Does anyone seriously believe the banana argument for creationism?

Question

The banana---It's perfectly formed to the human hand, has a handy tab for opening, grooves to fit fingers, biodegradable, yada yada.

thanks for the link, idspudnik!

No, by banana, I mean banana. It's not a metaphor.

And of course, thanks to musicgirl for bringing up the whole subject! =0)

go, loistheapostate!

Answer 1

well...if it is made, it has to have a maker. If it's designed, it has to have a designer.

It does fit perfectly in the hand! Well except for childrens hands, and those extremely little hands of all those girls in porn movies (which are the reason those male thingy's seem so huge)

but children can eat smashed bananas, and those porn girls can take care of themselves.

In the proof that the banana offers us, we can very well see the creator. Just like in, for example a cola can. It has a.....



PFFFFFFFF, i can't do this! sorry, i really can't.

i truly believe we should get rid of all the bananas. if we evolved from monkeys, then the only reason we still have monkeys dangling around is that they like bananas so freakin much. No bananas is no monkeys! that would take away the last silly creationist argument.

Answer 2

To ddeadalive, this is the first time in a long time I've been happy to see someone cut-and-paste here. That's truly stunning in its banality. It's like every creationist 'rationale' I've ever seen rolled into one! The funny thing is that at the end of the day, Coke cans and bananas are really all they've got - well, that and the fiery torment of hell. (As a side note - watches, Coke cans, 747s, apple pies -- can't they choose a single 'ID' analogy?).

My two favourite parts:

1. The title "The Banana: The Atheist Nightmare"... That's the funniest thing I've read all day (mind you, I just woke up). I thought that the apple was our nightmare? There is too much delicious irony and comedy here...

2. This part:

'The document continues and states that Charles Darwin stated:

"To suppose that the eye could have been formed by natural selection, seems I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree" Agreed... it does not have the reference recorded so I do not know if this statement is true or false. But let me get to the point at hand.'

That's so brilliant! To hell with academic honesty, let's just work on a smear campaign!

You know, Jesus once said, 'Actually I'm just in it for the wine and whores. This is the best practical joke ever'. Well, I saw that written on a toilet wall somewhere, so I'm not sure if it's true. But it proves my point about Jesus!

Oddly enough, I wonder if Ray Comfort knows that the banana has many of these qualities because of human intervention? Wild bananas lack many of those qualities, and bananas made for human consumption are asexual and must be cultivated by humans. The banana is an argument for intelligent design - by humans!

Answer 3

The banana argument is the dumbest thing I have ever EVER seen. A friend had a good point about this recently...

"I'd LOVE for him to show me how easily accessible coconut juice is without slamming the coconut against a rock 10,000 times. See, I bet the "devil" made THAT one... "

And yes, some people use this argument. I'm not sure if the guy above me is agreeing with it or just pasting the "theory" *cringe*, but I've seen it used seriously by people on Answers before.

Hell, at least it's a break from Pascal's Wager, and quite a bit funnier.

Answer 4

Im not a creationist. Im not an athiest. I dont belive or not belive. What i can say is that nature is not random chance. Why does someone had to have made nature. Nature wants to survive. To live. To carry on. There is a theory that black holes are children of the universe. Who made them. The parent of course. Who is to say there is suposedly intelligent design involved. If you dont work you die. Thats something that humans have helped to skrew up quite a lot. We dont work anymore, but we are still chewing like a cancer. And as for the banana, i could find many things that fit in my hand quite nicely (dirty joke). For some people there is no question about it. I just hope i made those people think..... WHAT IF YOU, ME AND EVERYBODY IS WRONG. Consider this please.

Answer 5

It goes like this:

"Billions of years ago, a big bang produced a large rock. As the rock cooled, sweet brown liquid formed on it's surface. As time passed, aluminum formed itself into a can, a lid, and a tab. Millions of years later, red and white paint fell from the sky and formed itself into the words "Coca Cola... 12 fluid ounces."

Of course my theory is an insult to your intellect, because you know that if the Coca Cola can is made, there must be a maker. If it is designed, there must be a designer. The alternative, that it happened by chance or accident is to move from the intellectual free zone.



Here is another:

"The Banana: The Atheist Nightmare"

Note that the banana...

1. is shaped for the human hand.

2. has a non-slip surface.

3. Has outward indicators of it's inward contents. Green - too early, yellow - just right, black - too late.

4. Has a tab for removal of it's wrapper.

5. Is perforated on wrapper.

6. Has a bio-degradable wrapper.

7. Is shaped for the human mouth.

8. Has a point at the top for ease of entry.

9. Is pleasing to the taste buds.

10. Is curved towards the face to make the eating process easy.

To write that the banana happened by accident is even more unintelligent than to write that no one designed the Coca Cola can.

Test 1.

The person who thinks the Coca Cola can has no designer is:

A. Intelligent

B. A fool

C. Has an ulterior motive for denying the obvious

Now the document that I am referring from states that the eye has 40,000,000 nerve endings and focuses it's muscles approximately 100,000 times a day. and that the eye has a retina that contains approximately 137,000,000 light sensitive cells.

