Why do people argue over something as personal as faith?

Question

Faith means belief... How can you argue, right or wrong with what another man decides is valuable to his walk. You can tell people what you believe an you can tell them why you don't believe in what they do but what is up with all this right and wrong? Faith is never right or wrong and doesn't need a logical reason to be valuable.

The fact of the matter is... Unless you can bring someone back from the dead to ask them what happens after death, then neither side has any proof if a man has a soul or not or if there is or isin't a God.

Jesus said "I have given all men an equal measure of faith." and He said that it is impossible to know Him without it.

Atheisim is a kind of faith, it is a religion in that it is an anti-religion a belief and a faith in nothing or in science.

It is what is in a mans heart and where his life experiences have taken him, to decide for himself what means what, to him and what doesn't mean anything.

Debate, question, discuss... Together, respectfully if you really want someone to see your point of view... But right and wrong should never be brought into the equation because neither of you have any proof what so ever!

It shows from this question and most of these answers who is who and what kind of human being you are. Kudos to those of you who have respect!

Answer 1

Their faith isn't strong enough to overcome the doubt created by what another persons explanation of faith is. So they get upset.

Answer 2

There is a spiritual battle going on in this world. The battle ground is in the mind. Belief and faith are the prizes. Life or death is the outcome.

This war is between good and evil. It is a religious war and
does not allow privacy nor consider your personal views
of any importance. You have no choice but to take sides.

The goal of this war is to misdirect or capture your beliefs and thereby deprive you of fklunctional faith. Thus to your question.

Your last sentence is great. Faith you say is "...never right or wrong and doesn't need a logical reason to be valuable." I agree 100 per cent! BUT you said to begin with that "Faith means belief". Now we both know that belief can be right or wrong. The upshot is that faith and belief must be two different things - according to your own statements.

I would suggest that you never use the word belief as a
synonym for faith. Belief is just a mental assent or position which can be right or wrong. Since belief is open to argument it becomes a source of argument. It is very important as a position toward faith!! If you do not believe there is a creator God you are not going to check it out.

Most people think that faith is a set of beliefs, mostly religious or personal. But let me tell you! I have hundreds of Christian beliefs which I think are correct. Yet not one single belief, nor the sum of all my beliefs about the Christian religion, constitutes faith.

Faith is a human sense, the true sixth sense if you will. Like the other senses, but greater than the other senses, it contacts both this physical world and the spiritual world. Faith can no more be right or wrong than the sense of touch, sight, hearing, taste or smell. So you either see or you don't, you hear or you don't, you have faith or you don't. Do you begin to grasp this?

Unfortunately, without proper operation of the sense of faith, the senses of hearing and sight can be critically altered.


The belief that there is a God and the belief that there is no God are nothing but mental positions. If I say there is a God, I assent that there is a God. If I say there is no God, I assent that there is no God. The fact that I believe in God does not prove faith. In fact an athiest may have more faith, just never used it.

What would you say if somebody told you: "I have smell in God." Or "I have taste in God!" I would think they were crazy myself.
But people continue to say, "I have faith in God." To me this is as meaninless as "I have smell in God."

I leave you with a flight analogy which may help. Belief can be considered like a compass - it properly used it can point you in the right direction. Faith however involves almost every other system including the engine, altimeter, radio, wings, rudder, fuel, etc. Faith ends up being the very experience of flight, Do you see how much faith is unlike belief?

Faith is a sense. If you ever experience it you will know that it is not like belief. Faith makes confusion of sound clear, it opens up the minds eye and makes unseen things visible, Faith opens a spiritual system of communication, It can alter nature and direct the course of events. It brings a special kind of hearing, a new kind of sight and access to the understanding of revelation.

In summary, you are in a battle for your mind centered on what you believe. Belief, well chosen, gives you direction -but not faith. Faith is, not a set of ideas or beliefs, but a functional sense / ability of the human soul.

