are spoken of as being ‘filled’ with it along with such qualities as wisdom and faith (Ac 6:3, 5; 11:24) or joy (Ac 13:52); and holy spirit is inserted, or sandwiched in, with a number of such qualities at 2 Corinthians 6:6. It is most unlikely that such expressions would be made if the holy spirit were a divine person. As to the spirit’s ‘bearing witness’ (Ac 5:32; 20:23), it may be noted that the same thing is said of the water and the blood at 1 John 5:6-8. While some texts refer to the spirit as ‘witnessing,’ ‘speaking,’ or ‘saying’ things, other texts make clear that it spoke through persons, having no personal voice of its own. (Compare Heb 3:7; 10:15-17; Ps 95:7; Jer 31:33, 34; Ac 19:2-6; 21:4; 28:25.)

2006-07-16 00:35:30 · answer #4 · answered by His eyes are like flames 6 · 0 0

Yes three different people. Jesus prayed to the Father. In Acts 7:55 it states (This is Stephen one of the Apostles talking) -"But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up steadfastly into heaven, and saw the Glory of god and Jesus standing on the right hand of God". He was not on the right hand of himself. The Holy Ghost is a personage of spirit not possessing a body of flesh and bones. When a person speaks by the power of the Holy Ghost that same power carries a conviction of the truth into the heart of the hearer. The Holy ghost knows all things and can lead one to know the truth. When the bible says they are one it means they have to same goal and desire, the same belief.

2006-07-16 00:56:02 · answer #5 · answered by # one 6 · 0 0

Yes, Jesus, God and the Holy Spirit are the 3 distinct *persons* of the Trinity (Jesus was the only *human*)

I think this is the best illustration for the Trinity: "Space" (not outer space, but space in general) is made up of height, width, and depth; 3 distinct properties, yet together they make up what is known as "space."

There have also been attempts to describe the Trinity as water being manifested in liquid, solid, and vapor, but the problem with that is water can only be manifested in one form at a time.

Obviously, because the Holy Spirit descended upon Jesus, and God spoke saying, "this is My Son in whom I am well pleased," God can be in all places in all forms at all times (omnicient, omnipresent, omnipotent).

Did you know that even post-Christ Jews believed in a form of the Trinity?

2006-07-16 00:49:56 · answer #6 · answered by Kristina 3 · 0 0

No, not persons. Jesus was/is the only "person", as he came in the flesh, who was in the beginning with the father (YHWH), who is spirit. The holy spirit is an aspect/part of the father that does the "work".

All parts of the "godhead".

2006-07-16 00:47:16 · answer #7 · answered by joe916 3 · 0 0

28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

This can be interpreted in different ways, but I think it does not necessarily imply they are one in the same. Further study would need to be conducted to fully understand it.

Best wishes.

2006-07-16 00:37:43 · answer #8 · answered by K M 3 · 0 0

Yes, there is the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. Three in one.

2006-07-16 00:36:37 · answer #9 · answered by kl1779 2 · 0 0

the Father the Son and the Holy ghost are one Jesus says I and my Father are one then he tells the disciples i must leave expediantly so the comforter can come the comforter is the Holy Ghost

2006-07-16 00:37:14 · answer #10 · answered by stormyblythe 3 · 0 0

Yup.

If this doesn't teach the doctrine of the trinity outright, it certainly implies it, and further study of the Bible makes it even clearer.

2006-07-16 00:33:36 · answer #11 · answered by Dave 2 · 0 0

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