If evolution isnt happening then....?

Question

If you infected yourself with the TB virus and use the vaccine from the 1950's you would die becuase the virus has mutated and evolved... Why is out appendix at the all time low in size and its going to gradually disappear...... Why are we as mammals getting less and less hair on us...... Why is our pinkey toes at the all time smallest in lengths ..... Is evolution not happening????? I would like some Catholics oppinions also.

People obviously do not know much about this.... Please dont comment this if your going to say.. why don't we look different over the past centuries..... Evolution occurs over thousands if not millions of years


and for you Christians.... stop beating around the bush.... makes me mad...

Answer 1

To the person who said there toe hadn't shrunk please attempt to grasp a basic knowledge of evolution before answering these questions. These changes occur over thousands of years.
To answer the question in my country this is the only theory taught to us unless you attend special religious classes.
Evolution is real, it's nothing to be afraid of. There is no alternative THEORY, only outdated beliefs.
Aborigines believe a giant frog burped out all of the earth, we don't believe that anymore.

Right I feel I have to edit this answer because of some of the absolute falsehoods written below.
First evolution is usually a result of adaption to the environment.
Yes it's the same species and when the subject has children these traits may dissappear, but if they don't eventually they will form a new species in hundreds of thousands of years.

Ok so someone said evolution is for the best, yes in the long run the species best suited to the environment will survive. That doesn't mean there weren't another 1000 mutations that weren't as good.

Someone said a virus doesn't count? Well I got news for you!
The lifecycles of a virus are much shorter that our own and thus can evolve more quickly. Another example of this is the costant mutation of the malaria virus.
We are changing it's environment so that it does not adapt to the vaccine's we create it will not survive. Those with altered make up that are produced (and the likelihood is small but has happened numerous times) and can survive will survive. Those that can't won't. So what we have is an altered species that can now fight against vaccines. This process continues until new species are formed.

I'm not gonna even mention the callus'

Good news for us all is that our brains are getting larger to cope with our growing mental activities, so one day people may evolve beyond even considering creation theory.

Answer 2

The theory of evolution does not teach that organisms mutate or change. The theory says that one species becomes a completely different and new species. These mutations you mentioned only show that changes occur within a species. You have not shown any species that has mutated into another species. In fact, neither has science.

For evolution to occur, as the theory is presented, there must be a change in DNA, not just lost or additional DNA which creates a member of the same species that is LESS suited for "survival". Downs syndrome is an example of this. There is extra DNA but it forms an organism with less survivability. Evolution teaches that these changes are beneficial.

My next question would be, "Where is the evidence for the things you have mentioned?" How do we KNOW that the appendix of present-day man is smaller than the appendix of man 1000 years ago? Who has found one preserved perfectly? I have yet to hear of a 1000-year-old person walking into a hospital and having his appendix removed for study and comparison.

Yes, it is true that the TB virus has mutated and a vaccine from 1950 will likely be ineffective today. But, it is still the TB virus. It has not become an alligator.

Answer 3

First, if you want a Catholic opinion, I am a Catholic. The Catholic Church has no problem with evolution as a scientific theory about how things have developed as long as God is recognized as the Creator.
But the changes you describe are not evolution, but adaptations, maybe even mutations, but nothing has ever been recorded as or found as moving from one species and becoming another. If, and that is only if, the appendix were to disappear, human beings would still be human but without an appendix. That is not evolution since the creature remains the same.
Evolution would be if dogs developed self-consciousness. If you came home one day and you see your dog sitting in the chair, drink on the table and he's reading the newspaper. Then he has become something different than just a dog. But if you come home and he has learned to open the cupboard where the treats are, that is learning, not evolution.

Answer 4

You cant talk evolution with most religious people because they don't understand the concept of it happening over thousands of years. Also i see a lot of people saying that it is the changing of one species into another. Evolution is not linear either, some species are replaced by ones that evolve and are better than them, some sprout of into two different species, and sometimes a species will evolve from another species while both still remain in coexistence. People say there is no evidence of evolution in recent history, i have seen mentioned on this page that peoples pinky toes haven't gotten smaller etc. What the hell are you people morons? Do you not look at the whole theory, or the fact that these changes are said to occur over thousands of year? That's why it took life so long to evolve into what it is today.
Do you people only watch the trailers to movies and say the plot made no sense?

Also to that other guy, yes we can say that humans dont have a soul, and we are not vastly different from the rest of the animals living on earth.

Answer 5

The finches that was linked by cfluehr is better. However these do not prove evolution. Sorry.

All these things prove is that our bodies can physically adapt to situations. This is something I have always woundered about, however it does not prove evolution.

