How can Christians preach tolerance, but at the same time treat homosexuals as second class citizens?

Question

Seems to be a pretty big contradiction. Does this make Christianity a hypocrtical religion, a religion of hate, or both?

One Christian please give me one good reason why homosexuals should not have the same rights as every other person in the country, including the right to marriage and the benefits that come along with that?

Why does the Bible define marriage? Why do we care how the Bible defines marriage?

Should homosexuals be allowed to be married by a justice of the peace, which is every citizens right? Would the Christains crae then, because it would have nothing to do with religion?

Robin J. Sky - If it is not up to me, why is up to Christains to judge to morality of homosexuality? Has anyone actually heard God say anything against homosexuals. Do Christains believe homosexuality is a choice?

It is funny that people think I am gay, because I am compasisonate enough to not to buy into the culture of hate that Christianity has created. Any decent person would question this culture of hate, regardless of their sexuality.

Answer 1

Homosexuals SHOULD have the same rights as all. I am a Christian. The loudest and most vocal Christians are not the totality of all of us. That would be like saying all Muslims are terrorists....or all Texans are Jackasses.... or all those from Arkansas are Hillbillies. It just ain't true.

Answer 2

I'm Christian and I'm not against gay marriages etc.

Just as it is with muslims, not all christains are the same.


I don't see what's wrong with to people loving each other and therefor want to get married.
I think that the church in this case is just repeating old values that don't really work these days anymore.
You could say that God didn't create us to love someone of the same gender and that it could be wrong because of that, or that a gay couple can't have a baby the natural way, while humans were created to reproduce, and before you have a baby you should get married.
I'm only guessing though, and the last guess doesn't sound logical to me as well.

I do know that homosexuality is not natural. It happens when it's starting to be overcrowded, so that the reproduction will slow down. And the world is starting to get a little full.
You should see that in area's that are reletivaly empty, you won't find much gay people, but in the overpopulated area's in the world, homosexuality excists
And I've heard that homosexuality is a gen flaw that is one can reseve from the mother

Answer 3

Now I am pretty new in my faith, so I cannot quote scripture and all that...but lumping all Christians together and saying we all feel that way towards gay people is no different than lumping all gay people together under one assumption. The truth of the matter is this, the bible does say that homosexuality is wrong, but that certainly is not the only sin listed in the bible. What a lot Christians forget is their own sin. So maybe they (Christian people speaking badly about gay people) don't engage in sex with people of the same sex as they are...sure as hell doesn't mean they are not committing some kind of sin. There is no reason homosexual people should be treated like second class citizens, by Christians or anyone else. And yes, I think gay people should be allowed to marry. While I do not feel they should be getting married in a church, since there is a sin being committed there, I think marriage in the eyes of the government is fine. As for church weddings, I don't think most people should get married in a church since most people do not take marriage seriously. Obviously if our country took marriage seriously there would not be so many bad unions (marriages that end in divorce). So I guess I have failed in answering your question since I cannot give a good answer as to why homosexuals should not be treated equally.

Answer 4

What Christian are you talking about. There is no "Book of rules" that says exactly what a Christian is. Some are vegetarians, some like cats, some live in Mexico, and some are homosexuals.

Marriage laws are part of the country/state you live in. Those laws are made by everyone that takes an interest in their government regardless of the religious beliefs.

If everyone was a homosexual the human species would die. (Some people think that would be a good thing.) Nature, God, or whatever has instilled in humans and every other creature on this planet the desire to reproduce its self. So homosexuals go against what has been part of hundreds of generations of life.

