Why do atheists argue their side if there is no greater purpose?

Question

Doesn't science say that your thoughts are nothing more than biochemical processes, so whatever you think or feel is essentially meaningless, and has no basis in objective reality. If you so strongly defend Darwinism, why can't you apply it to your own lives, and just accept that there is no purpose beyond survival of the species instead of pretending that you're here for some purpose.

Answer 1

Your statement makes so many assumptions, I don't know where to start.

What does greater purpose mean? Greater than what? I'll assume you mean a "higher power", being that of God or whatever it is you believe in, and that that "higher power" has some purpose. That assumes a lot about the "higher power", in question, in the first place, but we'll let that one slide.

Science doesn't say anything, unlike your assumed image of your "higher power", it's just a set of observations. Based on empirical evidence, using our sense. The first rule of science is that it's not right, it's just observations.

Lets say that our thoughts are just biochemical processes. Lets take that farther and say that we're basically just animals, and that our brains are just part of the whole survival darwinist plot. This gives us the ability to reason. With reason, we're able to do what?

I'm not even going to start with the objective reality part, without first knowing what view point you're coming from.


Okay, seriously, I'll address what I think it is you're trying to say, and what you're missing.

First off, I'm agnostic. Athiests assume that there isn't something, when they don't know. How do they know? They don't. It's a slightly better stance than on the other hand, but it's still a bit much. For the record, not all athiests are darwinists, just so you know.


Alright, here's your answer. Because they can.


That's it.



Everyone go home.




Even if life is meaningless, people have the ability to give it a purpose. They do that thing called reason, and define who they are and what they believe in. They decide what their purpose is. They don't need someone or something else to tell them.

I wouldn't agrue my side, as I don't need to, well, except for right now, but refer to what scafool said "and the Agnostics playing with your heads on both sides for simple amusement."

Answer 2

No because you need to make up your mind about what you intent to do about those that are using their religions to control what you are seeing in and on this world day to day-We non believers are what you call realists-we whole heartedly believe that this is it-this is our shot and opportunity to make this world a better place 4 r having been her. The religious types are willing to do damage here because they see the world as a stopping point on the way to a better place be that heaven or at some other sanctuary-never-the-less-I encourage you to LQQK with in yourself and try to see what you can contribute to society as a functioning entity of a beautiful world that we are losing to the minds of followers. I have read all the religious books and they are all forms of control-some have excellent guidelines but what good does it do them if they are based on stories-Try Reading "Atlas Shrugged" by Ayn Rand and see what U can contribute to society as a positive personality and Life Loving Free Man!

Answer 3

I think most atheist were hurt as kids or something. They adopted atheism for illogical reasons and are still trying to convince themselves.

As for Yippy's claim that they are all out to leave this world a better place and us Christians are just out to mess it up; take a look around. How many colleges, hospitals, and charities were started by religious groups. Off the top of my head, Harvard, Princeton, Pepperdine, Biola, Notre Dame, .......

Answer 4

I don't pretend i am here for some purpose, that is what religion does, but like all thinking beings I observe reality and try to make sense of it. And religion has no connection to reality.

Answer 5

Because they do not keep grounded with things like yoga, mountains, oceans, and the many other beauties of nature that are to be enjoyed now, not in some fairy land. Be self aware instead of self conscious The Earth is heaven, there is no need to wait when you are already there.

Answer 6

That's the appeal of religion; sure, it is completely wrong, but people like to think that they will go to heaven when they die for doing practically nothing, or that there is a purpose in life.

Answer 7

And why are you so bent about it, are you afraid that they might be right, are they wearing you down, are you losing faith, are they going to convert you, are they going to win.
You guys are all so funny Religious trying to prove their faiths, Atheists trying to prove their faiths and the Agnostics playing with your heads on both sides for simple amusement

Answer 8

Lets imagine for a moment that god exists, and that you are being tortured. Now imagine that god somehow ceases to exist, but you continue to be tortured. Did your suffering, your need for compassion, stop when god ceased to exist? Did you stop caring about the torture?

Of course not. Compassion and consideration would still matter to you, and of course it matters to all creatures capable of suffering, regardless of the fact that your god is imaginary. Thus, morality exists even though your god does not. Our actions matter to the extent that they affect compassion or suffering. No god is needed for us to act with compassion, and thus no god is needed for our actions to matter and have importance.

Answer 9

Well said :)

I used to be an atheist. Over a period of time however, I grew convinced of the existence of the Christian God, and ultimately committed my life to Christ (e.g., see http://www.godsci.org/gs/chri/testimony/seek.html ).

Cordially,
John

Answer 10

religion is very dangerous.

i think you misunderstand what exactly "purpose" is. i want to live in a good world. religion makes the world worse. lack of religion makes the world better. so i do my part to change people's minds.