See the evolution therory is that we evolved from something. They evolved from something all the way back till there was only a single creature. kind of like a family tree. One parent had 2 children there children had 2 children ect. ect. ect. until there was 4 billion people.

The truth is evolution therory states that we came from a different creature. In other words we evolved from one creature over time to another. All these things have shown is althogh they can physically adapt they are still the same animal.

However I do believe that these finches could solve this debate once and for all. I mean they should have some originals in a zoo or something. So, if you watch these side by side comparison it could prove or disprove evolution. If in a hundred years or so they keep on adapting until they are a totally differnet creature while the others remain the same this would prove evolution. No, I guess no matter how it works out they could not disprove it.

again thank you for educating me on this.

Answer 6

Very often people say things like 'Well why couldn't God create things to evolve?'. This people have quite literally missed the point completely. Evolution is how you explain the world and everything in it by a naturalistic explanation, where all we see is all we get. So if God exists the whole theory of macro-evolution is useless. Why would God want to subject the whole of existence to millions of years of death and destruction to create new organisms. If the naturalistic explanations are inadequate for what science observes then we must turn to a supernaturalistic explanation. Two atheists, Sir Fred Hoyle and Professor Chandra Wickramasinghe, calculated the probability of life forming on earth by chance in 5 billion years. Their answer? 1 chance in 10^40000 (thats a 1 with 40000 zeroes after it) which is effectively zero. So which requires more faith? To believe that life originated by chance or to believe that an all power, all knowing and all good God created it.
Also when you think about natural selection wouldn't that process be limiting the ammount of genetic information there was to 'choose' from and therefore making us all more conformed? There is no NEW genetic information being entered into our systems. Mutations are generally for the worse.
Think about it!

Answer 7

I'm Catholic. Evolution has many good theories behind it. However, it is not rock-solid. You do not seem to have a higher level grasp on this field. Many of the points you suggest definatively confirm your conclusions are at best unrelated and at the very worst a severe distortion of Evolution, which scientists are trying to stop the lay public from promoting.

I don't care if you believe in Evolution, but you can't tell me that a person does not have a soul, which makes them infinitely different than the rest of life in the universe. God gave humans souls and Evolution does not have any way in which to describe the existence of souls.

p.s. You should check your sources on the TB vaccine. It doesn't make your argument look very good.

Answer 8

It is not considered evolution, it is more so adaptation. We adapt to our environments over time. If we lived under water for years, we would have then needed webbed hands and gills to navigate and survive. This trait would be passed down through our offspring.

For example: Humans aren't born with calloused feet or thickened skin on the soles of their feet, but if the humans are barefoot for most of their lives walking, hunting or whatever, the feet begin to compensate for the need, and everyone would have thick soles. We have advanced as humans,and wear shoes. Therefore our soles are more soft because we've protected them. If man had never invented shoes to protect the feet, nature would have adapted to compensate so that we would no longer need shoes.
A virus is a lower life form than that of a human and therefore can evolve or change over time.
Any appendage that isn't being utilized, will eventually whither and go away. To test that, stop using your legs. Your legs will adapt, and not change, they will adapt to non use. Adaptation is due to changes in environment and use. Evolution is evolving as in a continuous cycle,for the better. i.e.stronger, faster, etc...
We have less and less hair because it is not needed now. We adapt to our environment. As far as pinkey toes, it would depend on the use of the person. Our feet and toes will adapt to the environment they are in. Look at people with hammer toes and corns. Those people keep their feet in a cramped environment. People that keep their feet protected don't have corns or hammer toes, and their pinkey toes should not be as small.
I'm not saying evolution is not happening, the world and lower life forms evolve.
Human beings adapt to the changes in their environment.

Answer 9

Evolution is not happening. Actually, the subtle changes we are indeed seeing have more to do with changes over centuries of time in the air, water and total environment. It's physical adaptability, NOT evolution. Also, think about the food we are eating in the past decades. Perhaps, the genetically altered varieties are altering us as well. But of course, that's theoretical Maybe. Speaking of food...for thought: IF evolution is a happening thing, why then since the many centuries past do we not now look dramatically different at this point in time? (oh, about the pinkie toes - it's the tight and crazy shoe styles we wear)

Answer 10

I haven't noticed any life form to drasticaly change shape or merge from one species to another. You can go back hundreds of years, and man is still man and birds are still birds. Monkeys are still monkeys. If we came from the muck as lizards, shouldn't new life forms continue to follow the same path, even today? I haven't seen any new life forms last I looked.

For that reason alone, I think evolution is simply theory and not fact. By now, we should have mutated into some other form, and new life forms should already have been born. I just don't see that happening.