The document continues and states that Charles Darwin stated:

"To suppose that the eye could have been formed by natural selection, seems I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree" Agreed... it does not have the reference recorded so I do not know if this statement is true or false. But let me get to the point at hand.

If man can not create the human eye then how can anyone in their right mind believe that it was created by chance? In fact... man can't create anything from nothing... we just do not know how to do it. We can re-create, reform, develop... but we can not create one grain of sand from nothing. Yet the human eye... is a mere tiny part of the most sophisticated part of creation - the human body.

Again... another statement which I would have to research and verify if this person actually made this comment:

"George Gallup; "If I could prove God statistically; take the human body alone; the chance that all the functions of the individual would just happen, is a statistical monstrosity."

Now this statement concerning Albert Einstein. This is confusing... why would this man contradict himself? If he stated this... then every other statement that has been quoted at this forum is invalid because the man appears to be speaking from both sides of his mouth. In this statement Einstein is quoted to have said:

"Everyone who is seriously interested in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the universe - a spirit vastly superior to man, and one in the face of our modest powers must feel humble."

Test 2:

1. Do you know any building that did not have a builder? Yes? No?

2. Do you know any painting that did not have a painter? Yes? No?

3. Do you know any car that did not have a maker? Yes? No?

If you answered "Yes" to any of those statements... please give details:______________________...



Third analogy:

Could I convince you that I dropped 50 oranges onto the ground and then by chance fell into ten rows of five oranges? Logically, anyone with an intelligent mind might conclude that someone put them there. The odds that ten oranges would fall into a straight line is mind boggling. Let alone ten rows of five.

Test 3

Yes or No 1. From the atom to the universe is there order?

Yes or No 2. Did it happen by accident or must there been an intelligent mind?

3. What are the odds of 50 oranges falling by chance into ten rows of five oranges? ______________________________...

To declare that there is no God is to make an absolute statement. And for an absolute statement to be true; one must have absolute knowledge. Here is another such statement: "There is no gold in China."

Test 4 What would I need to have for that statement to be true?

A. No knowledge of China?

B. Partial knowledge of China?

C. Absolute knowledge of China?

"C" is the correct answer. In order for the statement to be true, I must know that there is no gold in China.

Likewise; to state that there is no God and to be correct then you are stating that you are omniscient. You must have absolutely certain knowledge that there isn't one.

Let's say that a circle contains all the knowledge of the universe. And let's say that you have an incredible understanding of one percent of all that knowledge. Is it possible that the knowledge you haven't yet come across, that there might be ample evidence to prove that God does indeed exist?

If you are reasonable, you would have to admit, "Having the limited knowledge I have at present, I believe that there is no God." In other words, you don't know if God exists, so you are not an atheist. You are an "agnostic." You are like a person that looks at a building and doesn't seem to know if there is a builder.

Test 5 The man who sees a building and doesn't know if there is a builder is:

A. Intelligent

B. A fool

C. Has an ulterior motive

In summary: There are plenty of things that we have faith in that we do not fully understand. Most of us do not have a complete understanding that when you turned your computer on as to why it worked. You took a step of faith that turning it on... that somehow that it would work. You accept the unseen electrical waves that appear right in front of your eyes when you type your comments here. We do not see the reason for why the messages appear... because the powers that be are invisible to the naked eye. For them to be manifest, we need a monitor... so we can enjoy the experience of this forum.

God is not flesh and blood; He is an eternal Spirit. Immortal and invisible... like the computer waves. He can can not be experienced unless the monitor is turned on. One should approach the Bible in the same way as the monitor. If it works, enjoy it and if it doesn't, forget it.

Or do you have an ulterior motive? Could it be that the "atheist" can't find God... as a thief can't find the policeman? Could it be that your logic is clouding your good judgment?"

Answer 6

Hahaha, not a chance. The "Banana Argument" was created by some Christian who was trying to prove that there is a higher diety, and that he is correct about his religion. It's not true in the least, because if you threw an artichoke at him and told him to explain that, he most likely wouldn't able to explain that. Unless he can come up with an explaination for most everything, his theory is useless, just coincidental.

Answer 7

Check out the video with Kirk Cameron and his friend trying to prove the creation theory with a banana. Besides being totally hilarious and absurd, I find this video and his handling of that banana a little bit vulgar. He seems to enjoy it. What do you think?

Answer 8

Ray Comfort is a moron and so is anyone who believes him. He doesn't even know that the bananas in the stores have been genetically altered BY HUMANS through selective breeding to make them larger and sweeter than the wild bananas from which they were bred. So, if they are perfectly designed for our consumption, then it is because WE, not God, have made them that way.

Answer 9

No, what an idiotic argument. Christians believe the banana argument but refuse to accept the actual evidence of (micro)evolution.

Answer 10

Yes.
I mean, a banana is not the sum reason why I believe in creationism, that would be ridiculous. But creation itself declares God's glory and existence, simply if we open our eyes to the obvious. And a banana is one of the myriad examples of God's creative genius.