Insult to Jesus in Bible??

Question

Christians are ignorant of the New Testament’s portrayal of Jesus; and they are ignorant of the documents hidden by the Church, namely the Gospel of Philip which records the love affair between Jesus and Mary Magdalene. The book of Revelation is probably the most degrading book; it contains a passage that describes Jesus having woman breasts!

And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks; And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps (mastos) with a golden girdle. (Revelations 1:13)

Let us analyze the passage closely; Jesus is described as having “paps” with a golden girdle. But what are paps? According to the Oxford Dictionary, it basically means the “breasts”. There is evidence to show that “paps” exclusively refers to woman breasts.



Here is the lexicon for “paps”



Strong’s Number: 3149



Transliterated Word:



Mastos



Phonetic



mas-tos'



Definition:

the breasts
the breasts (nipples) of a man
breasts of a women

The word “paps” could refer to both male and female breasts, but the New Testament applies the Greek word “mastos” to woman only!



And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps (mastos) which thou hast sucked. (Luke 11:27)



For, behold, the days are coming, in the which they shall say, Blessed are the barren, and the wombs that never bare, and the paps (mastos) which never gave suck. (Luke 23:29)



Since the New Testament never applies the word “paps” to males, the verse Revelation 1:13 does speak of Jesus having female breasts! Now if the author of Revelation wanted to say Jesus has MALE breasts, he should’ve used the Greek word “stethos”, which simply means “breast”.

And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast (stethos), saying, God be merciful to me a sinner. (Luke 18:13)



Simon Peter therefore beckoned to him, that he should ask who it should be of whom he spake. He then lying on Jesus' breast (stethos) saith unto him, Lord, who is it? (John 13:25)



Then Peter, turning about, seeth the disciple whom Jesus loved following; which also leaned on his breast (stethos) at supper, and said, Lord, which is he that betrayeth thee? (John 21:20)





The difference is that “stethos” defines any breast, but “mastos” only refers to female breasts. The perverted author of Revelations decided to use the word “mastos” and not “stethos”.



The scholar Tom Harper comments on Revelations 1:13

Revelation 1:13, in the King James Version, says, “And I saw in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of Man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle”. “Paps” is the archaic word for a woman’s breasts. In the Greek, the word used is the plural mastos, which the lexicon defines as “the breast, esp., of the swelling breast of a woman”. Rarely, the plural was used to refer to a man’s breasts, but the prevailing sense is female. The fact that the figure in this passage from Revelation wore a “girdle”, or cincture, about the breasts—the modern equivalent would be a brassiere—confirms that the breasts in question are female. Indeed, the New English Bible translates the plural as though it were a singular—“with a golden girdle round his breast”. The New Revised Standard Version tried to avoid any embarrassment by wrongly translating it as “chest”. (The Pagan Christ, p. 211)

It is interesting to note that Revelations also contains a passage that speaks of angels having breasts!



And the seven angels came out of the temple, having the seven plagues, clothed in pure and white linen, and having their breasts (stethos) girded with golden girdles. (Revelations 15:6)

well Jesus was God incarnate full God full man but it seems absurd to me

Satan will be laughing at you people Thanx God i am not one of you

Answer 1

How is having breasts insulting? Shouldn't God be sexless or hermaphroditic?

Answer 2

Why is it an "insult" to portray a male with female breasts? Obviously it is metaphorical or allegorical, comparing, perhaps, the manner in which Jesus spiritually feeds his followers to a mother suckling a child. And that could be an interesting interpretation, because the breasts are bound up in a "golden girdle." Could it mean that by the time that book was written, the followers of Jesus had aleady become so wrapped up in the trappings of religion, such as gold crosses, chalices, etc., that (in the author's opinion) such things had become an impediment to forming a direct spiritual connection to the living, resurrected Jesus? I don't know -- I have no idea -- but that's the sort of thing I think the author would have meant to express by writing that particular passage.

The author's immediate audience most likely understood it quite clearly, unlike those of us a couple thousand years after who just read it and scratch or heads. For us it's more like an ink blot test: what we see in it says more about us than it does about Jesus, or God, or the person that wrote it. If you find it insulting, you should examine your own hang-ups and prejudices, rather than imputing bad motives to the author.

Answer 3

Sometimes I wonder if it even worth an argument, as there are quite a few things in the bible that don't work. I think one has to develop an ability to determine if what you are reading there is intended to be factual, symbolic or allegorical.
Noahs Ark is an impossibility as it is written but is rich in allegory. That is also true for the story of Jonah and walking on water and many other such things.
As far as the Gospel of Phillip, there are also other sources that recount similar activities of Jesus and Mary. The early church that evolved out of Rome demonstrated an unnatural aversion to the inclusion of women in their confines. This carried on for several centuries, and unfortunatley led to the horrible deaths of millions of women during the inquisition. I think that this may be part of the reason that ties between Jesus and Magdalene were redacted by the compilers of the bible. Thankfully, as some saw the light in later years, some sects began to include women. Unfortunatley not for Catholics.
The Bible is "a" book and not "the" book.