Answer 3

Perhaps its that their faith is so weak and they may go by the notion that there is strength in numbers which I think ends up working against actual faith and becomes a control issue. I agree that faith is an entirely personal thing and go by the saying "Live and let live". On the other hand, If somebody wants to tell me that I am going to hell because I don't believe what they believe, I will try my damnest (since I'm damned in their eyes anyway) to make a fool out of them. My belief allows for this gameplay.

Answer 4

Paul used the art of persuasion to ,as he put it, 'pull from the fire' those that would listen to him. Young Lady, just because someone believes in something doesn't mean that'll save them. The true christian is drafted to help others see the light.

However, each is indeed entitled to their opinion, for God did make us free agents spiritually. To each is own and accounting. So when the arguments begin, that is when the true christian should stop trying to save the misled one from misdirected faith. And maybe try at a better time, or wait for a change of heart. Even apply Acts 13:51, 'shake the dirt off the feet', and let another christian try to appeal to them. Hope this helps.

Answer 5

Because religious people have brought faith into the public discourse by:

1) Suggesting that the Ten commandments of moses are to apply to all citizens (The first three being the most problematic ahnd threatening to nonbelievers.)

2) Demanding that public schools should teach religion to our children or exclude our children and expose them as non-believers.

3) Demanding that laws be changed to match biblical laws even in areas that our own constitution says the government has no authority.

4) Using their majority power to coerce the government into promoting their religious ideology and symbols.

Answer 6

Personally? As much as I know that what I believe is true I think that every human being has the instinctive desire to be validated. So, as much as I know that Jesus Christ is my Savior and that because of His sacrifice I have been cleansed of unrighteousness, if someone comes up to me and tells me that my faith is based on "a book of fairy tales" or that "the Bible is only true because I believe it is" (and I've been told both) then I'm going to argue. Call it a need for validation or maybe, just maybe, it's a desire to see the rest of the world as full of hope and joy as I am. If I were to be brutally honest, I'm not always sure which is the bigger driving force.

Answer 7

I guess it would be hard for someone to prove you wrong when you're talking about a subject so etherial as one's faith, so you can make statement after statement without having to back them up with hard facts.

Faith can also be a melting pot for all the ideas we have about life and death, right and wrong, etc. so it can be very important to us. Some religions even make it a duty to urge others to give up their 'pagen beliefs' and accept the Truth as they see it.

Others see it as a mental clarity that they have that others are just too blind to see. Why does a scientist try and prove that he's right? He has found an answer to one of life's many questions and wishes for others to share this bit of enlightenment with him.

Answer 8

There are no contradictions in the Holy Bible if it is properly understood through the guidance of the Holy Spirit and sincere study.
The devil is trying to destroy mankind in direct opposition to Jesus Christ who died that we through his Crucifixion, burial and Resurrection might be saved.

I would recommend that that you read the King James version of the Bible. It contains the answers to your questions.
God the Father knew you before you we born in eternity past and when you were formed in your mother womb. We are born with a Soul that will live for eternity. We must decide as a free will agent to accept Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior or not.
Our decision determines whether we spend eternity in Heaven or Hell.
I Pray that you make the right decision.
Jesus Christ Loves You.
God Bless you is my prayer.
David

Answer 9

In the sense of an "objective truth" or "absolute truth", there is a right and a wrong.

We've been taught the world has one answer, and we fight to find who has that answer, even though our answer suit us just fine. Even if our answer works, it may still be "wrong", and we run the risk of being outside the herd or being blind to some eventual flaws down the road.

There is no one answer, and there is no one faith. We fight because we believe there is.

Answer 10

Mostly as an ego trip. One likes to be seen as having the right answers. But I approach it slightly differently: if you win an argument, it may stroke your ego, but if you lose one, you may learn something. Scientists argue all the time in the hopes that their pet theory will be proved wrong, so that they can come up with a better one.