Was Adam created eternal or not before he ate the fruit?

Question

IF he was not eternal from the start than if GOD tries to scare him with death is nothing since regardless of time he would be death.
If he did create him eternal first and then took his Eternal life away who says GOD won't cahnge his mind later on when Lovely Christains will be in heaven? And don't tell me GOD never brouke his promiss.
He promissed to abraham that he will have as many childrens of his own as stars in the universe. So far we know Abraham had only 1 son. IF GOD decides to hide the truth he will. IF GOD will decide to reverse heaven and hell he will. He is the GOD and one of us can know true intention of GOD. IS it possible?

Most answers about Abraham goes to interpretation that GOD did not mean literraly his son. Now GOD ment his grand-children and so on. Well Sorry bible does not say so and its onlypersonal interpretation of Ppl who likes to use this excuse here and will ignore the same excuse in other passages. So at least may be we can try to be consistent. IF we want to use that word Son means every descendent that it will create much more problems in the bible that Abraham case.

Answer 1

Adam was able to die from the moment God created him. In the garden, Adam had immortality because he had access to the tree of life and he was forbidden to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil because the consequence was death.

Adam did eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and suffered the consequence that God had warned him of. He now knew too much to remain as he had been and the process of life and death as we now understand it began with the immense knowledge Adam came to know.

While many will see this as a punishment, I believe the Bible indicates this as a consequence. For example, your mother tells you not to touch a hot stove because it will burn you. You touch the hot stove and get burned. That you got burned was not punishment from your mother, but the consequence of touching the stove. Once you are injured, there are certain activities you may not be able to participate in because of your injury. These are further consequences rather than punishment.

I don't see anywhere here that God broke a promise. Perhaps you could provide the specific verses where you feel that He did. I see no promises from God stating that Adam is immortal without the fruit of the tree of life and God warned Adam in advance of the consequences of eating of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

As for the story of Abraham, the Bible does not say he will have children of his own specifically, but that his family would multiply, which it did as you can see from the verses that follow (Genesis 11:17-24). The Bible uses the term seed, saying "I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven". It was believed that men of a family shared the same seed. Even today we know that certain genetic markers are the same within a family. Abraham's family did multiply and continued to multiply for generations.

Answer 2

I think you had better get your facts straight. ALL Jewish people are the Children of Abraham, so to speak. They all want to go to the bosom of Abraham.

As for Adam AND Eve, God intended for them to live forever just as he is doing. But, after Eve ate the fruit, God blamed Adam because Adam was the first made, and was supposed to control what Eve did. When God came to Eden and saw what they had done, eaten from the tree of knowledge after he had forbidden it, he put the curse of death on all mankind. Now, before you go saying God made a mistake about Adam and Eve you have to remember, he gave them freedom of choice, so it was not by God's choice, butby the choice of man did they eat.
Now, back to Abraham. He had two sons, Ismael by a housemaid of Sarah's and Isaac by Sarah when Sarah was ninety years of age. She had Abraham send Ismael and his mother away, because she was jealous of them. Ishmael was a warlike man and Isaac was a man of peace, which is causing all the trouble in the Middle East. The Muslims are following Ishmael and the rest are following Isaac. And someday, maybe not in our time, there is going to be a war there, the like of which the world has never seen and Israel will come out victorious, because God has promised He and his Angels will be with them.

Answer 3

Everything is possible with God. Adam was created as is in the Garden of Eden, we do not know anything about Adam, except his was created in the image of God and then Eve was created and ate the apple and then Adam and Eve both sinned. About Abraham, he did have many children, he might have had one blood son, but, he was impatient and had a son with with his slave and that son was thrown out and Abraham's birth son stayed with good old dad and when God told Abraham that he would have children as many as the stars in the sky, God actually meant Abraham's grandchildren, both from his birth son and the son he had from his outcast son.

Answer 4

God said that Abraham will have decendants as the number of stars. God is not man that He shall lie. Adam and Eve were eternal, until they both ate the fruit. God forwarned them that if Adam were to eat the fruit from that tree he would surely die and once he did he did eventually died. God cannot decide to reverse heaven and hell, God cannot lie, He cannot sin

Answer 5

He has never broken a promise. As far as Abraham goes, look at all the descendants of Issac, his son, in Israel and over the world. As far as Adam goes, he was not created eternal. If you read the book of Genesis, it says that there were two trees- One of Knowledge, and One of Eternal Life.

Answer 6

i have never seen a verse that said that adam was eternal, prior to the fruit incident. it is my belief that the death mentioned would be the separation of God, from adam's life, and the life of eve and their children.

if one could follow the tenants of the Lord and later the laws of moses, then they should find redemption for their deeds.

remember, it was Jesus who offered SALVATION. this is not always the same as REDEMPTION.

with redemption, you could atone for your sins by doing good things, but with salvation, you have to earn it through the following of the teachings of Jesus Christ.

as for God hiding the truth, this is quite impossible, while nothing is impossible for God, not following his word would invalidate his being and therefore would not be done.

remember all the grandchildren that came from abrahams' lineage. these may not literally be more than the stars, but this aliteral paraphrase is put into a context that could be understood at that time.

this came at a time when the concept of milllions and millions and infinite were figures of speech, but no less real, because of the limitation of the populations ability to grasp the concept.

-eagle

Answer 7

long before the commencing up of Earth replace into laid Jesus agreed to be born as a guy to die for the sins of the human beings (a million Peter a million:18-20). This replace into of direction before Adam and Eve disobeyed. So the daddy and Son have been continuously in contract. immediately after Adam and Eve sinned, they have been advised of the arriving Redeemer (Genesis 3:15). So Father and Son had them and everyone else lined. God did no longer punish guy with loss of life. loss of life is the effect of disobedience and the two Adam and Eve knew it (Genesis 2:17, 3:3). there replace right into a promptly non secular loss of life (separation from God) and an eventual actual loss of life. Had God no longer needed guy to stay for all eternity (disagree with Jesus as you place it) He does no longer have made provisions for guy's redemption even before He shaped the earth.

Answer 8

Eternal is the Spirit which God browed on the men which He created.
In each men is that Spirit.
God in the Truth.
I think ,Is speaking about the descendents of the one sun of Abraham .

Answer 9

God did not change his mind about Adam being eternal, he punished him.

On God promise to Abraham, you have to read the Bible, the whole thing to understand it, it is much more complicated than they way you make it seem, and yes, it came to be truth.

Answer 10

He wasn't created eternal...he was created with the possibility of living forever as long as he was obedient to God. As for Abraham, although he only had one son with Sarah, he didn't only have one son. His first son was Ishmael (with Hagar), then came Isaac (with Sarah), after Sarah died he married Keturah and had six more children. From those children came the Israelites, Ishmaelites, Edomites, Medanites, Midianites, and others. In biblical times, grandchildren and later generations were known as "sons" of their ancestors.