Answer 4

yeah, but who says that CHRIST is a man or a woman? although the masculine form is used in the bible, that could be a cultural description. Jesus was male, but that does not mean that the spirit of Christ is.

that said, i do not recall the verse you are quoting and i will look it up. but to nullify the entirity of the bible for one quoted (or misquoted) statement is silly.

while the bible as a whole becomes an infallible document, the frailty of the men who translated the books of the bible and even those who wrote the books of the bible, do not invalidate the bible as a whole.

the image of God, refers to the soul, not the body. if it did, we'd all look the same in the mirror.

besides, if a human guy had boobs, he'd never work because he'd sit around an play with them at home, all the time.

-eagle

Answer 5

I know about the Gospels you mention, and they were not put into the Bible for good reasons. Im not ignorant to it, but you must be if you dont know the reasons why they were left out. Instead of telling you why, I'll see if you research it on your own.

Revelations is metaphoric for the end times. The entire thing is written as a mystery to be deciphered, so in knowing that, you would understand it did not mean Jesus had breats, but is metaphoric, when used within context stands for something, is not literal, but figurative.

Your question, although apparantly asked to make us think Christians are ignorant, just goes to show your own shortcomings. Get over it.

Answer 6

its much ado about nothing...it is well known that Jesus was a male...a jew when he walked the earth. Revelations is known to be metaphorical...as is the Bible of Jewish people. Its not literal...as mentioned so eloquently above. Perhaps Jesus was depicted with a maternal light in Revelations to counter the Paternal and "angry god" depictions that some cast upon him. Or perhaps your misinterpreting. In the end this discussion changes little...even if Jesus came back with womanly breasts...what difference does it make?

Much more important is that we learn to treat each other well, "do not unto others as you would not have done unto you"- Rabbi Hillel - Talmudic teachings and "Do unto others as you would have done unto you"- Jesus

I am Jewish and do not believe Jesus was more than a man...nor that he return...almost agnostic on the subject of Jesus as a messiah...I certainly don't believe he was the son of god...nor do I believe the Messiah is the son of god...a messanger..yes...son of god? Why? Counselor, yes...a leader, yes. Not sure about exactly what supernatural qualities other than being with G-d at times creation that the Messiah is supposed to have.

Answer 7

LoL. So your reading the mistranslated KJV. ROFLMAO.

This Bible, KJV. Written by the gayest King the British every had (which means nothing to me) but he removed the Name of God from the bible 6,000 times alone and left it in 4x, yes, 4x out of 6,000. So what else did he add and take away? He replaced God's name many times with words such as Adonai, Lord (for the LONGEST time I thought The Lords Prayer was about Jesus, lol), and many other words to denote God, Yahweh / Jehovah. What an insult to God. He saw his own name fit enough to put in that many times, and King James had to Gall to take it out.

By the way, its not THE BOOK OF REVELATIONS its THE BOOK OF REVELATION (singular - ONE REVELATION). I wish people could get that fact straight.

By the way, THERE IS NO GOSPEL OF PHILLIP. Its SPURIOUS, NOT CHRISTIAN. Sorry again. And although HE LOVED Mary, and she was a special friend to him, he did not sin with her by having intercourse. Nor as far as we know did he marry her and have lawful intercourse.

Answer 8

Ibn Maj’ah narrated that the Messenger of Allah stated: “between the fly’s wings includes poison on a similar time as the different includes antidote. whilst it falls interior the nutrition, dip it, for the sake of Allah, for verily He (Allah) makes the poison (take impression) first and He makes the therapy come final.” i do no longer understand why Ibn Maj'ah is authorized to slander Muhammad so. somewhat those can't be the words of a widespread Prophet who has a great understanding. it somewhat is an insult against Muhammad! Rahena: all of us be conscious of there are not any antidotes interior the wings of flies. Are you attempting to make Muhammad look much greater ignorant? reason that is succeeding.

Answer 9

There is also a Gosple of Mary Magdalene, Gospel of Judas and there are few more that I bought from Amazon that churches would never include because it will prove their current doctrine wrong show the truth that Islam teaches exactly what Jesus said, did and wanted you to do.

Answer 10

LOL!..You have no right to say to christians that they are insulting JESUS when, number one, you're not a christian and know nothing about christianity.....number two, you're not a Spiritual Pastor/Minister Leader who is Anointed by GOD to Lead Anybody, you're just KICKING AROUND SCRIPTURES FROM YOUR CARNAL MIND OF OPINIONS & VIEWS! ( John 3: 34)...... what you GOD & Christian Haters don't realized, is that True Born Again Belivers Know & Understand The Word Of GOD and people like you that are heretics can't stop it!.......why do you atheists GOD Haters hang around a religous/spiritual forum for!...why? ...you do it to Disrespect, Mock, Change The Scriptures Around for Your Own Gratifications, Harass, And Insult Christian Beliefs!......You Prove Your Hatered For Believers In GOD & His Word Everyday!.....Go to an atheists site and spread your HATE....

Answer 11

I don't know, but there are a good 20 references to nursing fathers as well in the bible. I don't think it is an insult no matter what, we never know, with God all things are possible.