they closed the borders to heaven after complaints from the locals about the quality of some of the newly arrived aliens.
2006-07-14 14:01:32
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answer #1
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answered by 自由思想家 3
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When you die, I believe based on how you loved/lived this life you go through a spiritual reflection on things done out of love and those things not done out of love so that you learn truth. If you have more things done not out of love, your spirit must learn it's lessons before moving on to new levels. Heaven is just a term. Heaven certainly exists for those that wish to spiritually create it upon death, hell the same. Hell, you say? Why would anyone want to create a hell? Upon life review, if you were a serial murderer or a Hitler type person, you'd probably feel so much guilt and disgust that a place like this away from other souls (away from love) would seem necessary to reconstruct the spirit.
We all have a piece of God within us called the soul. This soul (God) reviews the life just lived. It's not a judgment in Biblical terms so to speak but an evaluation on the life just lived. This is what I believe, anyway, I don't believe an all loving God (father/mother) would subject a part of his creation to eternal damnation. Would you do the same to your children when they fail? I think not. God is love which is understanding, forgiveness and all things positive.
Long story made long.....it happens at the time of our death which is different for everybody (except for if the world would end by some catastrophic means). Yes, there are already people in heaven.
2006-07-14 14:12:10
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answer #2
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answered by Greenwood 5
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Well, in Christianity, it's not totally clear -- at least if you just glance through things. (Someone with more detailed knowledge should provide better references.)
For example, at his crucifixion, Jesus tells the repentant thief next to him, "Surely you will be with me this day in paradise." (Was that a figure of speech or literal?)
In some of the later parts of the NT, it talk about how the bodies shall be raised on the last day (or at the rapture). This could mean the person is "dead" until the group resurrection, or it could mean that the person is "with God" until then and are then reunited with their bodies.
But in the Old Testament, which came first, the Jews never really thought about "heaven" per se, they focused on the current life. When someone died, they entered "Sheol" (which means "the grave"). The body and the soul were not really separate entities as we current-day westerners view it (that separation was a Greek philosophical idea), so physical death was a very real death to them, and they simply believed that somehow they would still rest with God.
(Again, if someone can clarify, please do.)
2006-07-14 14:04:26
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answer #3
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answered by Jennywocky 6
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No! No one is in heaven right now- nor in hell. People who die are unconscious and await the resurrection of the dead. We are NOT immortal! Therefore- we really do die and remain in our graves until Jesus returns for us. According to Jesus, no one can go to heaven at this time:
Joh 13:33 Little children, I am with you yet a little while. You shall seek Me; and as I said to the Jews, Where I go, YOU CANNOT COME, so I now say to you.
Joh 14:2 In My Father's house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
Joh 14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I WILL COME AGAIN and receive you to Myself, so that where I am, you may be also.
So as you can see- the only way we are getting to heaven is when Jesus comes for us. That is the only way we can get there.
So the dead are dead! God ALONE is immortal:
Ti 6:15 ... He who is the blessed and only Sovereign, the King of kings and Lord of lords,
1Ti 6:16 WHO ALONE has immortality....
So as you can see no one can go to heaven at this time and no one has ever gone to heaven yet!
Joh 3:13 And NO ONE has ascended up to Heaven except He who came down from Heaven, the Son of Man who is in Heaven.
Joh 1:18 No one has seen God at any time; the Only-begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him.
There are those that will claim we have an immortal soul- but as you have seen, only God is immortal! We as souls do die! Remember, the wages of sin is death:
Eze 18:4 Behold, all souls are Mine. As the soul of the father, also the soul of the son, they are Mine. The soul that sins, IT SHALL DIE.
Hope this helps.
2006-07-14 14:39:03
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answer #4
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answered by Anonymous
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How about this idea: people are already there, but at the same time, we all arrive together. It's a paradox -- the people who have passed away, are already in heaven, living happy lives with the people who have yet to pass away. I think the linear progession of time is a meaningless, earthly construct to heaven.
When you pass away, you will arrive at the saime time as your grandparents. Meanwhile, your grandparents are already there, spending time with the future-dead you.