Answer 5

I think that the Christian religion accepts the world with the primary "rules", as God made it. One of the most important "rule" is that the man should live with a woman and a woman should live with a man. As nowhere in the religious documents is not specified that any man lived with any other man I would say that the "rule" I was talking above about is and was actually a "fact". People could say that homosexuality existed since ancient times. True, of course. But my opinion is that if we don´t find any specification or clue regarding the homosexuality in those time we could understand that even it existed, not being mentioned could mean that it was not accepted.
So, anyway as we settled that the world for a religious person (Christian and I imagine not only) is the world which has as basis the man with the woman, I think it´s clear that anything it is preached refers to this kind of world. In the same idea I think that preaching tries to put the things in the same frame of that basically and primary world, instituted by God.

Answer 6

How can Non-Christians bash Christians while preaching that everyone should be respectful and tolerant?

You can't preach civil rights, human rights, and "tolerance" for others, if you're constantly bashing someone for their religion. At least Christians will say, "Being a practicing homosexual is just as bad as being a practicing liar." They're both sins that need to stop happening in a persons life for forgiveness to start, and so they can begin healing.

Liberals, on the other hand, teach "tolerance" of others, while bashing those who are----at least honest---about their intolerance.

God loves the person, but hates the sins they commit. God created the people who inhabited Sodom ------ but he destroyed the city anyway when he could not find even one righteous man.

How much more will God stand from us before he decides it's, once again, time to thin the herd?

Answer 7

We as Christians can't agree to that because it goes against our beliefs. We are still supposed to love everybody regardless and not judge etc. But we cannot agree to things that we don't believe. Marriage is sacred to Christians and according to the Bible is only to be between a man and a woman. If we were to agree with marriage for homosexuals we would be going against the very things the Bible teaches us, which would make us just as sinful.

As Christians we are supposed to judge the sin and not the person.

I'm sorry if this comes across from some as if we think of homosexuals as second class citizens, but you need to understand that we can't back some like that. Personally I do have some gay friends and I respect them like anybody else, they understand my views and I don't bash them all day every day about it. But as much as they are allowed they're opinion, I too am allowed mine. They know that I consider their acts to be sinful and that I pray for God's guidance for them. It's not my job to change them or anyone else. But you can't expect me to go against my beliefs.

Answer 8

All those Old Testament "abomination" claims don't mean the same thing to Jews as to Christians. Neither the Torah nor the rabbinic tradition has much to say concerning lesbian relationships. It is the male's "spilling of seed" anywhere other than in the usual "place" that is seen as a sin. Male masturbation is on the same level.

On the other hand, there are those who believe that the traditional laws against homosexuality originated in a more ritual context, since, FOR THE MOST PART, THE WORD "ABOMINATION" WAS APPLIED MORE IN THE RITUAL SPHERE OF LIFE THAN THE ETHICAL.

The Torah seems to see homosexual relations in a cultic context rather than something more parallel to the interpersonal context of heterosexual relationships.

Although the sin of Sodom and Gemmorah is apparently homosexuality, later Jewish tradition, including the Biblical prophets, makes no reference to homosexuality and see the sins of Sodom and Gemmorah as cruelty and lack of hospitality to the "stranger" - xenophobia, as it were.

Reform Judaism seems to view the traditional prohibitions against homosexuality as mores from a bygone age, mores now replaced with clearer understandings of the reality of gender orientation.

Answer 9

The Catholic position is that homosexual individuals should be treated with the kindness and respect allotted to all of God's creations. They are humans, and they possess the fundamental human dignity just as everyone else.

However, it does not say that their actions should be condoned. The idea that same-sex marriage should be legal implies a social and institutional acceptance of that which many Christians believe to be an act of sin- a perversion of the natural order God created.

Whether this sounds like a "good" reason or not is up to you.

Answer 10

Because they are misguided. As I have said before, "Remove the log in your own eye before attending to the splinter in your brother's eye." Jesus said He came for all. Also, all have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God. Those who rant most about homosexuals should consider their own shortcomings first.

If you ask about marriage from a Christian perspective, marriage is between and man and woman. That's what the Bible says. If you believe marriage is a religious and Christian institution, then it must be bewteen and man and woman and cannot be between two of the same gender.

If you believe marriage is function of government, then define it however you wish.