Is the inability of creationists to adapt to the changing scientific environment evidence against evolution?

Question

Or does it just demonstrate that they have become a separate species?

omg (please note irony) I hooked a jehovah's witness... no thanks, i've already got the latest issue of watchtower. i subscribe you know.

to d b: Einstein was not in ANY way a creationist.

Quote:
"To inquire after the meaning or object of one's own existence or of creation generally has always seemed to me absurd from an objective point of view," The World as I See It, 1949

Please get your facts straight.

Answer 1

Great satire! I love it.

It indicates that, if evolution is correct, they will be selected out of the gene pool. Unfortunately, since there are so damned many of these people, that is unlikely to happen. They control most of the gene pool. We, the Evolutionists, must adapt to our environment and learn to deal with this problem.

But anyway, there are always species who can't adapt to their environment. Take the passenger pigeon for example. They would all just sit around and watch other passenger pigeons get shot.

Answer 2

That is a very interesting topic. My compliments.

I think the way the human race's general reaction to signifigant changes, personal or environmental is initial resistance because of a comfort level. A good book that explains this human socialogical phenomenon is listed in my sources.

A seperate species? That is interesting. How has human evollution been evolving since we went and civalized ourselves? It seems in the short time that humans have been on the earth (maybe just no records before then) they have evolved into a diverse group able to adapt physically to the needs of thier environment. Now, since we can evolve physically, and it was done in a relivaly short point in life with most dying before 30, people are now breeding at a much later date. If there is inherant genetic knowledge for the sake of survival that is passed down through DNA then the percentage of evollutionary 'upgrades' would be greater when breading at a later age. Since people can breed into the 60's now, I wonder if the rate of evellutionary advances is increasing. Could we be immune to cancer in 3 generations? It seems that each generation is getting smarter. Is our ability to absorb and utilize inforation increasing at an exponential rate, or have we always had this ability? What I know today is diverse and ever expanding. What I would have known 300 years ago was how to cast a fish net, sail a boat, and raid a village. Doesn't seem like my mind would need to be that sharp, but could it have been?

I think it is possible that some illnesses or physical deformaties or mental illnesses could actually be miscatogorized. I think some of the things out there should be re-examined to see if theis is evollution gone haywire. Maybe all it takes is replacing the first RNA strand in the first cell after conception. Before the first osmosis.
Freeze, fix, re-impregnate. They have proven that this can be accomplished successfully. A cure for cancer or the slowdown of evollution?

Ultimately, we create evollution. So to say there is evollution without a creator is just, well, curious.

Answer 3

Well, Im an engineer, I hang out with Generals, and I was the top of my aviation class. I am also creationist, which only means that I believe that the universe was created by supreme infinite intelligence, and Im trying to figure out how that world works. So far, I ve been more successful than any atheist I know. I actually have won awards for scientific and enviromental achievments. Thats really stupid huh? a person who grew up in the getto who becomes an engineer, who wins awards in something he wasnt even schooled for.
Matbe you should look back in history a little. maybe someone with a little common sense would notice that einstein, von braun, rommel, all the appollo astronauts, openheimer (made the A and H bombs , nuclear power, and the worlds best scientific trust) were all creationists.

Answer 4

Actually, when "scientists" began dabbling in theories involving an old age for the universe, Christians tried to "adapt" by inventing numerous theological viewpoints that would reconcile what was assumed to be "science" with the Bible.

It wasn't until very recently that true science has caught up with the Bible, and evolution is now inadequate as a theory to explain (from an informed point of view) just how the complex genetic code came into existence or how the differences between the numerous complex life forms came to be.

From a purely scientific perspective, the creation model as found in the Bible fits the facts as they are now understood far better than the theory-tale of evolution.

After all, I have never seen a rock "spring to life". Have you?
(or perhaps it has to become "soup" first?)

Answer 5

Perfect question , congratulations!

To define them as a separate species goes too far, but it is an apt exaggeration,
because it is obvious to the rest of us, that they are being "left behind" (pun intended).

Culture has been the primary evolutionary tool in shaping humanity in the last 150,000 years. All social, tribal and political systems that refuse to adapt to new memes are in extreme risk of self termination. That means the people in those systems die out.

In this case it is the misunderstood interpretation of methods to overcome the inadequacies of these out dated memes, (by the cult leadership, not the common flock) that may be the very means of their own mass extinction. Of course they may take massive numbers of those who have nothing to do with the cult, with them on their way off of the lemming cliff.

The anachronism they are promoting, hand in hand with their fraudulent pseudo-sciences, to keep their numbers growing by every means at their disposal, may allow them to be the primary casualty in the very cultural disaster they are deceived into trying to prevent. IE over population- un-restrained global warming- environmental resource collapse- global famine- remaining resource centralizing- worsened famine- immune system degradation- disease- and systemic collective mass die offs.

Those remaining groups with a disease-free means of cannibalizing may be the sole survivors of the next black plague, if there are any survivors, at all.

Of course if the meteors come, or the radiation belts collapse due to the Earths polar magnetism shift, or if some of these same types of maniacal societies are able to bring about a nuclear winter, during this second neolithic age, that pretty much cinches the end of the age of man.

On the other hand, if extreme subservience to these anti-Earth cult "ideals" can be squelched, and science removed from the shadows it has been forced to retreat into, and allowed to flourish, along with faith systems that are based on Earth bio-diversity-systems preservation, then when any / all of the above disasters occur, the evolved culture system of man, may have a good chance of prevailing.

Answer 6

There is one tough question out there about apes. If apes evolved into humans, why are there still apes? I think there is a parallel here in that some apes did not evolve, and were sort of 'left behind' ( pun intended )
For some reason which I am still awaiting an answer, there appears to be many humans who cannot get their knuckles off the ground.
What I believe, but am not sure of, is that there is some sort of inner urge to evolve in us humans, and if we ignore it, and cling to a world that is all "creature comfort" so to speak, then we will doom ourselves to be apes when others have advanced

Answer 7

As Pancakes, Linda C, and db clearly demonstrate, they are merely a few links back on the chain...

Other "theories" that science "treats as fact":

Gravity
Humans need air to survive
The Sun warms the Earth
Smoking increases the liklihood of cancer
Heavier than air flight
The electron (try to make a TV or computer without one of these theoretical constructs)


All "just theories"...

The argument, thus, is over the definition of the word "theory."

In science, a "theory" is assumed to be true until it is controverted by empirical evidence.

In neo-conservative creationism, a "theory" doesn't become fact until it's incontrovertable, which is obviously impossible by the scientific definition of "theory."

Nice, circular logic for the sophists who deny evolution...

Answer 8

Actually, Jehovah's Witnesses no longer offer subscriptions to their magazines, except to the blind, prisoners, and very isolated persons. Instead, Witnesses hand-deliver their literature in person!

Of course, many of their brochures are available at the official website of Jehovah's Witnesses:
http://www.watchtower.org/library/jt/index.htm
http://www.watchtower.org

Answer 9

Is it possible for Science and Religion to be reconciled?

Are you interested in finding out, or have you closed your mind and already made a decision?
http://www.watchtower.org/library/g/2002/6/8/article_01.htm

Answer 10

Some things have adapted or evolved if you will and some things haven't. Science proves that God with His infinite wisdom created all.