But then, it means the past dead are not looking down and watching over us, because they're already with us up there....
2006-07-14 14:01:38
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answered by agentdenim 3
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1 Corinthians 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
The dead will rise first and then those that are still alive will be caught up to meet CHRIST.
2006-07-14 14:00:53
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answer #6
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answered by Exodus 20:1-17 6
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My dad, as much as I love him, was anything but perfect. Far from it. And today, 17 months after his death, I feel assured he's in Heaven with God. And his mother's there too. And I'd bet there's a lot of others there too. Maybe at "the end of time" there'll be some stragglers brought in, but if my dad is there, as I believe he is, a lot of folk already are. I sure loved the "old man", but he wasn't always "old", and he was anything but meek and mild, or perfect. My God is a forgiving God. Thank God. God Bless you.
2006-07-14 14:01:36
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answer #7
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answered by ? 7
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Jesus Christ spoke about the condition of the dead. He did so with regard to Lazarus, a man whom he knew well and who had died. Jesus told his disciples: “Lazarus our friend has gone to rest.” The disciples thought that Jesus meant that Lazarus was resting in sleep, recovering from an illness. They were wrong. Jesus explained: “Lazarus has died.” (John 11:11-14) Notice that Jesus compared death to rest and sleep. Lazarus was neither in heaven nor in a burning hell. He was not meeting angels or ancestors. Lazarus was not being reborn as another human. He was at rest in death, as though in a deep sleep without dreams. Other scriptures also compare death to sleep. For example, when the disciple Stephen was stoned to death, the Bible says that he “fell asleep.” (Acts 7:60) Similarly, the apostle Paul wrote about some in his day who had “fallen asleep” in death.—1 Corinthians 15:6.
The Bible teaches that the dead “are conscious of nothing at all.” They are not alive and have no conscious existence anywhere. The account of Lazarus confirms this. Upon returning to life, did Lazarus thrill people with descriptions of heaven? Or did he terrify them with horrible tales about a burning hell? No. The Bible contains no such words from Lazarus. During the four days that he was dead, he had been “conscious of nothing at all.” (Ecclesiastes 9:5) Lazarus had simply been sleeping in death.—John 11:11.
The account of Lazarus also teaches us that the resurrection is a reality, not a mere myth. Jesus raised Lazarus in front of a crowd of eyewitnesses. Even the religious leaders, who hated Jesus, did not deny this miracle.
Think about this too: If Lazarus had been in heaven for those four days, would he not have said something about it?— And if he had been in heaven, would Jesus have made him come back to earth from that wonderful place?— Of course not!
Yet, many people say that we have a soul, and they say that the soul lives on after the body dies. They say that Lazarus’ soul was alive somewhere. But the Bible does not say that. It says that God made the first man Adam “a living soul.” Gen. 2:7, Adam was a soul. The Bible also says that when Adam sinned, he died. He became a “dead soul,” and he returned to the dust from which he had been made. The Bible also says that all Adam’s offspring inherited sin and death too.
The Scriptural teaching of the resurrection, however, is not compatible with the doctrine of the immortality of the soul. If an immortal soul survived death, no one would need to be resurrected, or brought back to life. Indeed, Martha expressed no thought about an immortal soul that was living on elsewhere after death. She did not believe that Lazarus had already gone to some spirit realm to continue his existence. On the contrary, she showed her faith in God’s purpose to reverse the effects of death. She said: “I know he will rise in the resurrection on the last day.” (John 11:23, 24) Likewise, Lazarus himself related no experiences of some afterlife. There was nothing to report.
Clearly, according to the Bible, the soul dies and the remedy for death is the resurrection. You enjoy the best sleep ever, until Jesus resurrects you, sometime in the future.
2006-07-14 18:12:50
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answered by BJ 7
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Everyone goes at once cuz Heaven won't exist until the end times.
2006-07-14 13:57:38
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answered by Meg 3
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No ones in Heaven yet you go to a waiting place and wait to be judged on judgement day.
2006-07-14 14:02:40
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answered by sarah k 3
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