Isn't it FUNNY..and IRONIC?

Question

That unbelievers in God always complain about the Christians jamming our "religion" down their throat, but all the time college professors and university professors jam evolution down the students throats? And if the student challenges the idea of evolution, he gets ridiculed and laughed at. Remember the teacher is the one in authority, and if the student answers differently the teacher can fail them...
And people who don't believe in God come to the RELIGION and SPIRITUALITY forum and jam their nonsense down our throat?? Hmmmm, it is funny.

And just to tick off those unbelievers, I will not be reading the answers. I don't want to have your religion jammed down my throat.

Answer 1

A complains about B's actions. B complains about C's actions. How is A responsible for C?

Answer 2

Well, only the conflict-seeking unbelievers complain overly. If it is truly being JAMMED down my throat, then I will voice my opinion. However, evolution isn't jammed down student's throats any more. They aren't telling you to believe in it. They just want you to know the facts about it. If you see that as a bad thing, then I'm sorry for your ignorance.
Being ridiculed for challenging evolution in an intelligent manner shouldn't happen. I'm sorry, but I've read many ridiculous attempts to disprove evolution, and if they are much like that (such as saying that dinosaurs exist today), then of course I'd laugh a little. However, if you make valid points, then they should be considered, rather than ridiculed.
If the student answers differently to a factual question such as: 'how did darwin develop his theory of evolution' and the student says 'evolution doesn't exist' then the teacher has the right to fail the student because the student wasn't learning the facts of evolution, they were merely refusing to accept it as a theory. However, if asked an opinion question, then the student has every right to answer how they would like, as long as they support their ideas.
Many people who do not believe in god won't JAM their beliefs down anyone's throat. They usually just ridicule something, which, while wrong, is not jamming anything at all. I must say, I am guilty of that on occasion. However, many times it is the person who believes in god who initiates the conflict by saying something bad about those who do not believe in god, such as you have here.
It is very sad that you won't be reading the answers, because now you will not be able to read the thorough answer I have just given you.
A final comment. I very much find your generalization of 'unbelievers' offending. Simply because I do not believe in your god, does not mean I don't believe in a deity of my own. Your god is not the only god that people believe in, and it is presumptuous, and yes, it would be JAMMING that belief down our throats to say that anyone who does not believe in your god is a dirty 'unbeliever'.
Good day,
and Goddess bless.

Answer 3

I agree that schools should do a better job of teaching evolution, not preaching it. You brought up a good point there when you said that the teacher is the one in authority, so a student may be failed if he doesn't agree with the teacher.

On the same vein of thought, though, if a religious leader of some kind were in charge of a class or community, would the same thing happen? I think the real key to religious persons and scientific persons coexisting is mutual understanding and respect. That doesn't have to mean that one has to agree with the other, but both parties agreeing to disagree and leaving it at that might open up the opportunity for professors and other people of authority to adopt a more objective view when it comes to either subject.

Interesting question.

Answer 4

Well, at least you admit that you're afraid of differing viewpoints. Even though you won't be checking, I'll answer so people who are actually intelligent can read it:

1. Teachers and professors teach evolution because that is their job, to teach science. Evolution is supported by millions of pieces of evidence that has been accumulated for more than the last century. Recent discoveries of evolution have filled peer-reviewed scientific journals without opposition, because it is accepted by nearly all of the scientific majority. If you oppose the teaching of evolution, then you should also oppose the teaching of gravity.

2. Just because it is a religion and spirituality section does not mean that theists are the only ones allowed to post here. Nowhere on this site does it say, "only post in the religion and spirituality section if you're religious or have a positive opinion of religion." Where on this site does it say that negative opinions of a topic are not allowed?

3. By its very definition, a religion must have a god, or some sort of higher power. It is not possible for disbelief to be considered religion.

Well, thanks for showing your willful ignorance and giving me the opportunity to expose you for the moron that you are.

Answer 5

Unbelievers always say that we jam our religion down their throats, so I reviewed 500 previous answers once, just to see approximately what the ratio was. Out of the 500 posts, 122 were attacks on Christianity; 20 were preaching by Christians. When I posted the results, I got some of the most vicious replies I've ever seen.

Answer 6

What's in the bible can be learned in may be a weeks time for a person who is above say 12 years of age... It will be like reading the Da Vinci code or Harry Potter - what you get about 400 pages am I right?

But when it comes to evolution, There is the master theory from Darwin and then follow up theories from many others scientists and it it on going. New things are found every day... But the Bible doesn't change or nor new things are added daily ya? I mean some do interpret what's in there in a zillion ways.. but the basic stuff doesn't change ya?

Answer 7

IT IS FUNNY AND IRONIC that a Christian refuses to listen to reason. Evolution does not equal Atheism and Atheism does not equal evolution, no matter how much you say it does. People other than atheists believe in evolution (even some Christians-gasp!). And yes, I do hang out in the religion and spirituality forum just to clear up misconceptions about Atheism (and sometimes evolution) and to also learn about what other people think about religion and spirituality.

Did you know that people who don't believe in God can still be spiritual- and doesn't spirituality belong in the RELIGION AND SPIRITUALITY forum? well what do you know, it does! Good luck with the whole being bitter thing.

Answer 8

I see what you mean. In fact, all teaching is basically convincing the students of your beliefs. I mean, even if you are teaching math, or literature, or astrophysics, you are teaching your students the theory that you currently hold and accept. However, as a teacher who works at a university, my attitude is that my students don't have to agree with me as long as they understand me. When I teach about linguistics, for example, I present evidence to the students about why I think that the theories of linguistics that I present in class are correct. If they don't agree with me, that's their prerogative as long as they are able to articulate my reasons for my opinion. And, their grade is also based on their ability to demonstrate that understanding on tests, and so forth. However, science in general wouldn't advance if everybody always believed everything that they had been taught.

I guess what I'm saying is, you might be surprised at how loosely your professors actually hold to their beliefs in the scientific principles they are teaching, because they recognize science and its ideas are always changing.

And, by the way, I don't perceive the same conflict between science and religion that you do; they are both ways of discovering truth. It's just that science is much slower.

Answer 9

What's funny is that one person thinks the bible can be read and understood in a week or so. I don't know which version he has found that is only 500 pages. This is another example of an evolutionist who has never bothered to learn what it is that he/she disagrees with.

Another said that atheist are not necessarily evolutionist. Really, so he does not believe that animals were created nor does he believe that they evolved. Did they just spontaneously appear exactly like they are?

There are plenty of people on both sides of these issues who speak (type) more than they think.

Answer 10

Yeah, it's just that they are so sold on their faith, that they don't know that they are treating it just like a religion. I guess the joke is on them!

But look at all the atheists that hang around here, getting Christianity jammed down their throats! Do you think that they are here because they secretly want what we have? They have to play it tough and pretend to be here to give it a hard time, but inwardly they want to believe sooooo bad!

Answer 11

dude, i know what ur sayin. I agree completely. although are religion differs somewhat i also blieve that that non blievers are punished severely by his holiness. I speak of the great flying spaghetti monster. His greatness has imposed many miracles upon our earth and done many great things even tho we have abandoned pirating ways..its just sad people jam stuff down our throats. You know, like they try to shove 'reasonable' evidence down our throat at birth and get us to blieve in completely fictional fact based beliefs. Just sad... :( ALL HAIL THE FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER!